artificial sweeteners are a no no!

RZEE

most of us use artificial sweeteners as a healthy choice in our diet , but did u know how dangerous these sweeteners are ?

i have to admit that i used artificial sweeteners for a long time and i didn't know how bad they were.

the artificial sweeteners i'm talking about are

1: aspartame (Equal)
2:sucralose (splenda)
3:saccharin (sweet 'N low)

and u will find these artificial sweeteners in some or should i say MOST of the "sugar free" products

these sweeterners can overstimulate the neurons in the brain , causing many to self-destruct and effecting ur whole nervous system. and causing a lot of diseases such as alzheimer's disease.

u might wonder now , what should i use instead since regular sugar isn't a good choice either ?
The good news is that nature provides a wonderful natural sugars that are sweet, safe, does not spike insulin and actually good for your dental health.

1: stevia
2:truvia
3:xylitol

u can look for products that are sweetened by stevia, truvia or xylitol to satisfy ur sweet tooth and not causing harm to ur body

i actually use stevia in my tea and it's yummy , and truvia is good for baking sweets and such om nom nom

i really wanted to share these infos with u guys cuz i noticed that almost all of you r using artificial sweeteners , we r all on a journey to be healthy , to feel healthy and to love our bodies , so don't do the opposite!


sources : the belly fat cure by jorge cruise
u can view his books on google books
and u can also download the free report of his book by googling "jorge cruise pdf"
and for further infos , visit his website : http://jorgecruise.com/

u can watch his videos on youtube , here's some
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBm9ZfR4mtY&playnext=1&list=PLA6EBEB8FD158BF35&index=2
u can visit his youtube channel for more videos : http://www.youtube.com/user/jorgecruise
and u can join his facebook group and ask him questions if u have any doubts still : http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/jorgecruisefan

ickybella

Just out of curiosity, where did you get this information? Sounds like it was endorsed by the good people who make Stevia. I would definitely like to see evidence of this, though.

Hibpshman1

Please post some sources. Thanks!
AL.

RZEE

Just out of curiosity, where did you get this information? Sounds like it was endorsed by the good people who make Stevia. I would definitely like to see evidence of this, though.

i dunno if u heard about jorge cruise , the author of many books about weight loss and health ... i took this infos from his book "the belly fat cure" and some of the articels he wrote , u can view his book on google books
i dunno why ppl think that i'm advertising jorge cruise's works , all i wanted to do is to share my success following his program.

Wiitabax

these sweeterners can overstimulate the neurons in the brain , causing many to self-destruct and effecting ur whole nervous system. and causing a lot of diseases such as alzheimer's disease.

Crap!


Sorry to be controversial, but it's VERY dangerous to say that a product 'causes' a disease... I'm a qualified Mental Health Nurse and work specifically in Dementia Care... there are things you can do to reduce the risks of dementia... but to say something 'causes' it (specifically Alzheimer's) is wrong, and unfair...

"Oh, if only you hadn't eaten that, you'd be okay).

This type of 'info' is just as dangerous as giving out info. on so-called 'cures' too - it gives people false hope which is cruel.

Sorry if I'm being a pain, but this is something I feel VERY strongly about.

Please get your FACTS before sharing such wild claims.

RZEE

these sweeterners can overstimulate the neurons in the brain , causing many to self-destruct and effecting ur whole nervous system. and causing a lot of diseases such as alzheimer's disease.

Crap!


Sorry to be controversial, but it's VERY dangerous to say that a product 'causes' a disease... I'm a qualified Mental Health Nurse and work specifically in Dementia Care... there are things you can do to reduce the risks of dementia... but to say something 'causes' it (specifically Alzheimer's) is wrong, and unfair...

"Oh, if only you hadn't eaten that, you'd be okay).

This type of 'info' is just as dangerous as giving out info. on so-called 'cures' too - it gives people false hope which is cruel.

Sorry if I'm being a pain, but this is something I feel VERY strongly about.

Please get your FACTS before sharing such wild claims.

well i didn't bring these infos from my head ... u can see the sources of these infos by reading jorge cruise's books ... and of course it's different from a person to another , and i'm talking about it in the long term , it's not like u'll get these diseases in a year or 2.
watch this video and u'll see where i got my facts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBm9ZfR4mtY&playnext=1&list=PLA6EBEB8FD158BF35&index=2

RZEE

i edited my topic and i added all the sources so u can go and check it out urself.

noble1987

Sorry but Im very skeptical - sometimes its about a matter of opinion that gets out of hand.

I dont use artificial sweetners often, but Im not going to stop because I might die of some disease you tell me!

I'm with Wiitabix on this one I'm afraid.

RZEE

Sorry but Im very skeptical - sometimes its about a matter of opinion that gets out of hand.

I dont use artificial sweetners often, but Im not going to stop because I might die of some disease you tell me!

I'm with Wiitabix on this one I'm afraid.

i understand ur opinion ... but let us leave the jorge cruise and his book aside , have u even tried to google it?

the thing that i don't understand is .. why choosing something that might harm u instead of choosing the best thing?
even if the harm was a long term one .. it's like smoking.

but try and go through the sources i posted first b4 jumping to conclusions.

lee112780

It also causes cancer in lab rats, but was never proven to cause cancer in humans. Obesity causes cancer though!

AlyRoseNYC

Yawn.

Hmm...I can't seem to find any report of someone dying by means of Splenda overdose.
BUT...I can find a lot of reports of obese people who died as a result of a high sugar diet.

Wants2bethin

Either way the stuff in pink,blue, and yellow packets are fake sugar. People will do whatever they want to make there food/drinks taste better for them,

LotusF1ower

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

catcrazy

Give it a few years and i'm sure these newer sweeteners will also see someone writing a book slamming them. The bad sweeteners are better for you if you need to lose weight or watch sugar intake than sugar is.

There are lots of foods 'linked' to various diseases and disorders. Not so long ago eggs were bad bad bad now its been found that eggs are pretty good all round. I think a large pinch of salt (low sodium of course) should be taken with a lot of these reports, especially when the writer of them has a vested interest.

RZEE

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

did u even read the options i had for u , it's also low in calories , i didn't say that u should use regular sugar , omg READ!!

and the whole "counting calories" thing is dead old now ... it's all about sugar and carbs only (if u evenn bothered going through the sources i posted u'd know what i'm talking about).. yeah u might lose weight counting calories , but u have to burn calories at the same time and all that old talk ... what i'm looking for is a LIFESTYLE not a diet !!!
all i wanted to do is to share what i know and what i'm sure of with a good intention ... u can totally disagree , it's ok we r different .. but why being mean about it?

loveusa

Stevia has been used in Asia for 500 years and has stood the test of time. Our new lab sweeteners are a few bare decades old. Who knows! It's a person's own decision what risk they are willing to take with their body. However, I appreciate the information.

Wants2bethin

Lol seriously :laugh:

RZEE

Give it a few years and i'm sure these newer sweeteners will also see someone writing a book slamming them. The bad sweeteners are better for you if you need to lose weight or watch sugar intake than sugar is.

There are lots of foods 'linked' to various diseases and disorders. Not so long ago eggs were bad bad bad now its been found that eggs are pretty good all round. I think a large pinch of salt (low sodium of course) should be taken with a lot of these reports, especially when the writer of them has a vested interest.

yeah and stevia/ truvia and xylitol will not spike ur insuline so it has the same effect without the artificials , and it doen't count as sugar

and u r correct , we used to hear that eggs/mayo/butter were bad for u , and jorge cruise allow all these in his book. i actually believe in him , i've read a lot of reports /articles about him and gathered a lot of infos that i know know that i made a good decision following his lifestyle program .

RZEE

Either way the stuff in pink,blue, and yellow packets are fake sugar. People will do whatever they want to make there food/drinks taste better for them,

mmhmm that' s true even of the existence of natural sugars they still go chasing after artificial ones , oh well *sigh*

RZEE

Stevia has been used in Asia for 500 years and has stood the test of time. Our new lab sweeteners are a few bare decades old. Who knows! It's a person's own decision what risk they are willing to take with their body. However, I appreciate the information.

exactly , i didn't post this to force ppl to believe what i believe in .. i just wanted to share the info cuz i thought it might be useful for them , i feel that ppl that use these sweeteners r on a denial or something that they don't even wanna hear anything bad about something they love.

noble1987

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

did u even read the options i had for u , it's also low in calories , i didn't say that u should use regular sugar , omg READ!!

and the whole "counting calories" thing is dead old now ... it's all about sugar and carbs only (if u evenn bothered going through the sources i posted u'd know what i'm talking about).. yeah u might lose weight counting calories , but u have to burn calories at the same time and all that old talk ... what i'm looking for is a LIFESTYLE not a diet !!!
all i wanted to do is to share what i know and what i'm sure of with a good intention ... u can totally disagree , it's ok we r different .. but why being mean about it?

If so you dont believe counting calories is the way forward... then why on earth are you on a site that is all about counting calories!?

RZEE

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

did u even read the options i had for u , it's also low in calories , i didn't say that u should use regular sugar , omg READ!!

and the whole "counting calories" thing is dead old now ... it's all about sugar and carbs only (if u evenn bothered going through the sources i posted u'd know what i'm talking about).. yeah u might lose weight counting calories , but u have to burn calories at the same time and all that old talk ... what i'm looking for is a LIFESTYLE not a diet !!!
all i wanted to do is to share what i know and what i'm sure of with a good intention ... u can totally disagree , it's ok we r different .. but why being mean about it?

If so you dont believe counting calories is the way forward... then why on earth are you on a site that is all about counting calories!?

cuz i'm counting my sugar/carb and fiber intake only ( u won't know why i'm counting these things only till u read the sources i posted) .. this site counts lots of different things not calories alone !!!!!!!!!!!!!

noble1987

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

did u even read the options i had for u , it's also low in calories , i didn't say that u should use regular sugar , omg READ!!

and the whole "counting calories" thing is dead old now ... it's all about sugar and carbs only (if u evenn bothered going through the sources i posted u'd know what i'm talking about).. yeah u might lose weight counting calories , but u have to burn calories at the same time and all that old talk ... what i'm looking for is a LIFESTYLE not a diet !!!
all i wanted to do is to share what i know and what i'm sure of with a good intention ... u can totally disagree , it's ok we r different .. but why being mean about it?

If so you dont believe counting calories is the way forward... then why on earth are you on a site that is all about counting calories!?

cuz i'm counting my sugar/carb and fiber intake only ( u won't know why i'm counting these things only till u read the sources i posted) .. this site counts lots of different things not calories alone !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

RZEE

for those of u who r too lazy to check his website , here's a part of the article
here's the link for the whole thing : http://jorgecruise.com/the-science-new/

What is The Belly Fat Cure?

The first thing you must awaken to is the truth about what causes belly fat and obesity, and it isn’t a failure to count calories or fat grams. It is critical you understand that the foods we eat are packed full of hidden sugars. The latest breakthrough research has proven that losing and gaining fat isn’t determined by how many calories you eat, but by the kind of calories you eat. That is why the focus of The Belly Fat Cure is about eating the right amount of sugar and carbohydrates to maximize fat loss while still satisfying your sweet tooth. The reason we single out the sugar and carbohydrates, not the calories and fat, all has to do with the science of a naturally occurring hormone we all have...insulin.

Why Insulin?

You may be thinking “I’m not diabetic, my insulin is fine!” or “I’ve always known it is bad to eat sugar, I hardly ever have candy!” That is where the breakthrough research about insulin and the huge amounts of hidden sugar in our everyday “healthy” foods comes into play. It is absolutely vital you know that insulin is the hormone that controls your bodies ability to push fat into fat cells, especially the dangerous fat tissue that accumulates around the midsection. Without lowering insulin levels, it is impossible to lose weight, regardless of calorie intake or exercise intensity.

LotusF1ower

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

did u even read the options i had for u , it's also low in calories , i didn't say that u should use regular sugar , omg READ!!

and the whole "counting calories" thing is dead old now ... it's all about sugar and carbs only (if u evenn bothered going through the sources i posted u'd know what i'm talking about).. yeah u might lose weight counting calories , but u have to burn calories at the same time and all that old talk ... what i'm looking for is a LIFESTYLE not a diet !!!
all i wanted to do is to share what i know and what i'm sure of with a good intention ... u can totally disagree , it's ok we r different .. but why being mean about it?

I am on a lifestyle change right now, lost 38lbs, taken 5 months granted, but it's gone, been doing the calorie counting thing actually, I can guarantee it works - FOR ME. Oh I also exercise very hard thanks very much, training for a half marathon now actually - not bad at 50 years old eh - counting calories is not dead meat where I am sitting!

I am not on a diet either and you may disagree with me but there you go, tough, you posted a topic and I replied, I disagreed with it, no problem, it is only my opinion. I am not being mean - you just do not like a different point of view, not my problem to be honest.

I am sharing what I know, through experience, what worked for me may just work for somebody else. I am merely saying that sweeteners are not the devil in disguise and although people seem to trake great delight in putting others off sweeteners, I ntice they never actually come up with an alternative.

Well the alternative is to eat or not to eat the things - I choose to eat, because I think it is all propaganda

noble1987

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

did u even read the options i had for u , it's also low in calories , i didn't say that u should use regular sugar , omg READ!!

and the whole "counting calories" thing is dead old now ... it's all about sugar and carbs only (if u evenn bothered going through the sources i posted u'd know what i'm talking about).. yeah u might lose weight counting calories , but u have to burn calories at the same time and all that old talk ... what i'm looking for is a LIFESTYLE not a diet !!!
all i wanted to do is to share what i know and what i'm sure of with a good intention ... u can totally disagree , it's ok we r different .. but why being mean about it?

I am on a lifestyle change right now, lost 38lbs, taken 5 months granted, but it's gone, been doing the calorie counting thing actually, I can guarantee it works - FOR ME. Oh I also exercise very hard thanks very much, training for a half marathon now actually - not bad at 50 years old eh - counting calories is not dead meat where I am sitting!

I am not on a diet either and you may disagree with me but there you go, tough, you posted a topic and I replied, I disagreed with it, no problem, it is only my opinion. I am not being mean - you just do not like a different point of view, not my problem to be honest.

I am sharing what I know, through experience, what worked for me may just work for somebody else. I am merely saying that sweeteners are not the devil in disguise and although people seem to trake great delight in putting others off sweeteners, I ntice they never actually come up with an alternative.

Well the alternative is to eat or not to eat the things - I choose to eat, because I think it is all propaganda

Well said... x

RZEE

So when I have my four sweeteners in each cup of tea, (0.8 calories in total) - perhaps I should replace it with four teaspoons full of sugar in each cup (80 calories) - don't think so. Don't tell me to use honey either, that is also 20 calories per spoonful.

I have been using sweeteners since 1989 and have had no side-affects whatsoever.

Propaganda and crap.

BTW before anybody comments, I LIKE sweet tea and coffee, I have cut almost everything else I used to enjoy out because it was crap, I do not intend to start drinking unsweetened tea and coffee as it tastes like poison to me.

Calories in -v- calories out - that has what has made me lose weight and that is what I will continue to do - even during maintenance.

did u even read the options i had for u , it's also low in calories , i didn't say that u should use regular sugar , omg READ!!

and the whole "counting calories" thing is dead old now ... it's all about sugar and carbs only (if u evenn bothered going through the sources i posted u'd know what i'm talking about).. yeah u might lose weight counting calories , but u have to burn calories at the same time and all that old talk ... what i'm looking for is a LIFESTYLE not a diet !!!
all i wanted to do is to share what i know and what i'm sure of with a good intention ... u can totally disagree , it's ok we r different .. but why being mean about it?

I am on a lifestyle change right now, lost 38lbs, taken 5 months granted, but it's gone, been doing the calorie counting thing actually, I can guarantee it works - FOR ME. Oh I also exercise very hard thanks very much, training for a half marathon now actually - not bad at 50 years old eh - counting calories is not dead meat where I am sitting!

I am not on a diet either and you may disagree with me but there you go, tough, you posted a topic and I replied, I disagreed with it, no problem, it is only my opinion. I am not being mean - you just do not like a different point of view, not my problem to be honest.

I am sharing what I know, through experience, what worked for me may just work for somebody else. I am merely saying that sweeteners are not the devil in disguise and although people seem to trake great delight in putting others off sweeteners, I ntice they never actually come up with an alternative.

Well the alternative is to eat or not to eat the things - I choose to eat, because I think it is all propaganda

not gonna lie , i actually lost 40 pounds doing the whole calorie counting thing and working out , i did it for 2 years and it was the worst 2 years "health wise" of my life ... i got sick more often and had lots of health problems ... don't get me wrong , i love to exercise but i don't do it to burn calories anymore , but to help me with the dance lessons i'm taking.

and i totally understand that u wanna stick with the thing that worked for u the best .. i was in that phase when i first heard about the book, i was kinda scared to follow the program and then fail at it ... change was always somthing scary for me.
but yeah i decided to follow the program and i'm glad i did.
but u know , counting calories might not work for everyone , one method can't work for everyone , counting calories worked for u , and it did for me but with lots of side effects( i got sick a lot of times cuz of it and i was actually a zombie , a person with no energy).. but the program i'm following now worked amazingly for me (ur body will lose weight at it's own pace which is healtheir)
so yeah all i wanted to do is to give ppl this choice .. if they liked it then they can follow it , if not then they can continue doing what they r doing , all i wanted was a meaningful discussion not a war.

but yeah thx for posting

freightdiva

I am addicted to Splenda and I do worry about it too. I used to be addicted to Sweet N low heard it was bad told to try Equal became adicted to this and then heard it was bad so now I have a Splenda addiction. IDK if I can stop as I love sweet tea and coffee and have given up most of the other junk in my life??!! I will buy a box soon and try it. Then when I am feeling pretty good about a healthy avenue I have chosen there will be a report stating why this is bad and to try another healthy option.lol

sunnysashka

I agree. I never eat anything what is artificial. I would rather have a controlled anount of sugat vs a boat load of artificial sweeteners.

But it is just me! Stay healthy!

And, people, why are you so angry at the topic? If you do not agree, it is your right, but please, do not be mean.

ickybella

Funny how such drama can arise over a weight-loss forum post! Seriously, though. Counting calories has worked so well for so many people. Have you checked out the success stories on this site? I get a little irritated when people say "All you have to do is stop eating bread and potatoes." so I am not coming from a happy place when I reply to your outlandish comments about sweeteners and the fact that all you need to do is watch your carb/sugar intake. It's not so easy for everyone, and I think it's kind of deceptive of anyone to say that any diet is going to just get rid of your belly fat. Surely you'd lose in other places too, right? I mean, what kinds of foods out there go through your digestive system and target just your belly? I truly wish I could find some miracle food that would lessen my chubb, but that's just not happening. Here's the thing: No matter what you do, your weight loss will depend on what you're taking in vs. what you're burning. It does work. I've been doing it for a while, and I eat bread, rice, even chocolate bars on occasion. I know, gasp. Just do what you can to lose your weight and let us do what we can. Carb counting alone has never worked for me, but if it works for you, then go on. I suppose you would lose weight for a while if you deprived your body of one of its necessary nutrients, but you do need some carbs!

RZEE

I agree. I never eat anything what is artificial. I would rather have a controlled anount of sugat vs a boat load of artificial sweeteners.

But it is just me! Stay healthy!

And, people, why are you so angry at the topic? If you do not agree, it is your right, but please, do not be mean.

exactly , they can share their opinion in a civil way but no no no , they have to be mean!

and yeah the whole point of losing weight is to be healthy , then why using artificials? god knows

thx a lot for ur post ^_^