That Dang Processed Food! DEVIL!!!!!

Annie_01

I only get to eat 1200 calories a day to lose weight. Sure, I can eat 1200 calories of chips. That isn't even a food that triggers an all out pigout for me. Except Pringles. I think they put crack in those. But even one serving of chips could have gone to something with nutritional value. Is this for weight or for health? If it's really for health, shouldn't we all be reducing our intake of high calorie, low nutrient foods?

not all of us eat 1200 cals a day to lose weight. IMHO health includes all things in moderation no one is suggesting eat ALL the chips.

Pass the chips please - I'll have some of both :bigsmile:

^^^^This!!!! 1200 calories is not enough and not healthy. I'd rather eat a sensible amount of calories, the majority of those calories made up of 'healthy' foods and the rest of the calories are for foods that are not so functional. Pass the chips!!! Can I get a beer to wash those down?

I am far healthier and better nourished now on 1200 calories of fruits and vegetables plus a multivitamin than I ever was on 3000 calories a day of junkfood and no vitamin. If I eat more than 1200 calories I won't lose the last of this weight. If I eat around 1500 I will gain weight (albeit slowly).

But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.

You must be really short to gain weight on 1500 calories

Don't know what age the poster is but...for those of us that are older...we don't get to eat as much...

sigh:frown:

redversustheblue

But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.

I really actually quiet impressed with the amount of judgeiness you managed to squeeze into this one last highly passive aggressive sentence. that I'm sure took some work!!

I'm pretty sure it's more work to think rationally than it is to pass judgement on people for eating some chips.

I'm not judging anyone. When PMS hits this month I may very well do the same thing with some dark chocolate. Calling it what it is isn't judging. That is what we do when we choose palatable foods with little or no nutritional value. It's fine, we do other things for that, too. Like drink coffee. I'm about to finish off my third cup right now.

You may want to reread your statement and clarify how that's not coming off as judging and condescending. :flowerforyou:

ChrisM8971

I only get to eat 1200 calories a day to lose weight. Sure, I can eat 1200 calories of chips. That isn't even a food that triggers an all out pigout for me. Except Pringles. I think they put crack in those. But even one serving of chips could have gone to something with nutritional value. Is this for weight or for health? If it's really for health, shouldn't we all be reducing our intake of high calorie, low nutrient foods?

not all of us eat 1200 cals a day to lose weight. IMHO health includes all things in moderation no one is suggesting eat ALL the chips.

Pass the chips please - I'll have some of both :bigsmile:

^^^^This!!!! 1200 calories is not enough and not healthy. I'd rather eat a sensible amount of calories, the majority of those calories made up of 'healthy' foods and the rest of the calories are for foods that are not so functional. Pass the chips!!! Can I get a beer to wash those down?

I am far healthier and better nourished now on 1200 calories of fruits and vegetables plus a multivitamin than I ever was on 3000 calories a day of junkfood and no vitamin. If I eat more than 1200 calories I won't lose the last of this weight. If I eat around 1500 I will gain weight (albeit slowly).

But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.

You do know that a lot of multivitamins are manufactured in a lab rather than being natural don't you, pretty sure that has to count as processed in anyones book

lizziebeth1028

The proof is in -

People who don't eat junk food are cranky!!!

amblight

I did chemistry, and now I'm on my way to be a food science engineer - aka. an evil mastermind in training, apparently... Since I know what the label says, does that mean it' healthier for me then? Or, what if I make those ingredients, cook myself a nice batch of dorritos in our test-lab, does that then mean it's a home cooked meal and therefor of course healthier?

:huh: :laugh:

JoRocka

But for those who are more active, I guess if you want to use low nutrient foods to stimulate the pleasure centers in your brain, go for it.

I really actually quiet impressed with the amount of judgeiness you managed to squeeze into this one last highly passive aggressive sentence. that I'm sure took some work!!

I'm pretty sure it's more work to think rationally than it is to pass judgement on people for eating some chips.

I'm not judging anyone. When PMS hits this month I may very well do the same thing with some dark chocolate. Calling it what it is isn't judging. That is what we do when we choose palatable foods with little or no nutritional value. It's fine, we do other things for that, too. Like drink coffee. I'm about to finish off my third cup right now.

wooooshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


The sound you makes as you going blazing by the point.

clambert1273

I did chemistry, and now I'm on my way to be a food science engineer - aka. an evil mastermind in training, apparently... Since I know what the label says, does that mean it' healthier for me then? Or, what if I make those ingredients, cook myself a nice batch of dorritos in our test-lab, does that then mean it's a home cooked meal and therefor of course healthier?

:huh: :laugh:

well cook me up some and I will consider it home made :bigsmile:

Annie_01

I prefer sweet potato chips, and I love to cook. So... I make my own chips from sweet potatoes at the farmer's market.

Maybe to some people, not eating "processed" food such as both chips shown here is more of a moral decision (Kind of like some vegetarians and vegans) just for themselves to adhere by. Most people I know that avoid processed things have allergies or intolerances. Personally, I'd just prefer to support my local farmer and make 'em myself.

Want to start by saying...I cook most of my meals from scratch...I supplement with processed...

I found your use of the words "moral decision" interesting...so...while I too support local farmers...I wondered about the people that work in food processing plants...

If we all stopped buying processed...or even cut our consumption in half...what would happen to those people that work in the food processing industry?

I found this article interesting...we would impact 1 1/2 million people...

http://trade.gov/td/ocg/report08_processedfoods.pdf

VitaminAmy

This is why I use the Fooducate app on my phone... if I'm unsure I just scan the barcode it tells you all the yucky stuff.

JoRocka

I did chemistry, and now I'm on my way to be a food science engineer - aka. an evil mastermind in training, apparently... Since I know what the label says, does that mean it' healthier for me then? Or, what if I make those ingredients, cook myself a nice batch of dorritos in our test-lab, does that then mean it's a home cooked meal and therefor of course healthier?

:huh: :laugh:

well cook me up some and I will consider it home made :bigsmile:

So is judgement home made or highly processed?

did we agree on a burning calories or consuming calories?


I'm really confused now on how I should log my judgements .

gabrielleelliott90

Now I'm a crisp addict, but I don't eat them everyday anymore. I have treats in moderation, the rest I eat healthy. Some days I may want some chocolate, some days crisps. I would have both those crisps in moderation. Kettle chips are obvi healthier however, more guilt free. I would of purchased those over the doritos probably. But there is nothing with either, if you aren't about healthy eating, go ahead and eat as many as you want, but log them and you'll still live.

williams969

Maybe some people just like to make things on their own from scratch? I enjoy making my own condiments, snacks, etc. I think in the long run it will probably end up being healthier than eating food dyes and artificial flavorings. Processed food isn't evil, it's just generally not as good as the real stuff.

OH, then can you please make me some homemade Doritos that taste as GOOD as Doritos? Seriously, though, I love making stuff from scratch, healthy, nice and simple foods, too. That's the bulk of my food stuffs. Keeps me off BP meds and keeps the 'beetus the hell away from me (damn family history of horrible lifestyles mixed with genetics :grumble: ).

But sometimes, I just want some dang chips. From a mylar bag. And NOT kale. Never kale:laugh:

randomtai

I thought this was about Devil's food...

williams969

I thought this was about Devil's food...

Oh, just changed my mine. Eff the chips, GIMME THAT

stealthq

I only get to eat 1200 calories a day to lose weight. Sure, I can eat 1200 calories of chips. That isn't even a food that triggers an all out pigout for me. Except Pringles. I think they put crack in those. But even one serving of chips could have gone to something with nutritional value. Is this for weight or for health? If it's really for health, shouldn't we all be reducing our intake of high calorie, low nutrient foods?

not all of us eat 1200 cals a day to lose weight. IMHO health includes all things in moderation no one is suggesting eat ALL the chips.

Pass the chips please - I'll have some of both :bigsmile:

All yours! By the way, they're both processed foods. Technically so are the raisins I eat, too, though. One has MSG and one doesn't, that stands out for me because a friend of mine gets migraines from it. You can have her chips, too.

Everyone knows that by processed they are speaking of foods made in a Corporate manufacturing, factory environment.

These overly technical terms are nonsense. We weren't eating boxed, packaged, manufactured food like substances over 50-60 years ago. Foods were made from scratch.

Go ahead and eat those preservatives and food dyes. They are known to be unhealthy in the human body.

My grandmother grew up on boxed, packaged, manufactured food. More than 60 years ago. Try again.

stealthq

I only get to eat 1200 calories a day to lose weight. Sure, I can eat 1200 calories of chips. That isn't even a food that triggers an all out pigout for me. Except Pringles. I think they put crack in those. But even one serving of chips could have gone to something with nutritional value. Is this for weight or for health? If it's really for health, shouldn't we all be reducing our intake of high calorie, low nutrient foods?

not all of us eat 1200 cals a day to lose weight. IMHO health includes all things in moderation no one is suggesting eat ALL the chips.

Pass the chips please - I'll have some of both :bigsmile:

All yours! By the way, they're both processed foods. Technically so are the raisins I eat, too, though. One has MSG and one doesn't, that stands out for me because a friend of mine gets migraines from it. You can have her chips, too.

Everyone knows that by processed they are speaking of foods made in a Corporate manufacturing, factory environment.

These overly technical terms are nonsense. We weren't eating boxed, packaged, manufactured food like substances over 50-60 years ago. Foods were made from scratch.

Go ahead and eat those preservatives and food dyes. They are known to be unhealthy in the human body.

See, I tend to avoid preservatives and food dyes, too. But have you ever looked at a cookbook from the 50's? Ghastly stuff. Try 75-100 years back to get to a time without overly processed foods.

I stand corrected on the time line. You know what I was getting at though.

It is disturbing how cooking from scratch seems to be a lost art. Hardly anyone knows how to cook anymore. I just shake my head.

I think that's a shame, too. But it is a completely separate issue from whether 'overly' processed foods are inherently bad for you or not.

jstout365

I only have one question for the OP......

Why Weis kettle chips and not the far superior

williams969

Everyone knows that by processed they are speaking of foods made in a Corporate manufacturing, factory environment.

These overly technical terms are nonsense. We weren't eating boxed, packaged, manufactured food like substances over 50-60 years ago. Foods were made from scratch.

Go ahead and eat those preservatives and food dyes. They are known to be unhealthy in the human body.

Mmm, mmm, 1950's homemade food:



No, thanks! 1950's food looks like sadness :-(

Slacker16

Everyone knows that by processed they are speaking of foods made in a Corporate manufacturing, factory environment.

These overly technical terms are nonsense. We weren't eating boxed, packaged, manufactured food like substances over 50-60 years ago. Foods were made from scratch.

Go ahead and eat those preservatives and food dyes. They are known to be unhealthy in the human body.

See, I tend to avoid preservatives and food dyes, too. But have you ever looked at a cookbook from the 50's? Ghastly stuff. Try 75-100 years back to get to a time without overly processed foods.

50 years? 100 years? Lol, try at least 2000 years.

The most common flavouring agent used in ancient Rome was a sauce called garum. It was basically fish guts (the flesh fetched a higher price unprocessed) that were salted and treated with preservatives, heat-cured, fermented into liquid, decanted then seasoned.

All of this was done on an industrial scale and the end-result was shipped in sealed and branded amphorae all over the Mediterranean basin. There were myriads of variants based on the fish used, the exact process and the flavourings added... we've even found ads for various brands...

For the record, some people already complained that it was "unhealthy".

clambert1273

I did chemistry, and now I'm on my way to be a food science engineer - aka. an evil mastermind in training, apparently... Since I know what the label says, does that mean it' healthier for me then? Or, what if I make those ingredients, cook myself a nice batch of dorritos in our test-lab, does that then mean it's a home cooked meal and therefor of course healthier?

:huh: :laugh:

well cook me up some and I will consider it home made :bigsmile:

So is judgement home made or highly processed?

did we agree on a burning calories or consuming calories?


I'm really confused now on how I should log my judgements .

Jo... I think you should log them as 1 calorie burned per second... it takes a lot....