Is it good to weift lifting before breakfast?

KseRz

Says who? Most recent research says it has an affect. For optimal growth/recovery there should be some form of nutrition before and if not before then it's even more important to have it soon after. Not essential but for optimum results, and who wouldn't want optimal results?!

I would say only if you are getting on stage or are some form of extreme athlete.

For most average Joes......
You will be fine...
Just consume BCAA's to protect your muscles.

Why BCAAs, might as well have a whey shake if you're going to have anything at all.

"Taking protein (specifically BCAAs) alone before a workout is extremely beneficial during a low-carb diet. The consumption of pre-workout BCAAs, especially when glycogen levels are low (as they are during a low-carb diet), leads to an increase in fat oxidation (fat burning) during high-intensity exercise like interval training or metabolic resistance training."

"Provided that you're getting adequate dietary protein throughout the day, I recommend BCAAs pre-workout. Their free form offers much faster absorption and uptake, which means your blood amino levels will be high when you hit the training floor."

-- Mike Roussell, Ph.D.

Then again, playing Devil's Advocate on this post, if you are getting adequate protein throughout the day, then it doesnt matter.

SideSteel

Says who? Most recent research says it has an affect. For optimal growth/recovery there should be some form of nutrition before and if not before then it's even more important to have it soon after. Not essential but for optimum results, and who wouldn't want optimal results?!

I would say only if you are getting on stage or are some form of extreme athlete.

For most average Joes......
You will be fine...
Just consume BCAA's to protect your muscles.

Why BCAAs, might as well have a whey shake if you're going to have anything at all.

"Taking protein (specifically BCAAs) alone before a workout is extremely beneficial during a low-carb diet. The consumption of pre-workout BCAAs, especially when glycogen levels are low (as they are during a low-carb diet), leads to an increase in fat oxidation (fat burning) during high-intensity exercise like interval training or metabolic resistance training."

"Provided that you're getting adequate dietary protein throughout the day, I recommend BCAAs pre-workout. Their free form offers much faster absorption and uptake, which means your blood amino levels will be high when you hit the training floor."

-- Mike Roussell, Ph.D.

Your blood amino acid levels would also be high when you hit the training floor if you took whey protein as the previous poster stated.

JoRocka

Says who? Most recent research says it has an affect. For optimal growth/recovery there should be some form of nutrition before and if not before then it's even more important to have it soon after. Not essential but for optimum results, and who wouldn't want optimal results?!

I would say only if you are getting on stage or are some form of extreme athlete.

For most average Joes......
You will be fine...
Just consume BCAA's to protect your muscles.

Why BCAAs, might as well have a whey shake if you're going to have anything at all.

"Taking protein (specifically BCAAs) alone before a workout is extremely beneficial during a low-carb diet. The consumption of pre-workout BCAAs, especially when glycogen levels are low (as they are during a low-carb diet), leads to an increase in fat oxidation (fat burning) during high-intensity exercise like interval training or metabolic resistance training."

"Provided that you're getting adequate dietary protein throughout the day, I recommend BCAAs pre-workout. Their free form offers much faster absorption and uptake, which means your blood amino levels will be high when you hit the training floor."

-- Mike Roussell, Ph.D.

Then again, playing Devil's Advocate on this post, if you are getting adequate protein throughout the day, then it doesnt matter.

amd lulz on the BCAA's and low carb.

or you could just get some sweet potatoes and stop taking extra sups.

But that's just my preference.


As for working fasted or not- for the average person it's more important to do what fits in your schedule and makes your body happy.

For the first 5-7 days of working out fasted- I'll get nauseous with any sort of high intensity. Lifting i'm moderate at- but I prefer t have a snack 45 minutes in advance of my workouts. I just feel like I have a better lift.- but once I get used to working out fasted- I'm fine with it.

This is definitely one of those "do what works for you" unless you're at the top end of your lifting or competing.

_lyndseybrooke_

I lift before breakfast - at 5:15AM. I found I was getting nauseous during my workouts, so I now eat a Quest bar before I work out. Afterward, I have my protein shake and then, about an hour later, I eat my breakfast (usually oatmeal). On lifting days, I eat about 700 calories before lunch.

Capt_Apollo

Says who? Most recent research says it has an affect. For optimal growth/recovery there should be some form of nutrition before and if not before then it's even more important to have it soon after. Not essential but for optimum results, and who wouldn't want optimal results?!

99% of people don't actually need optimum results - they just need to eat, train and rest properly when it suits them and where it fits into their daily life. There's too much stress about trying to hit the last couple of percent when most people just need to make sure they get the basics right. Don't sweat the small stuff.

^^ That.

Agreed but we're talking about simply swigging a whey shake before training, hardly difficult and it helps so just do it, much easier and carries benefit, to all.

dude, you beach body coach is wrong. there is no benefit in eating directly before a work out... and different side of the same coin, there is no drawback to eating before a work out.

if a person finds themselves nauseas during an early work out, then they would probably benefit from eating something. if they can power through it, then there is no reason to eat before a work out.

it's all a matter of personal preference.

SideSteel

Says who? Most recent research says it has an affect. For optimal growth/recovery there should be some form of nutrition before and if not before then it's even more important to have it soon after. Not essential but for optimum results, and who wouldn't want optimal results?!

99% of people don't actually need optimum results - they just need to eat, train and rest properly when it suits them and where it fits into their daily life. There's too much stress about trying to hit the last couple of percent when most people just need to make sure they get the basics right. Don't sweat the small stuff.

^^ That.

Agreed but we're talking about simply swigging a whey shake before training, hardly difficult and it helps so just do it, much easier and carries benefit, to all.

Not necessarily.

For example if someone is under the impression that they must drink that whey protein after a workout and this causes them to purchase whey protein when they would have just gone home and eaten a mixed meal within a few hours of training then I'd argue that it's an important distinction to make.

Even something as simple as "drink post workout whey protein" can effect adherence on some level.

If it were monumentally important I'd consider it valid blanket advice, but it's marginally important and only in certain contexts.

ahamm002

The eating thing after a workout is a myth. I used to IF and workout at 4am and not eat until noon. Yes, you can do it. It's quite easy.

Actually it's not a myth. Even Alan Aragon had to change his stance on that: http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/5

Basically there is a pretty long "anabolic window." You usually don't have to worry about it as long as you're eating plenty of protein throughout the day, but you should worry about it if you're doing IF. How much the "anabolic window" actually matters to the average person doing resistance training is certainly up for debate. But given how much effort we put in at the gym, why hinder yourself when protein shakes are so easy?

SideSteel

The eating thing after a workout is a myth. I used to IF and workout at 4am and not eat until noon. Yes, you can do it. It's quite easy.

Actually it's not a myth. Even Alan Aragon had to change his stance on that: http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/5

Basically there is a pretty long "anabolic window." You usually don't have to worry about it as long as you're eating plenty of protein throughout the day, but you should worry about it if you're doing IF. How much the "anabolic window" actually matters to the average person doing resistance training is certainly up for debate. But given how much effort we put in at the gym, why hinder yourself when protein shakes are so easy?

I don't believe Alan changed his stance on this. At least I've never recalled him saying that peri-workout nutrition is irrelevant. He's discussed how it pales in comparison to total nutrient intake, and everyone else who reads his material then made that grey area into a black and white by saying "it's irrelevant".

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mustgetmuscles1

Pretty awesome chart on nutrient timing.

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/nutrient-timing-table_r4-01.png

I agree with the others that say it wont make a significant difference when you work out or when you eat as long as it does not effect your workout quality.

My workouts are much better if I eat about an hour before but some people like to lift fasted. Just try it and see what works for you.

AlysonG2

I never eat before lifting since I work out at 5am. Sometimes I wonder if I'd see better gains if I did though.

in_the_stars

quite right , sidesteel.

rodduz

Says who? Most recent research says it has an affect. For optimal growth/recovery there should be some form of nutrition before and if not before then it's even more important to have it soon after. Not essential but for optimum results, and who wouldn't want optimal results?!

99% of people don't actually need optimum results - they just need to eat, train and rest properly when it suits them and where it fits into their daily life. There's too much stress about trying to hit the last couple of percent when most people just need to make sure they get the basics right. Don't sweat the small stuff.

^^ That.

Agreed but we're talking about simply swigging a whey shake before training, hardly difficult and it helps so just do it, much easier and carries benefit, to all.

dude, you beach body coach is wrong. there is no benefit in eating directly before a work out... and different side of the same coin, there is no drawback to eating before a work out.

if a person finds themselves nauseas during an early work out, then they would probably benefit from eating something. if they can power through it, then there is no reason to eat before a work out.

it's all a matter of personal preference.

Tell that to Alan Aragon and co. the most versed people out there on nutrition, I think you'll find they disagree with your opinion, which is based on nothing.

The second link down on Alan Aragons page speaks about it, I've quoted this link already but people ignore it. I'm pretty sure if Alan puts it on his site then he believes it to be correct:

http://alanaragon.com/articles but if people can't be bothered to read it, I'll summarise: Nutrient timing doesn't matter UNLESS you train fasted, then it does.

Capt_Apollo

Says who? Most recent research says it has an affect. For optimal growth/recovery there should be some form of nutrition before and if not before then it's even more important to have it soon after. Not essential but for optimum results, and who wouldn't want optimal results?!

99% of people don't actually need optimum results - they just need to eat, train and rest properly when it suits them and where it fits into their daily life. There's too much stress about trying to hit the last couple of percent when most people just need to make sure they get the basics right. Don't sweat the small stuff.

^^ That.

Agreed but we're talking about simply swigging a whey shake before training, hardly difficult and it helps so just do it, much easier and carries benefit, to all.

dude, you beach body coach is wrong. there is no benefit in eating directly before a work out... and different side of the same coin, there is no drawback to eating before a work out.

if a person finds themselves nauseas during an early work out, then they would probably benefit from eating something. if they can power through it, then there is no reason to eat before a work out.

it's all a matter of personal preference.

Tell that to Alan Aragon and co. the most versed people out there on nutrition, I think you'll find they disagree with your opinion, which is based on nothing.

The second link down on Alan Aragons page speaks about it, I've quoted this link already but people ignore it. I'm pretty sure if Alan puts it on his site then he believes it to be correct:

http://alanaragon.com/articles but if people can't be bothered to read it, I'll summarise: Nutrient timing doesn't matter UNLESS you train fasted, then it does.

hey man, do what works for you.

shmerek

I workout every morning at 6 am, I might have a banana before I go but nothing more. One morning I made the mistake of having a shake before I started and during my squats it took all my effort not to spew, felt like **** for the rest of the workout as well. Lesson learned.