This study is going to change how I eat!

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  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    Dr. Oz’s Miraculous Medical Advice

    Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.


    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/01/can_you_trust_dr_oz_his_medical_advice_often_conflicts_with_the_best_science.single.html
  • RushBabe_214
    RushBabe_214 Posts: 115
    I was watching Dr. Oz today

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    LOL! Exactly my reaction!
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member
    In all fairness, the OP did not say this study came from Dr. Oz, only that she found it while searching for something else that she saw on Dr. Oz. For all we know, the study is completely unrelated to the anecdote which caused the OP to stumble upon it.

    Yeah post and study don't seem to have a lot to do with Dr Oz really. I can't comment on the study since I can't get access to the full PDF< but I know Alan Aragon talked about this very study in one of his AARRs

    Potential Limitations he mentions...

    short time span (12 weeks)
    no supervision or provision of dietary intake (food was self-chosen & self-reported)
    results may only apply to obese women with metabolic syndrome
    no formal exercise program
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    How do you know if you have metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance? Does being significantly overweight or obese alone give any indication? I'm genuinely curious.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    Dr Oz is a quack, but I tend to eat that way. I found that I am less hungry when I do
  • Alissakae
    Alissakae Posts: 317 Member
    That’s great, but dinner is when my husband and I come together to laugh, open a bottle of wine, get the grill going and talk about our day. The sun is setting, the neighborhood is buzzing, and the dog gets some play time while dinner’s in the works. I love choosing recipes, planning meals, and trying out new cooking techniques. Maybe we’ll throw some oysters on the grill. Maybe I’ll whip up a batch of guacamole while we’re waiting for the flank steak to cook. Maybe I’ll experiment with a new cocktail. All doable with a 700-900 calorie spending limit, but 200? (Oh, but do get those 700 calories in at the suckiest part of the day, when you’re bleary-eyed and rushing out the door to go to work.)
    Just No. Sorry Dr. Oz. I doubt your credibility to begin with, but putting that aside, abiding by this study sounds about as joyless and miserable as having a granola bar for dinner. Forever. Which is pretty much the idea.

    THIS
  • hearthwood
    hearthwood Posts: 794 Member
    It's true one should eat less at dinner, simply because they don't have as much time to burn it off before they go to bed.

    How realistic to do that depends on your family circumstances. The evening is the time when most families sit down together for dinner.

    I'll tell you all these references to Dr. Oz, and what new weight loss snake oil that he promotes on his programs is getting a little annoying.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    We have a poster who was so gungho about not eating breakfast that I tried it. It helps me not to eat breakfast. I am less hungry and have more room for calories throughout the day when I want and need them. I can't do the full IF that he recommends because of my work schedule, but I do come close, and delaying breakfast just by several hours has really been helpful.
  • leodru
    leodru Posts: 321 Member
    i starve with snacks at 200 calories let alone for my meal! Holy moly. I'm glad I go to the gym or i'd never survive. I do 3@500, 3@200 calories and i still struggle to be under!
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Dr. Oz blah blah blah blah. Translation: give me your money for worthless stuff that does nothing.
  • FoxyLifter
    FoxyLifter Posts: 965 Member
    It's true one should eat less at dinner, simply because they don't have as much time to burn it off before they go to bed.

    False. I've been burning calories all day. I even burn calories when I sleep. And so do you. If I go to bed feeling hungry, I'm likely to either overeat at breakfast or suck at the gym. Meal timing is personal preference.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    It's true one should eat less at dinner, simply because they don't have as much time to burn it off before they go to bed.

    How realistic to do that depends on your family circumstances. The evening is the time when most families sit down together for dinner.

    I'll tell you all these references to Dr. Oz, and what new weight loss snake oil that he promotes on his programs is getting a little annoying.

    This is simply untrue. Having food in your stomach does not increase or decrease the amount of calories you burn throughout your 24 hours of the day.
  • Sharon_C
    Sharon_C Posts: 2,132 Member
    I didn't read the study but from what you posted it doesn't seem all that bad if your lifestyle can conform to that. About five days a week I could eat like that but it doesn't take into consideration dinners out with friends or a date night with your significant other.

    It's all well and good to count calories and have some sort of system but you have to have a healthy balance in life. If I'm watching my friends eat steaks, etc and I'm eating a bowl of cottage cheese, that's no fun. If I'm turning down time spent with friends because I can't eat a big dinner then that's wrong.

    But if it's a lifestyle that works for you then go for it.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    So you have metabolic syndrome? If not, the study doesn't apply to you.
    Was going to mention the same.

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  • Mischievous_Rascal
    Mischievous_Rascal Posts: 1,791 Member
    That’s great, but dinner is when my husband and I come together to laugh, open a bottle of wine, get the grill going and talk about our day. The sun is setting, the neighborhood is buzzing, and the dog gets some play time while dinner’s in the works. I love choosing recipes, planning meals, and trying out new cooking techniques. Maybe we’ll throw some oysters on the grill. Maybe I’ll whip up a batch of guacamole while we’re waiting for the flank steak to cook. Maybe I’ll experiment with a new cocktail. All doable with a 700-900 calorie spending limit, but 200? (Oh, but do get those 700 calories in at the suckiest part of the day, when you’re bleary-eyed and rushing out the door to go to work.)
    Just No. Sorry Dr. Oz. I doubt your credibility to begin with, but putting that aside, abiding by this study sounds about as joyless and miserable as having a granola bar for dinner. Forever. Which is pretty much the idea.

    This sounds just like my house at dinner time!

    OP: I rarely eat breakfast. In fact, most of my calories are consumed between 6 and 10 pm.

    And Dr. Oz will say anything for anyone that will pay him to say it.
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
    OP In a lot of cases, there are many studies done in any given area concerning fitness and nutrition. I would highly recommend not basing your lifestyle off a single study of anything. Put in the time to do thorough research. Consider the subjects studied in each test. Are they of a similar fitness/metabolic profile that you are? If not, then the study results will likely be very different for you. Find studies involving groups into which you would fit, and even then, research to see if there are opposing studies done on similar groups. Get as many facts as possible before making decisions that could drastically affect your ability to reach your goals.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    "Hey hon, what's for dinner?"

    "A cup of cottage cheese, dear"

    "Ok, what else?"

    "That's it"

    "dafuq"

    :laugh:

    Pretty much this.

    OP: I would pick the meal frequency (and size) based on how easy it is to hit your daily targets rather than some random study that may or may not apply to you.
  • skinny0000
    skinny0000 Posts: 90 Member
    Dr. Oz is a hack
  • kethry70
    kethry70 Posts: 404 Member
    FWIW, I am an obese woman with a metabolic syndrome (PCOS/IR). I eat about 250-350 cals at breakfast most of the time. When I tried out eating a much bigger breakfast and smaller lunch/dinner, I really just ended up eating more later. Cause i was hungry. i think the fact that we have no idea what study participants ate in these meals is important - as long as I eat plenty of protein like egg whites and cheese or a protein smoothie, I am satiated for hours and do well. If I eat cereal or a bagel at a similar calorie count, I'll be starving and snacking in less than 2 hours. Honestly, I pretty much eat a larger lunch and dinner, medium breakfast, and 1-2 smaller snacks - the key is to always have protein or fat o ballast the carbs
  • dunnodunno
    dunnodunno Posts: 2,290 Member
    It mostly comes down to meal preference as I am sure most people here have said.

    I eat the majority of my calories during the day since I get hungriest then & save the rest of my calories for dinner & a later snack.

    I wanted to laugh in a ladies face who said she never ate after seven ever, ever, ever, ever!
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    I'm just in this thread for the hilarious pictures.
  • redversustheblue
    redversustheblue Posts: 1,216 Member
    I was watching Dr. Oz today

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  • jeanstudies
    jeanstudies Posts: 81 Member
    Bump to read all these studies later....
  • CanadianCountryGirl1973
    CanadianCountryGirl1973 Posts: 108 Member
    Depending on your serving size, isn't 1 cup of cottage cheese more than 200 calories? I get the theory... along the lines of not eating after 7:00, and think that smaller, spread out snack/meals is the way to go to retrain our bodies, however eesh.... 200 at dinner..... ow.... then all this lifestyle change would be seriously work, and no fun, and I wouldn't be able to keep up with it!
  • shmerek
    shmerek Posts: 963 Member
    I stopped reading as soon as it mentioned Dr. Oz...

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