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Sometimes tone matters.
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Sorry OP, I don't believe in the "Toning" myth, thought I do support your right to belief there is one. Please do not get butthurt.
I also belief this gif is hawt...
But... she's not giffing.0 -
You know I respect you Tim, but this must be said.
"Well that oughta fix it."
I have no doubt that it will fix the issue, but my hopes that one or two people on both sides of that fence might read it and work on their tone/sensitivity. It may last only a post or two, but there is a very slim chance that someone may receive something positive as a result.
Perhaps. I've gone down the same road. You'll never really know who was impacted because you'll never see them not do something.
Who knows the proportion of rational people, anyway? 98% of MFP could easily parse tone accurately, not take offense, and quietly move on.
It is easy to be distracted by a very loud, very small minority who will take offense to anything and everything. Some people are paranoid and insecure; certain that everyone is out to get them. This type of person will always read criticism into things that others write.
Inevitably, unable to come to terms with the fact that their problems originate from within, they will end up acting out in hostility against all of their imaginary persecutors.
Can't tell someone like that to just sit down, shut up, and have a nice cup of tea; they're too busy choking on their own frothy saliva.0 -
I get what you're saying OP and I agree.
I try to be nice to people that are obviously new to this. But to the posters who ask a question and get great advice, and then openly disregard said advice and say everyone is mean and unsupportive....that's when kitten gifs are entirely warranted.0 -
A lot of these threads remind me of nagging my daughter to clean her room. It's her room and if she likes being messy, fine. But if she tells me she can't find your pink shorts, I'm going to tell her to clean her room. I'm not going to clean it for her and I'm not buying her another pair. She always ALWAYS tells me I'm so mean for telling her that she has to clean her room to find her pink shorts.
Do I make sense?0 -
A lot of these threads remind me of nagging my daughter to clean her room. It's her room and if she likes being messy, fine. But if she tells me she can't find your pink shorts, I'm going to tell her to clean her room. I'm not going to clean it for her and I'm not buying her another pair. She always ALWAYS tells me I'm so mean for telling her that she has to clean her room to find her pink shorts.
Do I make sense?
Yes. And you look hot. Double Wammy! (Whammy?)0 -
A lot of these threads remind me of nagging my daughter to clean her room. It's her room and if she likes being messy, fine. But if she tells me she can't find your pink shorts, I'm going to tell her to clean her room. I'm not going to clean it for her and I'm not buying her another pair. She always ALWAYS tells me I'm so mean for telling her that she has to clean her room to find her pink shorts.
Do I make sense?
Perfect sense.0 -
I get what you are saying, op. And I agree. I have thought similiar things before. Sometimes people are very sensitive. Sometimes there is poor delivery, a pile on, etc (sometimes it happens just because it's the internet and everyone is replying individually). And sometimes there are things about the op that it wouldn't hurt if we maybe considered their individual circumstances.
I think that people tend to jump to some big conclusions about others on here, but sometimes people are just different, or in a different place at the moment, etc.
People don't have to do anything. But, I just get what you are saying.0 -
A spirited cat (seen as a bully cat sometimes), a sensitive cat and a cat that stays above the kerfuffle.0
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I get what you are saying OP...because despite my gif I did read it.0 -
Several times per week there is a new thread posted about how "mean" some people on MFP are or how they are feeling "bullied". Many times you can look at their posting history and find a thread where they recently posted some dubious claim that was then refuted several times with the poster clinging to their unsubstantiated claims and getting hostile towards those disagreeing.
Are they always correct in that people are being mean to them? No. But many times there are people being pretty damn condescending. Myself included. If I feel that you are being willfully ignorant, despite information to the contrary, then I am not going to hide my contempt.
But sometimes I see that poster get piled on pretty damn quickly and it is really no wonder that they get defensive. No one wants to feel like an idiot.
So sometimes it can be useful to take a step back and ask yourself if you are being condescending or if you have offered no real information in your recent posting history, and opting to post humorous gifs or some caustic snark.
And if you are getting butthurt by your claims being refuted and feeling mocked, maybe it is time to stop typing and read the information being given and filter through the humor.
Most people on here are not going to be a jerk intentionally. And most gifs that appear to be insulting you are in good fun. It is hard to get the full measure of someone's tone until you have been around awhile.
TL;DR: Maybe you are a jerk, maybe you are being sensitive, don't be stupid, post more gifs.
I think a lot of us want to help OPs see the light. So we provide as many compelling reasons and supporting arguments as we can. However, you don't always need to close the deal during the first meeting. Sometimes it's better to drop some enticing information and let the person reach out to you for more when they are ready.0 -
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