Strength (tone) training consecutive days?

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    no body is poo pooing the program.

    but if someone thinks they are doing weight training specifically with this video then they are sorely mistaken.

    That's the only issue.

    But yes- I agree. You could probably do this kind of work regularly and not have much negative impact.

    which well- that's kind of the point of a progressive loading program- if you don't need to take rest- then what are you training?

    It's the difference between training and exercising. I hate to exercise. I love to train.

    you know- I was thinking about posting a topic about this- because we have a fair cross section of both on this forum- thought it might make for an interesting discussion- because totally agreed- the thought of exercising just to get my "workout in"... a box to check really just- that would make me crazy. And it took me a while to figure out why I did what I did- and it was because I wanted to be training- and I hate the idea of just exercising.
    I may get poo poo'ed on for this but I like CT Fletcher and I don't mind over training and it doesn't have me losing muscle mass.
    if you're over training- you're doing something wrong. But most people don't go anywhere near "over training" they just get tired and call it a day.
    And you don't need bulk & cut cycles or there would be no Mr. Olympia lol .. I am 5'5, 125lbs and only lifted heavy and ate 2000 cals and lost 9 inches, so if you work hard, really hard and set your macros right you can achieve a great body without trying to put on muscle and fat then trying to lose the fat and trying not to lose any of those muscles again.

    I am not sure I understand this.
    Bulking and cutting is for people really tinkering with muscle size and body fat.
    You do not NEED to bulk/cut to have a decent body. But you need it if you want to get past some blocks in lifting or you just aren't satisfied with your size. (I could be bigger- so I bulk because I want to be)- then doing some bulk/cut cycles will be advantageous.

    That doesn't mean I want or will look look like Larissa- it takes a lot of things outside protein shakes and a few bulk/cut cycles to look like that.

    Even "average" women can do bulk/cut cycles and never get to a competitive physique state.

    But no- it isn't NEEDED to have a decent looking body- but I guess that's very much a "eye of the beholder" type thing.
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.

    Nonsense.

    Of course you can do strength training on a cut - it helps keep lbm, you might not get great gains or you may stall on lifts but you'll recover fine on a sensible programme with rest days.

    You also don't need experience or no one would ever start lifting. :noway:

    Re-read what I'm responding to. I'm responding to a quote about strength training EVERY DAY 7-days a week. Doing real strength training every day is possible, but it takes more than just wading into the weight room and picking heavy **** up. If you want to do it long term or at least for a couple months and get some good strength gains from it, your programming has to be intelligent and your nutrition needs to be on-point or you'll burn yourself out.
    And you don't need bulk & cut cycles or there would be no Mr. Olympia lol .. I am 5'5, 125lbs and only lifted heavy and ate 2000 cals and lost 9 inches, so if you work hard, really hard and set your macros right you can achieve a great body without trying to put on muscle and fat then trying to lose the fat and trying not to lose any of those muscles again.

    There's a huge difference between somebody losing a few inches and hanging around at sub-12% BF (men) and an Olympiad competitor going in at sub 5% BF. Huge difference in what's required to maintain that.
  • djeffreys10
    djeffreys10 Posts: 2,312 Member
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.

    Nonsense.

    Of course you can do strength training on a cut - it helps keep lbm, you might not get great gains or you may stall on lifts but you'll recover fine on a sensible programme with rest days.

    You also don't need experience or no one would ever start lifting. :noway:

    Re-read what I'm responding to. I'm responding to a quote about strength training EVERY DAY. Doing real strength training every day is possible, but it takes more than just wading into the weight room and picking heavy **** up. If you want to do it long term or at least for a couple months and get some good strength gains from it, your programming has to be intelligent and your nutrition needs to be on or you'll burn yourself out.

    No, it was in response to strength training on CONSECUTIVE days. When cutting I strength train 5 consecutive days, some days on as much as a 1000 calorie deficit (if I run 3-5 miles that day in addition to strength training). But most days on a 500 calorie deficit. You most certainly CAN do that. But you don't want to train the same muscles two consecutive days. Which is why I do a bro split while cutting (Chest/Back/Shoulders/Legs/Arms/Rest/Rest). It works for me.
    There's a huge difference between somebody losing a few inches and hanging around at sub-12% BF (men) and an Olympiad competitor going in at sub 5% BF. Huge difference in what's required to maintain that.

    And that difference is called steriods. However, they still run bulk/cut cycles. Not sure what the rules are for discussing that on this site, but without getting into too much detail...there are different cycles that are ran, depending on whether they are bulking or cutting during the cycle.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Okay- consecutive strength training.

    Can it be done?
    YES

    is it always the way to do it
    NO.

    It's highly goal/load dependent.

    As Djeffrey's pointed out- doing back to back muscles is typically not wise.

    I life the same lifts EVERY lift- different rotation- but I ONLY do squat, dead, bench- or minor variations. I only lift 3 times a week.

    So I train the same exact muscles regularly- but only 3 times a week.

    It's doable- but you gotta kind of know what you're doing and why you are doing it.
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.

    Nonsense.

    Of course you can do strength training on a cut - it helps keep lbm, you might not get great gains or you may stall on lifts but you'll recover fine on a sensible programme with rest days.

    You also don't need experience or no one would ever start lifting. :noway:

    Re-read what I'm responding to. I'm responding to a quote about strength training EVERY DAY. Doing real strength training every day is possible, but it takes more than just wading into the weight room and picking heavy **** up. If you want to do it long term or at least for a couple months and get some good strength gains from it, your programming has to be intelligent and your nutrition needs to be on or you'll burn yourself out.

    No, it was in response to strength training on CONSECUTIVE days. When cutting I strength train 5 consecutive days, some days on as much as a 1000 calorie deficit (if I run 3-5 miles that day in addition to strength training). But most days on a 500 calorie deficit. You most certainly CAN do that. But you don't want to train the same muscles two consecutive days. Which is why I do a bro split while cutting (Chest/Back/Shoulders/Legs/Arms/Rest/Rest). It works for me.

    That's my fault, as I read that as training every day; consecutive and every day are a little different. I have gone on 7-days training cycles myself and it is tricky to manipulate because it's very easy to wear yourself out if you don't manage your volume appropriately.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    To give a simple response: Do your preferred program every other day. On the "off" days, I would do something mild that doesn't include the use of any weights, such as half an hour on the stationary bike at a moderate intensity, or going for a walk.

    I'm not going to argue with anyone about what is/isn't strength training. I personally feel like if you are using ten pound weights where you previously used five, then you are increasing your strength. The every other day thing is important so that muscle is not lost and so that overuse injuries don't develop.

    Getting plenty of lean protein is good. I also like to use liquid B vitamins before a workout. It gives energy right when you need it. :)

    Thank you :)
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    Never mind got my answer elsewhere ~ in case anyone else is curious this was the response I got in regards to Turbo Sculpt consecutive days.

    By strength training every day, you risk two things:

    First, you can actually lose muscle. Muscle develops while at rest, which is why you should never work the same area two days in a row. In the case of Turbo Sculpt, it's a total body routine so to get the results you want, you should alternate the days you use it. Say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday. If you don't give the muscles time to rest you could lose muscle tissue.

    Second, you risk over training, which is a direct effect of what I explained above. Not even bodybuilders work out the same are two days in a row. You could hinder the results you want so badly.

    Cardio on the other hand is another matter. 5 and 6 days a week is OK. You will be burning fat and help you define all areas.

    Hope this helps

    That's actually not the answer YOU were seeking. The answer to your question has already been provided in your thread.

    Your question was can you strength train the same muscles consecutively. But once we learned of your current exercise program, we informed you that you aren't actually strength training. So your actual question is "can I do my cardio program with light weights on consecutive days."

    Your program is more akin to cardio and doesn't induce the amount of tissue damage that occurs when strength training. The upside: you can do it much more frequently than strength training. The downside: it ain't strength training.

    Just because there's a weight involved doesn't make something strength training. And just because you like to do it doesn't magically turn it into strength training either. And just because you don't like the answers provided doesn't make them false.

    Ignoring quality responses such as this will prevent you from gaining the knowledge required to ultimately succeed. Keep an open mind, learn from others here that know their stuff, and don't seek to validate a pre-conceived notion that you already have. Best of luck to you.