What is an intense weight training session?

JoRocka

well that particular session- not typical- and I would not approve or want to continue lifting in that matter. I'm taking a few days rest and probably up calories by 200 since my work load has increased and get back to it.

I know some people define failure differently but to me it's pretty simple.
Failure to me means I can't lift it any more- and or I literally fail the lift. squatting- meaning you never make it back up- dead lifting- you never get it up to lock out- benching -you roll of shame- drop on the safety rails or your spotter catches it. That's failure to me.

Doing a lift with crappy form still means you moved the weight- not completing a lift means you didn't lift the thing.

MrTolerable

people are really having to choke back vomit during lifting sessions? are you ill?

^lmao - no but I seriously do hold back vomit - this happened to me yesterday actually - after working out for prob 30-45 mins I got down on a smith and cranked out 5 reps of my max - which is 100lbs+ my body weight, and I weigh about 153lbs - I then put my body weight on it and cranked out 28 reps and when I got up I felt light headed, my legs were basically broken for a second and I had to stretch them before getting on the leg curl machine - but regardless - I was holding back some serious vomit while trying to not pass out at the same time. - not only is it possible it is frequent.

-I do drink about 60 fluid oz of water while working out- and it is because I have so much C4 and creatine flowing through me.

@JoRacka - you continue to enlighten me - a body builder at the gym just told me last week the same thing about lifting to failure and he used to be an amateur in local competitions - meaning he knew what he was talking about - so I got to agree with you on it.

However I do agree with No_finish_lin's point that if you plateaued anything is worth a shot.

MrTolerable

The one where I walk away and say to myself "now that was an f-ing hard workout".

Anyone notice this happens especially on legs day when you feel a little wobbly walking out of the gym? =D

:drinker: true dat.

bybyadipocytes

Usually my muscles feel shaky afterwards.

cad39too

When I struggle to pull my sweat drenched top off after an upper body session or to peal my tights off after legs cause my glutes, hammies and quads are screaming when I go to bend over.

No_Finish_Line

- I then put my body weight on it and cranked out 28 reps

ok , just the thought of 28 reps is making me choke back vomit lol


that does sound intense

MrTolerable

When I struggle to pull my sweat drenched top off after an upper body session or to peal my tights off after legs cause my glutes, hammies and quads are screaming when I go to bend over.

^that pic? combined with the images your comment gave me?

thanks!

MrTolerable

- I then put my body weight on it and cranked out 28 reps

ok , just the thought of 28 reps is making me choke back vomit lol


that does sound intense

^lmao - yeah I am going to try to be able to raise it to 50 reps of my body weight someday XD

Shoot for the stars and land on a cloud!

JoRocka

Well- I don't think I've actually plateaued at this point I think I just did an uber bad job with scheduling and recovery. We'll see how monday goes. The numbers don't go up so much as the reps and sets change- I've been at a mild deficit too (in theory- the scale says otherwise) but I'm not really gaining- and I'm losing -ISH so I shouldn't be having to much food issues. I dunno- I want to see this through and then maybe do something different after my meet in July.

- I then put my body weight on it and cranked out 28 reps

ok , just the thought of 28 reps is making me choke back vomit lol


that does sound intense

did a 20 rep squat program- and at some point I did 175 for 20 reps (which is just a hair over BW). It wasn't pretty- they were fugly as hell.. but yeah- stand there shaking under the bar. It's not pretty- no way I'd want to do more than that LOL

Although- Tom Platz.. LOL

navyrigger46

When I struggle to pull my sweat drenched top off after an upper body session or to peal my tights off after legs cause my glutes, hammies and quads are screaming when I go to bend over.

^that pic? combined with the images your comment gave me?

thanks!

I as thinking the same thing. :blushing:

Rigger

Hendrix7

to be honest with you, your the only source i've been hearing this from.

do you have a keyword or something i can google to learn more about what you are talking about.

when i'm healthy again i plan on following a basically periodization scheduel, hoping that will provide similair benefits, but still plan no lifting to failure.

If you look at the majority of intermediate/advanced training programs that are around at the minute,
5/3/1, cube method, juggernaut, lift run bang, sheiko and the Russian methods the common theme amongst them is not training to failure most of the time.

I think the whole 'cns burnout' thing is overplayed a little, I doubt 1% of the training population ever comes close to actually being overtrained. People think 'oh I'm a bit tired today I must be overtraining'

Most people would look a sheiko cycle and think that was overtraining, but it works

JoRocka

to be honest with you, your the only source i've been hearing this from.

do you have a keyword or something i can google to learn more about what you are talking about.

when i'm healthy again i plan on following a basically periodization scheduel, hoping that will provide similair benefits, but still plan no lifting to failure.

If you look at the majority of intermediate/advanced training programs that are around at the minute,
5/3/1, cube method, juggernaut, lift run bang, sheiko and the Russian methods the common theme amongst them is not training to failure most of the time.

I think the whole 'cns burnout' thing is overplayed a little, I doubt 1% of the training population ever comes close to actually being overtrained. People think 'oh I'm a bit tired today I must be overtraining'

Most people would look a sheiko cycle and think that was overtraining, but it works

werd.

I honestly didn't really comprehend how much it (Sheiko) was till I started doing it for my second round I did 29 first- and felt meh about it- but 30 is kind of kicking my *kitten*- doable- but no question its lot of work.

I've mostly been okay with it- the only issue I have had was testing my reps and then going straight back to training the next day.

suremeansyes

When I am having to wipe the sweat off myself, the ground, and the equipment after graving it with my presence.
When I am holding back my vomit - typically three days a week.
When I feel the pump in my arm - C4 helps here
When you're done and you feel something that feels really really rewarding in your brain.
When you're done and you can't help but stand in admiration at the image in the mirror.
When I feel like I can be proud of my performance.
When the callous on my hands gets bigger.
When people in the gym are looking at me and copying the workout routine I do.
When the huge body builders in the gym introduce themselves and compliment my work ethic.
When the ladies wink and keep walking in front of my station trying to catch my gaze.
When I am done working out and my arms are too beat to take off my shirt to get into the shower.
When your walking to your car you feel like you are in a daze due to the concentration you just were putting into each rep.

edit: grammmar

Even though I hate them, I agree about the callous.

I only hate that they rip.

LOL, mine ripped on the left hand and now my girlfriend calls it Zombie Hand.