That Dang Processed Food! DEVIL!!!!!
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But sometimes, I just want some dang chips. From a mylar bag. And NOT kale. Never kale:laugh:
Kale is actually delicious and so are kale chips. Given the choice between kale chips and doritos I would take kale chips 99% of the time.0 -
oh gosh- thank you so much!! I was really worried!!!I did chemistry, and now I'm on my way to be a food science engineer - aka. an evil mastermind in training, apparently... Since I know what the label says, does that mean it' healthier for me then? Or, what if I make those ingredients, cook myself a nice batch of dorritos in our test-lab, does that then mean it's a home cooked meal and therefor of course healthier?
:huh: :laugh:
well cook me up some and I will consider it home made :bigsmile:
So is judgement home made or highly processed?
did we agree on a burning calories or consuming calories?
I'm really confused now on how I should log my judgements .
Jo... I think you should log them as 1 calorie burned per second... it takes a lot....
Kale is actually delicious and so are kale chips. Given the choice between kale chips and doritos I would take kale chips 99% of the time.
wrong.
and wrong.
and never.
kale chips are gross. I have no idea why people continue to insist what is essentially a fancy version of parsnip is delicious. I've tried it several ways- ti's gross- and bitter.0 -
I did chemistry, and now I'm on my way to be a food science engineer - aka. an evil mastermind in training, apparently... Since I know what the label says, does that mean it' healthier for me then? Or, what if I make those ingredients, cook myself a nice batch of dorritos in our test-lab, does that then mean it's a home cooked meal and therefor of course healthier?
:huh: :laugh:
well cook me up some and I will consider it home made :bigsmile:
So is judgement home made or highly processed?
did we agree on a burning calories or consuming calories?
I'm really confused now on how I should log my judgements .
As water.0 -
Everyone knows that by processed they are speaking of foods made in a Corporate manufacturing, factory environment.
These overly technical terms are nonsense. We weren't eating boxed, packaged, manufactured food like substances over 50-60 years ago. Foods were made from scratch.
Go ahead and eat those preservatives and food dyes. They are known to be unhealthy in the human body.
Mmm, mmm, 1950's homemade food:
No, thanks! 1950's food looks like sadness :-(
GAH :noway:0 -
:laugh:You want those chemicals Glenn Coco? You go Glenn Coco.0 -
Food is just food
EVERYTHING is processed, taking a potato from the ground is already processing.
Everything is chemicals0 -
But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.
I really actually quiet impressed with the amount of judgeiness you managed to squeeze into this one last highly passive aggressive sentence. that I'm sure took some work!!
I'm pretty sure it's more work to think rationally than it is to pass judgement on people for eating some chips.
I'm not judging anyone. When PMS hits this month I may very well do the same thing with some dark chocolate. Calling it what it is isn't judging. That is what we do when we choose palatable foods with little or no nutritional value. It's fine, we do other things for that, too. Like drink coffee. I'm about to finish off my third cup right now.
You may want to reread your statement and clarify how that's not coming off as judging and condescending. :flowerforyou:
Okay, but everything I do is for pleasure. I like think acknowledging that makes me harder to manipulate into giving up something more pleasurable for something less so.
Even going vegan was for the pleasure of not feeling guilt for what is on my plate. And having a weight loss goal under that which is strictly needed for my health is for both the pleasure of looking how I want to look and the pleasure of trying to succeed at a difficult goal I have set for myself.
And if I ever calculate that either is less than the pleasure of those chips, you better believe I will eat the chips.0 -
Kale is actually delicious and so are kale chips. Given the choice between kale chips and doritos I would take kale chips 99% of the time.
wrong.
and wrong.
and never.
kale chips are gross. I have no idea why people continue to insist what is essentially a fancy version of parsnip is delicious. I've tried it several ways- ti's gross- and bitter.
Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.
I really actually quiet impressed with the amount of judgeiness you managed to squeeze into this one last highly passive aggressive sentence. that I'm sure took some work!!
I'm pretty sure it's more work to think rationally than it is to pass judgement on people for eating some chips.
I'm not judging anyone. When PMS hits this month I may very well do the same thing with some dark chocolate. Calling it what it is isn't judging. That is what we do when we choose palatable foods with little or no nutritional value. It's fine, we do other things for that, too. Like drink coffee. I'm about to finish off my third cup right now.
You may want to reread your statement and clarify how that's not coming off as judging and condescending. :flowerforyou:
Okay, but everything I do is for pleasure. I like think acknowledging that makes me harder to manipulate into giving up something more pleasurable for something less so.
Even going vegan was for the pleasure of not feeling guilt for what is on my plate. And having a weight loss goal under that which is strictly needed for my health is for both the pleasure of looking how I want to look and the pleasure of trying to succeed at a difficult goal I have set for myself.
And if I ever calculate that either is less than the pleasure of those chips, you better believe I will eat the chips.
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yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.0 -
But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.
I really actually quiet impressed with the amount of judgeiness you managed to squeeze into this one last highly passive aggressive sentence. that I'm sure took some work!!
I'm pretty sure it's more work to think rationally than it is to pass judgement on people for eating some chips.
I'm not judging anyone. When PMS hits this month I may very well do the same thing with some dark chocolate. Calling it what it is isn't judging. That is what we do when we choose palatable foods with little or no nutritional value. It's fine, we do other things for that, too. Like drink coffee. I'm about to finish off my third cup right now.
You may want to reread your statement and clarify how that's not coming off as judging and condescending. :flowerforyou:
Okay, but everything I do is for pleasure. I like think acknowledging that makes me harder to manipulate into giving up something more pleasurable for something less so.
Even going vegan was for the pleasure of not feeling guilt for what is on my plate. And having a weight loss goal under that which is strictly needed for my health is for both the pleasure of looking how I want to look and the pleasure of trying to succeed at a difficult goal I have set for myself.
And if I ever calculate that either is less than the pleasure of those chips, you better believe I will eat the chips.
Kinda not sure how this relates to your judgmental statement. *shrug*0 -
But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.
I really actually quiet impressed with the amount of judgeiness you managed to squeeze into this one last highly passive aggressive sentence. that I'm sure took some work!!
I'm pretty sure it's more work to think rationally than it is to pass judgement on people for eating some chips.
I'm not judging anyone. When PMS hits this month I may very well do the same thing with some dark chocolate. Calling it what it is isn't judging. That is what we do when we choose palatable foods with little or no nutritional value. It's fine, we do other things for that, too. Like drink coffee. I'm about to finish off my third cup right now.
You may want to reread your statement and clarify how that's not coming off as judging and condescending. :flowerforyou:
Okay, but everything I do is for pleasure. I like think acknowledging that makes me harder to manipulate into giving up something more pleasurable for something less so.
Even going vegan was for the pleasure of not feeling guilt for what is on my plate. And having a weight loss goal under that which is strictly needed for my health is for both the pleasure of looking how I want to look and the pleasure of trying to succeed at a difficult goal I have set for myself.
And if I ever calculate that either is less than the pleasure of those chips, you better believe I will eat the chips.
Kinda not sure how this relates to your judgmental statement. *shrug*
In order to judge, I would have to think it is wrong to live for pleasure. But I'm a happy hedonist with Utilitarian leanings, I do live for pleasure, and so should you. The maximum pleasure for the longest time period given your own desires and general mental and physical makeup.0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Personal food preferences is equal to backhanded criticism of one's diet. Got it.0 -
Eat all the GMO soy and commercially produced chemicals that you want. At a calorie deficit you will still lose weight. However, if you actually want to get healthy, maybe you should learn more about the additives you're putting into your body instead of blindly blaming "fear mongers" and "health nuts" for falsely demonizing these "foods". Your choice.
ETA: I also eat junk sometimes... but I still do know better. Darn hormonal cravings...0 -
Eat all the GMO soy and commercially produced chemicals that you want. At a calorie deficit you will still lose weight. However, if you actually want to get healthy, maybe you should learn more about the additives you're putting into your body instead of blindly blaming "fear mongers" and "health nuts" for falsely demonizing these "foods". Your choice.
ETA: I also eat junk sometimes... but I still do know better. Darn hormonal cravings...
http://www.senseaboutscience.org/pages/making-sense-of-chemical-stories.html0 -
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Don't be like that... more parsley for you!0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Lol! How on earth is someone's personal dislike of one stupid, singular food a judgment on ANYBODY? Why is our dislike of kale a judgment on kale lovers? That just means more for you--that's a WIN for you.
And so what if parsley is good as a seasoning (I love coriander and cilantro, too--use them frequently), that doesn't make leafy greens baked to a crisp a suitable substitute for corn or potato chips. Just because it's a part of YOUR diet, doesn't mean it is required to be in everyone else's.
I can get every single micro nutrient a body requires from everything I eat. Which does NOT and will never, ever be kale.0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Personal food preferences is equal to backhanded criticism of one's diet. Got it.
Insisting one's preferred food is wrong and gross and "tastes like *kitten*" isn't judgemental? Just pointing out glass houses, stones, etc.0 -
I'm all about eating whatever you want, when you want, how you want, with who you want, with what you want......... ok you get my drift.
But I am critical of the naysayers- OMG DON'T EAT THAT ITS PROCESSED WTF ARE YOU DOING YOU'LL DIE. Or WORSE! YOU WON'T LOSE ANY WEIGHT!!!!
Below are two bags of chips. On the left, kettle cooked potato chips. Those ingredients look pretty good to me! And delicious as well. I love me some natural kettle cooked potato chips. The bag on the left are Doritos. I hate Doritos and you can plainly see there's a lot of ingredients on there that I can't pronounce.... so they could or they could not be good for you. How would I know? I can't even pronounce them to try to copy them into my phone to look them up later when I'm at home instead of the chip aisle of the grocery store looking like a moron.
My point to all the "clean eaters" (YEA GO YOU!) is what's wrong with the chips on the left? The oil? The salt? THE YUMMINESS!???? I think anything in moderation is fine. Even chemically enhanced Doritos. You want those chemicals Glenn Coco? You go Glenn Coco.
I totally agree with you, everything in moderation!! Bring on the potato chips!0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Jokes. Some people have them.
She didn't say "if you eat parsely YOU WILL DIE"0 -
Eat all the GMO soy and commercially produced chemicals that you want. At a calorie deficit you will still lose weight. However, if you actually want to get healthy, maybe you should learn more about the additives you're putting into your body instead of blindly blaming "fear mongers" and "health nuts" for falsely demonizing these "foods". Your choice.
ETA: I also eat junk sometimes... but I still do know better. Darn hormonal cravings...
http://www.senseaboutscience.org/pages/making-sense-of-chemical-stories.html
:flowerforyou:
I had some of these but I saw several I want to read later.0 -
no thanks op, ill eat both bags in one sitting and still lose weight0
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yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Lol! How on earth is someone's personal dislike of one stupid, singular food a judgment on ANYBODY? Why is our dislike of kale a judgment on kale lovers? That just means more for you--that's a WIN for you.
And so what if parsley is good as a seasoning (I love coriander and cilantro, too--use them frequently), that doesn't make leafy greens baked to a crisp a suitable substitute for corn or potato chips. Just because it's a part of YOUR diet, doesn't mean it is required to be in everyone else's.
I can get every single micro nutrient a body requires from everything I eat. Which does NOT and will never, ever be kale.
I simply posted that I preferred well done kale chips to doritos. Someone else decided that they needed to take some time to let everyone know how gross kale chips are, and how they couldn't possibly be good. They also said kale was a fancy version of parsley and parsley was gross, thus me talking about parsley's versatility and wide culinary use. Never mind the fact that the kale being a fancy version of parsley thing is really out there.
If you don't like kale chips that's fine. That doesn't make them gross or stupid. Calling foods gross, stupid, saying you'll never ever ever eat it is approaching food in a pretty immature way.0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Jokes. Some people have them.
She didn't say "if you eat parsely YOU WILL DIE"
No, she just said a food that is used in an incredibly large number of dishes is gross. It's just odd to me that someone could not only dislike something so widespread in it's use but think it is actively repulsive. Sorry if I missed a joke somewhere.0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
Jokes. Some people have them.
She didn't say "if you eat parsely YOU WILL DIE"
No, she just said a food that is used in an incredibly large number of dishes is gross. It's just odd to me that someone could not only dislike something so widespread in it's use but think it is actively repulsive. Sorry if I missed a joke somewhere.
I feel that way about pretty much all cheeses. Food preferences. People have them.
I feel it still doesn't equate with a passive aggressive statement about one's diet choice, which is what the response was originally about.0 -
I simply posted that I preferred well done kale chips to doritos. Someone else decided that they needed to take some time to let everyone know how gross kale chips are, and how they couldn't possibly be good. They also said kale was a fancy version of parsley and parsley was gross, thus me talking about parsley's versatility and wide culinary use. Never mind the fact that the kale being a fancy version of parsley thing is really out there.
If you don't like kale chips that's fine. That doesn't make them gross or stupid. Calling foods gross, stupid, saying you'll never ever ever eat it is approaching food in a pretty immature way.
I'm the one (and another poster) who said kale chips are gross (jokingly--sorry, I hurt the kale's feelings by making it the brunt of my humor). One food. Just ONE food (kale) is all I won't eat in the whole foods world, and I'm immature. Now, who's talking silly, now? That's a pretty big assumption you're making about me (and my fellow kale-haters) based on one, singular food dislike.
Geez, I'm sorry I called kale "stupid." I'll just call it "icky" instead. Gimme all the good turnips, and parsnips, rutabagas and bok choys, and heirloom tomatoes (oh, my delightful heirlooms, I love you so) and broccoli and cauliflower, and every non-kale dark leafy green in the world, and I'll lay down in a bed of pure orgasmic, organic delight of nature's bounty. I love them all equally, I really, truly do.
But alas, we are but mere children who do not know how to properly fuel our physical vessels without the superfood that is kale (for others, parsley). /sigh0 -
yes- yes I do.Uh, are you sure you know what kale is? Parsnip is a root vegetable, kale is a leafy green.
Parsley- I meant parsley. LOL
Green things- taste like *kitten*- used as a garnish. Kale- it tastes like that. it's a leafy gross is what it is.
You realize you're posting this directly above your criticism of someone for being judgemental, right.
I'm sorry you don't enjoy very basic foods that are a healthy part of an adult diet. Parsley is used in a ton of things to help season it, not just as a garnish.
I did note that it was probably going to get some reverb.
And then I remembered- me hating on one particular food doesn't mean I passive aggressively hating you directly or judging you for eating it. more for you- I still think it tastes like *kitten*- I also hate the color pink- does that automatically mean I'm judging you for wearing the color pink?? nope. didn't think so.
and also - seasonings =/= food snacks.
I love garlic.
And salt and pepper
and cilantro
and chili powder
and rosemary
and basil
and lemon balm
and mint
and butter
none of these things I make an entire snack out of to just eat- they are seasonings.
I eat a very well rounded diet of lots of green things- and meat things- and fruit things- and fat things. I'm not sure where I implied that I disliked all green things. I love zucchini- and broccoli- and carrorts- and bok choy- and all sorts of things. I just really really really dislike kale. Don't much care for collard greens either. just bleck.
people think pizza and beer is gross. so what- more for me.
But there is no way kale will ever = doritos. it's just sad. You can like kale chips- I don't care- but they aren't any where close to doritos or any other highly processed delicious cheesy chip- or corn chip. And saying that they are a replacement makes me sad.
Kale got dubbed some sort of weird super healthy food and it's a band wagon food- and some how the healthy social media have jumped on board and dubbed it amazing- and it's super bitter- and I really dislike when something gets popular simply because it's popular because someone said it was. I'd be willing to bet 3/4 of the kale eating population wouldn't' be eating kale if some magazine hadn't said try it it's amazing for you. I don't care that people like weird things- I get annoyed when people like weird things because someone told them it was good.0 -
I feel that way about pretty much all cheeses. Food preferences. People have them.
I feel it still doesn't equate with a passive aggressive statement about one's diet choice, which is what the response was originally about.
I think a lot of folks on this board who follow IIFYM and enjoy junk food like to disparage anything associated with "healthy eating" or "eating clean". Calling foods gross is a symptom of that attitude.0 -
I simply posted that I preferred well done kale chips to doritos. Someone else decided that they needed to take some time to let everyone know how gross kale chips are, and how they couldn't possibly be good. They also said kale was a fancy version of parsley and parsley was gross, thus me talking about parsley's versatility and wide culinary use. Never mind the fact that the kale being a fancy version of parsley thing is really out there.
If you don't like kale chips that's fine. That doesn't make them gross or stupid. Calling foods gross, stupid, saying you'll never ever ever eat it is approaching food in a pretty immature way.
I'm the one (and another poster) who said kale chips are gross (jokingly--sorry, I hurt the kale's feelings by making it the brunt of my humor). One food. Just ONE food (kale) is all I won't eat in the whole foods world, and I'm immature. Now, who's talking silly, now? That's a pretty big assumption you're making about me (and my fellow kale-haters) based on one, singular food dislike.
Geez, I'm sorry I called kale "stupid." I'll just call it "icky" instead. Gimme all the good turnips, and parsnips, rutabagas and bok choys, and heirloom tomatoes (oh, my delightful heirlooms, I love you so) and broccoli and cauliflower, and every non-kale dark leafy green in the world, and I'll lay down in a bed of pure orgasmic, organic delight of nature's bounty. I love them all equally, I really, truly do.
But alas, we are but mere children who do not know how to properly fuel our physical vessels without the superfood that is kale. /sigh
You seem to be intentionally missing the point of what I'm posting. I said that calling foods names is an immature way to approach food. Having food preferences is not immature.0 -
I feel that way about pretty much all cheeses. Food preferences. People have them.
I feel it still doesn't equate with a passive aggressive statement about one's diet choice, which is what the response was originally about.
I think a lot of folks on this board who follow IIFYM and enjoy junk food like to disparage anything associated with "healthy eating" or "eating clean". Calling foods gross is a symptom of that attitude.
Seriously? LOL
I've heard people call various foods gross all my life. Including pizza!0
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