In 5 weeks you'll lose 10lbs... why is it not working?

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MireyGal76
MireyGal76 Posts: 7,334 Member
edited November 2022 in Getting Started
When someone signs up for MFP, they are gung ho about losing weight, and want to shed those pounds FAST!

They look at the calculator, enter their stats, and are asked...

What is your lifestyle like... Sedentary? Lightly active?
This is such a subjective question!

Some people are fooling themselves... and think they're very active, when in reality, they work at a desk job, and go home and watch tv for most of the night. But... Sedentary seems bad... And they're not that bad... So they set themselves as very active - fooling themselves into thinking they're able to consume more calories.

Some other people are underestimating themselves, and think they're sedentary, when in reality, they walk to/from work, at lunch, around the office, then get home and chase kids and pets, not sitting down until they fall into bed at the end of the night exhausted. They're burning way more calories than they realize, but they hate themselves, so they pick sedentary. Determined to punish themselves into fitness.

The daily calories expended by the first and the second are dramatically different! And what they pick, can cause pretty significant results...


And then you have...
How many pounds do you want to lose per week?
How many pounds do I want to lose?
I WANNA LOSE EM ALL!!!
How many pounds CAN I LOSE? I can lose up to 2 pounds per week?
signmeup_norm.png

This is where the inevitable road to dissatisfaction and potential rage quit begins.

Stick with me...

According to a random website* (hehe), the average height and weight of a woman in America is 5'4" and 168 pounds. (I KNOW - GENERALIZE MUCH?)

According to another random website** (hehe), if they're sedentary, their daily calorie expenditure is 1838.

If that woman joined MFP and decided to lose 2lb a week... She'd be told to eat 1200 cals a day. If she religiously followed that plan, she wouldn't lose 2lb a week. If she's lucky, she'd barely scratch 1 pound a week.

Why?

The minimum calorie expenditure is 1200 cals a day. It's not safe for you to go below this value.

If your goal causes you to dip below that daily rate, then MFP lets you set it, but will reset your min calories to 1200.

There is no way that the average woman can lose at that rate, given the above calculations.

In fact... in order to possibly lose 2lb per week, you'd need to be burning (at maintenance) 2200 cals per day.
2200CPD_zps775eb892.jpg


My settings currently have me at 2000 cals per day. I am 6'1" and 168 pounds.
I have many tiny friends who won't reach that calorie burn in a day.

Unless you are quite overweight...
TO EXPECT YOURSELF TO BE ABLE TO BURN 2 LBS A WEEK IS CRAZY
It is frustrating.

It is unsustainable.

And it is damaging to your goals.

stop-it-sign.gif


Calorie counting is a simple concept, but it's fraught with variables...
- are you properly estimating your activity levels?
- are you properly estimating your exercise burns?
- are you correctly weighing, measuring, and logging your food?

If you find that you aren't making progress... start to look at those variables...
If you overestimate your activity levels, overestimate your burns, and underestimate your food... you won't succeed in your goals. All you will do is succeed at frustrating yourself.

What I recommend?
Unless you are obese (and have the help of a doctor), I strongly recommend focusing on the following:
- 0.5 lb to 1lb a week MAXIMUM loss.
- learn to weigh and measure your food. EVERYTHING.
(I suffer slow calorie drain by snacking. I KILL MY CALORIES BY SNACKS... 100 cals here, 200 cals there.. until I have nothing left for supper and then give up and go over )
- If you don't know how active you are... then go sedentary and log all your exercise. LOG IT ALL. (But be honest with yourself in terms of burns... sitting on the couch folding laundry - not the same kind of housework as scrubbing floors)


And be patient with yourself. Give it time and adjust. Adjust.
A D J U S T.

You didn't gain the weight in a week, you won't lose it in as much.

Take your time.

You can do this!

**********************
By all means, I welcome correction by those who know more than me...

* https://www.livestrong.com/article/357769-weight-height-for-the-average-american-woman/
** https://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/daily-caloric-expenditure-calculator.aspx

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Taken from my blog and reposting in the post below this (based on feedback received :smile:)
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  • WNT2BSKNEE
    WNT2BSKNEE Posts: 5 Member
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    Great post!
  • 1_Ton_Lady
    1_Ton_Lady Posts: 46 Member
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    bump
  • 1princesswarrior
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    Awesome post is awesome post!
  • ssaraj43
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    :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:
  • The_WoIverine
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    BuMp!
  • SpinSpinSugar69
    SpinSpinSugar69 Posts: 34 Member
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    This is total truth!
  • askeates
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    This is absolutely perfect, and every person that comes to MFP NEEDS to read this.... Thank you for posting this!
  • soberlicious
    soberlicious Posts: 121 Member
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    helps to see positive reminders like this <3. thanks, sandy.
  • haffykhat
    haffykhat Posts: 18 Member
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    How can I change my exercise setting? I have forgotten how much I set it at.
  • emtjmac
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    Long story short, eat TDEE and if you have under 50 pounds to lose, set goals to 0.5 or 1 lb/wk.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
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    You and your facts. I love them! :drinker:
  • mscleo1115
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  • stacyosoyoos
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    taken from my blog (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/MireyGal76/view/in-5-weeks-you-ll-lose-10lbs-why-s-it-not-working-668182) - reposting in the threads (based on feedback received :smile:)

    ********************

    When someone signs up for MFP, they are gung ho about losing weight, and want to shed those pounds FAST!

    They look at the calculator, enter their stats and are asked...

    What is your lifestyle like... Sedentary? Lightly active?
    This is such a subjective question!

    Some people are fooling themselves... and think they're very active, when in reality, they work at a desk job, and go home and watch tv for most of the night. But... Sedentary seems bad... And they're not that bad... So they set themselves as very active - fooling themselves into thinking they're able to consume more calories.

    Some other people are underestimating themselves, and think they're sedentary, when in reality, they walk to/from work, at lunch, around the office, then get home and chase kids and pets, not sitting down until they fall into bed at the end of the night exhausted. They're burning way more calories than they realize, but they hate themselves, so they pick sedentary. Determined to punish themselves into fitness.

    The daily calories expended by the first and the second are dramatically different! And what they pick, can cause pretty significant results....


    And then you have...
    How many pounds do you want to lose per week?
    How many pounds do I want to lose?
    I WANNA LOSE EM ALL!!!
    How many pounds CAN I LOSE? I can lose up to 2 pounds per week?
    signmeup_norm.png

    This is where the inevitable road to dissatisfaction and potential rage quit begins.

    Stick with me...

    According to a random website* (hehe) the average height and weight of a woman in america is 5'4" and 168 pounds. (I KNOW - GENERALIZE MUCH?)

    According to another random website** (hehe), if they're sedentary, their daily calorie expenditure is 1838.

    If that woman joined MFP and decided to lose 2lb a week... She'd be told to eat 1200 cals a day. If she religiously followed that plan, she wouldn't lose 2lb a week. If she's lucky, she'd barely scratch 1 pound a week.

    Why?
    1868CPD_zpse7a532d0.jpg

    Minimum calorie expenditure is 1200 cals a day. It's not safe for your to go below this value.

    If your goal causes you to dip below that daily rate, then MFP lets you set it, but will reset your min calories to 1200.

    There is no way that the average woman can lose at that rate, given the above calculations.

    In fact... in order to possibly lose 2lb per week, you'd need to be burning (at maintenance) 2200 cals per day.
    2200CPD_zps775eb892.jpg


    My settings currently have me at 2000 cals per day. I am 6'1" and 168 pounds.
    I have many tiny friends who won't reach that calorie burn in a day.

    Unless you are quite overweight...
    TO EXPECT YOURSELF TO BE ABLE TO BURN 2 LBS A WEEK IS CRAZY
    It is frustrating.

    It is unsustainable.

    And it is damaging to your goals.

    stop-it-sign.gif


    Calorie counting is a simple concept, but it's fraught with variables...
    - are you properly estimating your activity levels?
    - are you properly estimating your exercise burns?
    - are you correctly weighing, measuring, and logging your food?

    If you find that you aren't making progress... start to look at those variables...
    If you over estimate your activity levels, overestimate your burns, and under estimate your food... you won't succeed in your goals. All you will do is succeed at frustrating yourself.

    What I recommend?
    Unless you are obese (and have the help of a doctor), I strongly recommend focusing on the following:
    - 0.5 lb to 1lb a week MAXIMUM loss.
    - learn to weigh and measure your food. EVERYTHING.
    (I suffer slow calorie drain by snacking. I KILL MY CALORIES BY SNACKS... 100 cals here, 200 cals there.. until I have nothing left for supper and then give up and go over )
    - If you don't know how active you are... then go sedentary and log all exercise. LOG IT ALL. (But be honest with yourself in terms of burns... sitting on the couch folding laundry - not the same kind of housework as scrubbing floors)


    And be patient with yourself. Give it time and adjust. Adjust.
    A D J U S T.

    You didn't gain the weight in a week, you won't lose it in as much.

    Take your time.

    You can do this!

    **********************
    By all means, I welcome correction by those who know more than me...

    * http://www.livestrong.com/article/357769-weight-height-for-the-average-american-woman/
    ** http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/daily-caloric-expenditure-calculator.aspx

    Just tagging so I can re-read this when it feels like it's not working :) Thanks for posting!
  • rachelrb85
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    Great info... you are awesome!