Certificate Programs

MrTolerable

Two brief questions -

Are certificates such as the "Sales Growth" from ECornell University worth the investment?

(it is a rather inexpensive investment, but the time is also a huge investment for me)

Also, if I were to go to a potential employer with this certificate would it provide an edge?

--Serious input welcomed--
Cheerz
:drinker:

sissiluv

Sounds like something informational interviews and research could solve

Timshel_

I know when I hire people I always look at education and certificates. More importantly, where the degree and certificates are from. In my opinion, degrees and certificates do help demonstrate at least general proficiency in a certain tome of knowledge that is a good base from which to apply experience.So if two applicants have similar work experience I almost always give preference to the candidate who has the degree/certificate. The rest fleshes out in the interview.

Good luck.

MrTolerable

I know when I hire people I always look at education and certificates. More importantly, where the degree and certificates are from. In my opinion, degrees and certificates do help demonstrate at least general proficiency in a certain tome of knowledge that is a good base from which to apply experience.So if two applicants have similar work experience I almost always give preference to the candidate who has the degree/certificate. The rest fleshes out in the interview.

Good luck.

^what would your opinion on the individual be if it came from Cornell? Positive?

LoneWolf_70

ECornell? Have you tried EHarvard or IStanford? lol

MrTolerable

ECornell? Have you tried EHarvard or IStanford? lol

I already work a full time job, a part time job, will be working on my MBA and work out 2-3 hours a day.

Would completing a certificate online make a difference to you as an employer?

Kitten2629

Mr. Tolerable, your current pic is way better than that ugly suit you had one the other day

MrTolerable

Mr. Tolerable, your current pic is way better than that ugly suit you had one the other day

backhanded compliments ftw :laugh:

Kitten2629

Mr. Tolerable, your current pic is way better than that ugly suit you had one the other day

backhanded compliments ftw :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :blushing: Sorry, just being honest. I know you are proud of it as well as that $190.00 tie, I just don't care for pin stripes lol

MrTolerable

Mr. Tolerable, your current pic is way better than that ugly suit you had one the other day

backhanded compliments ftw :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :blushing: Sorry, just being honest. I know you are proud of it as well as that $190.00 tie, I just don't care for pin stripes lol

Maybe my next seersucker will be in solid white

bcoop911

Weren't you just bragging, last week, about all of the degrees you have and great job you have? Also, about all the money that company has invested in you? You just start threads for attention? haha

MrTolerable

Weren't you just bragging, last week, about all of the degrees you have and great job you have? Also, about all the money that company has invested in you? You just start threads for attention? haha

:noway:

I have two degrees - one in economics & one in marketing.

My company has invested a great deal of resources into me and will be aiding in getting the MBA - they also pay for people to come in and offer training seminars on sales, etc.

I started this thread basically to see if a certification would go a long way in an interview process because I'm considering enrolling in it - it is only 5 classes and wouldn't be terribly expensive for me. - I want to know if the investment would be worth it.

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bragging - eh.. I've been working on not coming across like that - I don't willfully "brag"

MrTolerable

Let's keep this thread on topic tho - As an employer would the certificate go a great deal in the hiring process.

Even if it was acquired online & from Cornell?

ItsCasey

I care more about the quality of your undergraduate and/or graduate education and the RESULTS of your work (not your job description but your actual accomplishments). Certificates don't mean crap to me unless they are particularly difficult to get.

You know what I would ask you if I were interviewing you? I'd ask for specific examples of how Certificate XYZ has helped you in your career. What skills did you learn? How did you put the knowledge you gained into practice for your previous employer? How do you expect to use what you learned in this particular position, if it is offered to you? Relevance is key. Make it relevant.

likitisplit

I'd rather see work product.

MrTolerable

^appreciate this, very informative.

To be very honest with you, I learned a zillion gazzillion more through my job - and honestly it was through the really bad experiences and trials I've encounter on the job - then through any of the schooling. Getting this certification would be just to get it to stand out when I keep trying to move up. As for my company I won a few prestigious awards for being 24.


--youngest employee my initial year with the company and out of the entire company I was neck-to-neck with my boss for "employee of the year"
-I actually found out prior to my vote that it was a dead tie between us both and I voted for him anyway because he was so influential for me. I was a 20 year old at the time, and I surpassed his title 6 months ago. :smokin: - still great friends and he is a great resource

- Won employee of the year my second year on the job -still and hopefully forever will be a record - 21 years old

-won Chief Lead Generator 2011-2013

I am involved in every extracurricular activity the company has, such as community involvement - etc. - does this make a big difference?


But I guess what you are saying is that the certification means just about nothing?


--and yesss I am a workaholic--

MrTolerable

I'd rather see work product.

what if I could deliver both? - and I'm facing people who also only deliver the best - I need to stand out in a sea of perfectionist.

LolBroScience

I don't really see how a certificate would be useful for sales. You can be certified and still not be able to sell, just like you can be a certified personal trainer and still be a totally incompetent.

MrTolerable

I don't really see how a certificate would be useful for sales. You can be certified and still not be able to sell, just like you can be a certified personal trainer and still be a totally incompetent.

^this is true

darrensurrey

Call them up and ask them. If you come away from the conversation having left your credit card details then you know the course was good.

da_bears1008

MrTolerable

Call them up and ask them. If you come away from the conversation having left your credit card details then you know the course was good.

lmao - that's a good one.

I have bumped into many successful people on here so I was just wondering your thoughts when your sitting across the desk looking at a kid like me.

Basically the certification is nice, but it holds about nil weight in the decision making process?

ew_david

I recommend putting "cheerz" on all your applications to whatever EIvyLeague school you choose.

MrTolerable

I recommend putting "cheerz" on all your applications to whatever EIvyLeague school you choose.

Yeah- maybe I can spice it up and even throw a few extra zzzz's 'up 'n der aswell' - :laugh:

cheerzzz
:drinker:

No_Finish_Line

Two brief questions -

Are certificates such as the "Sales Growth" from ECornell University worth the investment?

(it is a rather inexpensive investment, but the time is also a huge investment for me)

Also, if I were to go to a potential employer with this certificate would it provide an edge?

--Serious input welcomed--
Cheerz
:drinker:

in the case where they have hundreds or thousands of applicants, it would perhaps help you in the weeding out process... but once you've been in the work force for awhile, i think job experience heavily out ways education.

AsaThorsWoman

Bump...

I've been considering doing some certificates or something.

Interesting topic.

I'm 31 and I have a BA in Communications I'll probably never use, and work as a phone jockey for $11.50/hr.

I'd like to raise that wage already!

Especially considering I'm single so it's not like it's a supplemental income to a household, it's the ONLY income to the household.

MrTolerable

Two brief questions -

Are certificates such as the "Sales Growth" from ECornell University worth the investment?

(it is a rather inexpensive investment, but the time is also a huge investment for me)

Also, if I were to go to a potential employer with this certificate would it provide an edge?

--Serious input welcomed--
Cheerz
:drinker:

in the case where they have hundreds or thousands of applicants, it would perhaps help you in the weeding out process... but once you've been in the work force for awhile, i think job experience heavily out ways education.

Agree 100% - I'm a bit ambitious and like jumping ahead despite my age, so the amount of experience is a drawback, but I am a sponge and very moldable for the employers - which goes a long way.

Appreciate that tidbit sir.

:tips hat:

rsoice

For what it's worth, any education credential only proves that you have the capacity to learn. Having recently completed an MBA program, I found a few pieces of knowledge that I can apply but overall I believe that further education displays 1) a willingness to continue to learn and 2) commitment if you're already working and completing the program during "your" time.

If you're just looking to add letters to the end of your signature block, don't waste your time. That isn't impressive.

darrensurrey

TBH experience would count for more in sales. I've recruited sales people before. We go on their experience detailed in the CV. Sorry.

MrTolerable

For what it's worth, any education credential only proves that you have the capacity to learn. Having recently completed an MBA program, I found a few pieces of knowledge that I can apply but overall I believe that further education displays 1) a willingness to continue to learn and 2) commitment if you're already working and completing the program during "your" time.

If you're just looking to add letters to the end of your signature block, don't waste your time. That isn't impressive.

^congratulations!!!!

This input is fantastic!

on step number two - I worked two jobs (one full time) while acquiring my degree - is the workload while completing the program while your working like you did extremely difficult to manage compared to acquiring the bachelor degree?


Sorry to keep hitting you back with questions, your input though is fantastic!

MrTolerable

TBH experience would count for more in sales. I've recruited sales people before. We go on their experience detailed in the CV. Sorry.

No need to be sorry, an answer I don't want to hear however still out, and on point is still a great answer.

thanks.