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    • Posts: 17,525 Member
      well that particular session- not typical- and I would not approve or want to continue lifting in that matter. I'm taking a few days rest and probably up calories by 200 since my work load has increased and get back to it.

      I know some people define failure differently but to me it's pretty simple.
      Failure to me means I can't lift it any more- and or I literally fail the lift. squatting- meaning you never make it back up- dead lifting- you never get it up to lock out- benching -you roll of shame- drop on the safety rails or your spotter catches it. That's failure to me.

      Doing a lift with crappy form still means you moved the weight- not completing a lift means you didn't lift the thing.
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      people are really having to choke back vomit during lifting sessions? are you ill?

      ^lmao - no but I seriously do hold back vomit - this happened to me yesterday actually - after working out for prob 30-45 mins I got down on a smith and cranked out 5 reps of my max - which is 100lbs+ my body weight, and I weigh about 153lbs - I then put my body weight on it and cranked out 28 reps and when I got up I felt light headed, my legs were basically broken for a second and I had to stretch them before getting on the leg curl machine - but regardless - I was holding back some serious vomit while trying to not pass out at the same time. - not only is it possible it is frequent.

      -I do drink about 60 fluid oz of water while working out- and it is because I have so much C4 and creatine flowing through me.

      @JoRacka - you continue to enlighten me :) - a body builder at the gym just told me last week the same thing about lifting to failure and he used to be an amateur in local competitions - meaning he knew what he was talking about - so I got to agree with you on it.

      However I do agree with No_finish_lin's point that if you plateaued anything is worth a shot.
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      Anyone notice this happens especially on legs day when you feel a little wobbly walking out of the gym? =D

      :drinker: true dat.
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      Usually my muscles feel shaky afterwards.
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      When I struggle to pull my sweat drenched top off after an upper body session or to peal my tights off after legs cause my glutes, hammies and quads are screaming when I go to bend over.
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      - I then put my body weight on it and cranked out 28 reps


      ok , just the thought of 28 reps is making me choke back vomit lol ;)


      that does sound intense
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      When I struggle to pull my sweat drenched top off after an upper body session or to peal my tights off after legs cause my glutes, hammies and quads are screaming when I go to bend over.

      ^that pic? combined with the images your comment gave me?

      :wink: thanks!
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      ok , just the thought of 28 reps is making me choke back vomit lol ;)


      that does sound intense

      ^lmao - yeah I am going to try to be able to raise it to 50 reps of my body weight someday XD

      Shoot for the stars and land on a cloud!
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      Well- I don't think I've actually plateaued at this point I think I just did an uber bad job with scheduling and recovery. We'll see how monday goes. The numbers don't go up so much as the reps and sets change- I've been at a mild deficit too (in theory- the scale says otherwise) but I'm not really gaining- and I'm losing -ISH so I shouldn't be having to much food issues. I dunno- I want to see this through and then maybe do something different after my meet in July.
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      ok , just the thought of 28 reps is making me choke back vomit lol ;)


      that does sound intense

      did a 20 rep squat program- and at some point I did 175 for 20 reps (which is just a hair over BW). It wasn't pretty- they were fugly as hell.. but yeah- stand there shaking under the bar. It's not pretty- no way I'd want to do more than that LOL

      Although- Tom Platz.. LOL
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      ^that pic? combined with the images your comment gave me?

      :wink: thanks!

      I as thinking the same thing. :blushing:

      Rigger
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      to be honest with you, your the only source i've been hearing this from.

      do you have a keyword or something i can google to learn more about what you are talking about.

      when i'm healthy again i plan on following a basically periodization scheduel, hoping that will provide similair benefits, but still plan no lifting to failure.

      If you look at the majority of intermediate/advanced training programs that are around at the minute,
      5/3/1, cube method, juggernaut, lift run bang, sheiko and the Russian methods the common theme amongst them is not training to failure most of the time.

      I think the whole 'cns burnout' thing is overplayed a little, I doubt 1% of the training population ever comes close to actually being overtrained. People think 'oh I'm a bit tired today I must be overtraining'

      Most people would look a sheiko cycle and think that was overtraining, but it works
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      If you look at the majority of intermediate/advanced training programs that are around at the minute,
      5/3/1, cube method, juggernaut, lift run bang, sheiko and the Russian methods the common theme amongst them is not training to failure most of the time.

      I think the whole 'cns burnout' thing is overplayed a little, I doubt 1% of the training population ever comes close to actually being overtrained. People think 'oh I'm a bit tired today I must be overtraining'

      Most people would look a sheiko cycle and think that was overtraining, but it works
      werd.

      I honestly didn't really comprehend how much it (Sheiko) was till I started doing it for my second round I did 29 first- and felt meh about it- but 30 is kind of kicking my *kitten*- doable- but no question its lot of work.

      I've mostly been okay with it- the only issue I have had was testing my reps and then going straight back to training the next day.
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      I only hate that they rip.

      LOL, mine ripped on the left hand and now my girlfriend calls it Zombie Hand.
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