Sugar

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  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    i believe there are good and bad sugars. Your body processes plant sugars extremely easily and that's why fruits and veggies don't make you gain weight. I haven't experienced weight gain on a diet based off mostly fruits and it's very sugary! I also eat maple syrup on occasion and that doesn't make me gain at all. I'm pretty sure honey won't either because it technically comes from plants but is eaten and regurgitated a bunch by the bee. I don't eat it for ethical reasons
    ALL sugar is plant sugar, sugar cane is a plant... So are sugar beets. You're making no sense.
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  • jordanify
    jordanify Posts: 81 Member
    when we eat anything sweet it has hormonal effects and increased cravings. I completely cut sugars out of my diet for 6 weeks, and all fruit except an apple a day. Cravings were gone, I felt awesome and now I feel good with only one teaspoon of honey in my daily tea and 2 fruit servings. If you are going to keep eating it I recommend local organic unpasteurized honey...it is far superior to sugar because it is natural.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    i believe there are good and bad sugars. Your body processes plant sugars extremely easily and that's why fruits and veggies don't make you gain weight. I haven't experienced weight gain on a diet based off mostly fruits and it's very sugary! I also eat maple syrup on occasion and that doesn't make me gain at all. I'm pretty sure honey won't either because it technically comes from plants but is eaten and regurgitated a bunch by the bee. I don't eat it for ethical reasons

    No individual foods make people (without medical issues, anyway) gain weight. How would that work?

    As someone else noted above, the issue with added sugar according to WHO and the AMA is that in the modern world people increasingly live in societies where they engage in less activity and have high calorie food (and food in general) readily available. One way of dealing with that is to limit foods that have high ratios of calories to nutrients. That's why the recommendations don't apply to fruit or dairy, not some claim that certain sugars are inherently bad apart from the way that they are an easy way to help avoid calorie surpluses in people's diets.

    Edit: I didn't even notice the plant sugar thing. So it's lactose that makes you fat and the sugar cane is off the hook?
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,257 Member
    when we eat anything sweet it has hormonal effects and increased cravings. I completely cut sugars out of my diet for 6 weeks, and all fruit except an apple a day. Cravings were gone, I felt awesome and now I feel good with only one teaspoon of honey in my daily tea and 2 fruit servings. If you are going to keep eating it I recommend local organic unpasteurized honey...it is far superior to sugar because it is natural.

    That's awesome for you.

    Sugar doesn't give me cravings or hormonal effects ( what hormonal effects did it give you exactly?) so I will continue on eating it just fine ( within calorie limit , of course)
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    when we eat anything sweet it has hormonal effects and increased cravings. I completely cut sugars out of my diet for 6 weeks, and all fruit except an apple a day. Cravings were gone, I felt awesome and now I feel good with only one teaspoon of honey in my daily tea and 2 fruit servings. If you are going to keep eating it I recommend local organic unpasteurized honey...it is far superior to sugar because it is natural.

    Why is it more natural? Because the bees do the work instead of humans?

    I also don't get cravings from eating something that includes sugar. If it has that effect on you cutting it out might well make sense for you, but it's hardly something that the food itself causes for everyone.
  • candistyx
    candistyx Posts: 547 Member
    I use raw honey :) I used to have diabetes so I am always careful about my sugar intake even if I do not have it anymore. :) I did some research and raw honey seemed to have the best results. It is a little thicker and not as sweet took me about 3 days to get used to the difference now I love it :)
    Used to have diabetes? How did you cure it?

    I lost 200 pounds and changed my eating habits :) My daily sugar went from 220 and now sits on average around 80-83 :)
    do you think if someone has diabetes but only 60-70lbs to lose they would be able to get rid of the diabetes?
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  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    I use raw honey :) I used to have diabetes so I am always careful about my sugar intake even if I do not have it anymore. :) I did some research and raw honey seemed to have the best results. It is a little thicker and not as sweet took me about 3 days to get used to the difference now I love it :)
    Used to have diabetes? How did you cure it?

    I lost 200 pounds and changed my eating habits :) My daily sugar went from 220 and now sits on average around 80-83 :)
    do you think if someone has diabetes but only 60-70lbs to lose they would be able to get rid of the diabetes?

    Depends. If your diabetes is mainly caused by insulin resistance, then it's likely to achieve levels of control where it appears to be "cured" (note, it's not really cured, just managed much better without the need for medications. If the above poster goes back to eating a lot of sugar and gains weight, it will manifest again). If you are insulin dependant, then you are likely to need smaller doses with weight loss and lifestyle modifications and even control it with just medications! Note it's not always the case. Some people are just bound to have diabetes no matter what they do or how thin they get, especially if it's caused by irreversible damage to the insulin producing cells.

    In either case, weight loss and lifestyle modifications help tremendously.
  • Cerakoala
    Cerakoala Posts: 2,547 Member
    I use raw honey :) I used to have diabetes so I am always careful about my sugar intake even if I do not have it anymore. :) I did some research and raw honey seemed to have the best results. It is a little thicker and not as sweet took me about 3 days to get used to the difference now I love it :)
    Used to have diabetes? How did you cure it?

    I lost 200 pounds and changed my eating habits :) My daily sugar went from 220 and now sits on average around 80-83 :)
    do you think if someone has diabetes but only 60-70lbs to lose they would be able to get rid of the diabetes?

    Depends. If your diabetes is mainly caused by insulin resistance, then it's likely to achieve levels of control where it appears to be "cured" (note, it's not really cured, just managed much better without the need for medications. If the above poster goes back to eating a lot of sugar and gains weight, it will manifest again). If you are insulin dependant, then you are likely to need smaller doses with weight loss and lifestyle modifications and even control it with just medications! Note it's not always the case. Some people are just bound to have diabetes no matter what they do or how thin they get, especially if it's caused by irreversible damage to the insulin producing cells.

    In either case, weight loss and lifestyle modifications help tremendously.

    You are absolutely right :) I guess cured is the wrong word so i apologize about that. Yes if I revert back It will for sure come abck I have no doubts :) Which is why I always try to be mindful of what I put into my body :) Yougave a lot of great info though and it is spot on :)
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    According to the WHO stuff I've read, added sugars is simply a convenience. There is no dietary need outside of calories for carbs, the western diet tends incorporate too many calories and focusing on added sugar is a simple target to these excess calories without becoming knowledgable about all the ins and out of nutrition.

    This is barely coherent. Not that it matters, but please let me edit for readability now that I'm on a computer.

    According to the WHO stuff I've read, the recommendation to eliminate added sugars is simply a convenience. Since there is no dietary need outside of calories for carbs and the western diet tends incorporate too many calories, focusing on eliminating added sugar from a person's diet is a simple way to target these excess calories without having to educate an entire population about all the ins and out of nutrition.
  • ScaryMaryOne
    ScaryMaryOne Posts: 13 Member
    Yay for you! Talk about taking control of your health. You're inspiring!
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Sugar is clearly evil. Just like fat was...salt...saturated fat...carbs...

    Right now, sugar is most definitely evil.