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  • kkimpel
    kkimpel Posts: 303 Member
    Maybe your doctor has an example plan. Are you very small? I know that I am only 5"2' and 58.. so I don't really get a LOT of calories to be at my set weight.. like 13800. I am currently on a doctor guided diet. I go once a week, and they have a very scripted plan.. like the lady above mentioned. I match Carbs with Protein 5 to 6 times a day. It is generally less than 1,000 calories, but this is not forever.. this is for losing weight and they check my muscle/fat ratio regularly and have me do blood test once a month. I just had my one month, and I gained muscle mass and loss 17 lbs of fat..
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    1200 Calories is insane. You cannot and should not live healthy on that. Use this program and let it tell you what you need. I have been using it for a while and it works great. I am 46 and had been big for a long time. Someone suggested this to me and it has been a blessing. Be honest with the questions it asks and stay true to the program and you will loose weight. If you need support.....add me as a friend and lets do this. :D
    Without knowing anything about the op, other than she's in her 60s, how can you know it's "insane"?
    Her BMR may well be about 1000 for all we know.
    But then, we don't know.
  • tjl2329
    tjl2329 Posts: 169 Member
    Oh and the more you exercise the more you can eat.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    My doctor advised me at my visit last week, that she would like me to follow a 1200 calorie/day diet. She said she would like me to divide it into 5-6 small meals with my daily goal being 1200 calories, 10 grams of protein, and 25g carb. How do you even begin to research creating such a diet plan? You don't think she meant 10g protein & 25g carb at each of the 5-6 meals do you? Is a daily total of 10g protein & 25g carbs/day even possible?

    Maybe you should call her and get her to verify? At the same time, though, why is she having you at a 1200 calorie deficit and for how long? Will she be supervising this? What are your current stats? (height/weight).
    Is 1200 a day unreasonable somehow? MyFitnessPal has me at that and some days I don't end up at more than 1000, plus I don't eat back exercise calories

    Ummm...why are you at 1000 cals? Have you or do you plan on doing that for a long time? If so, your maintenance is going to suck, not to mention a big loss of muscle mass.

    I only stay at about 1000 when I don't exercise and I just forget to add in some extra calories because I don't get hungry. Most days I do 1200. So far I have only been gaining muscle and tone I don't think I've been losing muscle mass

    No, you aren't gaining muscle at 1000 calorie goal.

    Info if you want to read. It's a lot, but worth it in my opinion (in regards to having too large a deficit and about "building" muscle)

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/adding-muscle-while-losing-fat-qa.html

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/09/04/can-you-build-muscle-and-lose-fat-at-the-same-time/

    http://body-improvements.com/2012/08/22/qa-how-can-i-go-about-building-some-muscle/

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/weight-training-for-fat-loss-part-1.html
  • bcanderson123456
    bcanderson123456 Posts: 45 Member
    1200 Calories is insane. You cannot and should not live healthy on that. Use this program and let it tell you what you need. I have been using it for a while and it works great. I am 46 and had been big for a long time. Someone suggested this to me and it has been a blessing. Be honest with the questions it asks and stay true to the program and you will loose weight. If you need support.....add me as a friend and lets do this. :D

    it amazes me that people call this a program. This is not some special program it is a calorie counting tool. For most people I would think they would adjust the Macros, because the "program" as you call it is by default low on protein and high on carbs. Don't get me wrong I think this is a very good calorie counter, but some talk like it is almost a cult and has special insights.
  • laratacita
    laratacita Posts: 53 Member
    My first question was merely to determine why the doctor put her on such a diet. The doctor may have reasons, and I don't know the original poster's health. It seems extreme to me. I also know that women are more likely to be told to diet even if they do not actually need to do so.

    However, given that I have some computer programming training and some journalistic training -- although I do not us emuch of either -- I am not about to second guess her doctor without more information.
  • asciident
    asciident Posts: 166 Member
    Well, first I'd ask your doc to explain their reasoning for such a low-cal diet plan and for how long you're supposed to follow it. But I'd also probably ask for a referral to a registered dietitian unless your doc is a weight loss or nutrition specialist.
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    I only stay at about 1000 when I don't exercise and I just forget to add in some extra calories because I don't get hungry. Most days I do 1200. So far I have only been gaining muscle and tone I don't think I've been losing muscle mass
    25 to 30% of weight loss is muscle mass if nothing is done to stop it (high protein, strength training (like the kind with heavy weights), etc.).

    You are doing nothing to stop muscle loss and everything to encourage it. Just because you see more of the muscle you already have as you lose fat off your body, doesn't mean you are not losing muscle.
  • Rainydaygirl1
    Rainydaygirl1 Posts: 117 Member
    My doctor advised me at my visit last week, that she would like me to follow a 1200 calorie/day diet. She said she would like me to divide it into 5-6 small meals with my daily goal being 1200 calories, 10 grams of protein, and 25g carb. How do you even begin to research creating such a diet plan? You don't think she meant 10g protein & 25g carb at each of the 5-6 meals do you? Is a daily total of 10g protein & 25g carbs/day even possible?

    Maybe you should call her and get her to verify? At the same time, though, why is she having you at a 1200 calorie deficit and for how long? Will she be supervising this? What are your current stats? (height/weight).
    Is 1200 a day unreasonable somehow? MyFitnessPal has me at that and some days I don't end up at more than 1000, plus I don't eat back exercise calories

    Ummm...why are you at 1000 cals? Have you or do you plan on doing that for a long time? If so, your maintenance is going to suck, not to mention a big loss of muscle mass.

    I only stay at about 1000 when I don't exercise and I just forget to add in some extra calories because I don't get hungry. Most days I do 1200. So far I have only been gaining muscle and tone I don't think I've been losing muscle mass

    No, you aren't gaining muscle at 1000 calorie goal.

    Info if you want to read. It's a lot, but worth it in my opinion (in regards to having too large a deficit and about "building" muscle)

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/adding-muscle-while-losing-fat-qa.html

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/09/04/can-you-build-muscle-and-lose-fat-at-the-same-time/

    http://body-improvements.com/2012/08/22/qa-how-can-i-go-about-building-some-muscle/

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/weight-training-for-fat-loss-part-1.html

    My goal isn't 1000, my goal is 1200. And I have a higher protein intake then suggested by the app. I go a little lower on carbs and higher on my protein.
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    My doctor advised me at my visit last week, that she would like me to follow a 1200 calorie/day diet. She said she would like me to divide it into 5-6 small meals with my daily goal being 1200 calories, 10 grams of protein, and 25g carb. How do you even begin to research creating such a diet plan? You don't think she meant 10g protein & 25g carb at each of the 5-6 meals do you? Is a daily total of 10g protein & 25g carbs/day even possible?
    It is probably per meal, but you should talk to your Doctor. We don't know anything about you except your age. How tall are you, what do you weigh, and do you know why your Doctor put you on that diet, actually ask your Doctor that question.
  • QBass
    QBass Posts: 14
    It seems really strange to me that nobody posting here so far seems to know that 10g protein and 25g carbs adds up to 140 calories. Carbohydrates and protein have 4 kcalories per gram, while fats have 9 kcalories per gram.

    Aside from that, I would suggest doing as much research on your own as you can and talking things over with your doctor until you both understand each other better. If I had simply listened to my doctors 5 years ago, I would be on medications for high blood pressure and blood thinners for the rest of my life. I would also have become diabetic and been "treated" for that soon, as it runs in my family and I was already borderline with my then current lifestyle. Doing my own research taught me why a carb-centric diet is so horrible for us and I will now live to not regret it.
  • Faye_Anderson
    Faye_Anderson Posts: 1,495 Member
    My doctor advised me at my visit last week, that she would like me to follow a 1200 calorie/day diet. She said she would like me to divide it into 5-6 small meals with my daily goal being 1200 calories, 10 grams of protein, and 25g carb. How do you even begin to research creating such a diet plan? You don't think she meant 10g protein & 25g carb at each of the 5-6 meals do you? Is a daily total of 10g protein & 25g carbs/day even possible?

    Maybe you should call her and get her to verify? At the same time, though, why is she having you at a 1200 calorie deficit and for how long? Will she be supervising this? What are your current stats? (height/weight).
    Is 1200 a day unreasonable somehow? MyFitnessPal has me at that and some days I don't end up at more than 1000, plus I don't eat back exercise calories

    Ummm...why are you at 1000 cals? Have you or do you plan on doing that for a long time? If so, your maintenance is going to suck, not to mention a big loss of muscle mass.

    I only stay at about 1000 when I don't exercise and I just forget to add in some extra calories because I don't get hungry. Most days I do 1200. So far I have only been gaining muscle and tone I don't think I've been losing muscle mass

    No, you aren't gaining muscle at 1000 calorie goal.

    Info if you want to read. It's a lot, but worth it in my opinion (in regards to having too large a deficit and about "building" muscle)

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/adding-muscle-while-losing-fat-qa.html

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/09/04/can-you-build-muscle-and-lose-fat-at-the-same-time/

    http://body-improvements.com/2012/08/22/qa-how-can-i-go-about-building-some-muscle/

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/weight-training-for-fat-loss-part-1.html

    My goal isn't 1000, my goal is 1200. And I have a higher protein intake then suggested by the app. I go a little lower on carbs and higher on my protein.

    You're not gaining muscle on 1200 calories either, read the links
  • Rainydaygirl1
    Rainydaygirl1 Posts: 117 Member
    I only stay at about 1000 when I don't exercise and I just forget to add in some extra calories because I don't get hungry. Most days I do 1200. So far I have only been gaining muscle and tone I don't think I've been losing muscle mass
    25 to 30% of weight loss is muscle mass if nothing is done to stop it (high protein, strength training (like the kind with heavy weights), etc.).

    You are doing nothing to stop muscle loss and everything to encourage it. Just because you see more of the muscle you already have as you lose fat off your body, doesn't mean you are not losing muscle.

    I am doing a higher than recommended on here protein level. And I do do some strength training not just straight cardio
  • mackmama11
    mackmama11 Posts: 15 Member
    I am not sure why your doctor suggested that, but it sounds to me that youneed to ask for a referral to a dietitian asap. They give you accurate, clear nutrition intake information and also explain how to count calories, read labels, portion control, meal planning. Just call your doctor's office and ask to see a dietitian, they will probably do it. Most people would have questions about such a diet.
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    I only stay at about 1000 when I don't exercise and I just forget to add in some extra calories because I don't get hungry. Most days I do 1200. So far I have only been gaining muscle and tone I don't think I've been losing muscle mass
    25 to 30% of weight loss is muscle mass if nothing is done to stop it (high protein, strength training (like the kind with heavy weights), etc.).

    You are doing nothing to stop muscle loss and everything to encourage it. Just because you see more of the muscle you already have as you lose fat off your body, doesn't mean you are not losing muscle.

    I am doing a higher than recommended on here protein level. And I do do some strength training not just straight cardio
    IMHO eat more and lift heavy weights if you really want to get toned and healthy. You need more calories than you eat just to function, you aren't going to even maintain muscle mass. Unless you are in obese range, you can lose a lot of muscle. If you lose lean tissue, that slows your metabolism, do you want to eat like that for the rest of your life or gain? If you look like your picture, there is no reason for you to be eating that low calorie, it is way not healthy. Obese people can get away with it for a while, but even they can only do it a few months at best without losing muscle.
  • Rainydaygirl1
    Rainydaygirl1 Posts: 117 Member
    I only stay at about 1000 when I don't exercise and I just forget to add in some extra calories because I don't get hungry. Most days I do 1200. So far I have only been gaining muscle and tone I don't think I've been losing muscle mass
    25 to 30% of weight loss is muscle mass if nothing is done to stop it (high protein, strength training (like the kind with heavy weights), etc.).

    You are doing nothing to stop muscle loss and everything to encourage it. Just because you see more of the muscle you already have as you lose fat off your body, doesn't mean you are not losing muscle.

    I am doing a higher than recommended on here protein level. And I do do some strength training not just straight cardio
    IMHO eat more and lift heavy weights if you really want to get toned and healthy. You need more calories than you eat just to function, you aren't going to even maintain muscle mass. Unless you are in obese range, you can lose a lot of muscle. If you lose lean tissue, that slows your metabolism, do you want to eat like that for the rest of your life or gain? If you look like your picture, there is no reason for you to be eating that low calorie, it is way not healthy. Obese people can get away with it for a while, but even they can only do it a few months at best without losing muscle.

    Then I am at the point where if I do try to increase my calorie intake I just end up gaining. Is there a way for me to adjust without just putting on weight? Any recommendations as far as strength training I can do at home?
  • Rainydaygirl1
    Rainydaygirl1 Posts: 117 Member
    My doctor advised me at my visit last week, that she would like me to follow a 1200 calorie/day diet. She said she would like me to divide it into 5-6 small meals with my daily goal being 1200 calories, 10 grams of protein, and 25g carb. How do you even begin to research creating such a diet plan? You don't think she meant 10g protein & 25g carb at each of the 5-6 meals do you? Is a daily total of 10g protein & 25g carbs/day even possible?

    Maybe you should call her and get her to verify? At the same time, though, why is she having you at a 1200 calorie deficit and for how long? Will she be supervising this? What are your current stats? (height/weight).
    Is 1200 a day unreasonable somehow? MyFitnessPal has me at that and some days I don't end up at more than 1000, plus I don't eat back exercise calories

    Ummm...why are you at 1000 cals? Have you or do you plan on doing that for a long time? If so, your maintenance is going to suck, not to mention a big loss of muscle mass.

    Yeah someone else just sent me to a site to find my BMMR and such. I should have been eating 1500 a day just to survive, jeez. And 1700 to lose healthy. Well damn. My body is gonna start putting on weight if I try that :/
  • kkimpel
    kkimpel Posts: 303 Member
    I am not sure why your doctor suggested that, but it sounds to me that youneed to ask for a referral to a dietitian asap. They give you accurate, clear nutrition intake information and also explain how to count calories, read labels, portion control, meal planning. Just call your doctor's office and ask to see a dietitian, they will probably do it. Most people would have questions about such a diet.

    that's good advice.. I know that was the start of my plan.. meeting with a nutritionist
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    1. Follow your doctor's orders. If you have serious doubts, get a second opinion...from another doctor. Do not get medical advice from strangers on the Internet. Ever.

    2. See a nutritionist. Once I was diagnosed and could say, "Here's what the doctor said I have to do," the nutritionist was so very helpful. You doc should be able to refer you to one. Some grocery stores have them. Their whole job is diet stuff and they're familiar with all the different ones. When I said "NASH diet" to most people, they had no clue. When I said it to the nutritionist, she started nodding right away. They're awesome when you have stuff to follow.

    Good luck on your diet diet and adjustments! Hang in there!! :)
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,228 Member
    1200 Calories is insane. You cannot and should not live healthy on that. Use this program and let it tell you what you need. I have been using it for a while and it works great. I am 46 and had been big for a long time. Someone suggested this to me and it has been a blessing. Be honest with the questions it asks and stay true to the program and you will loose weight. If you need support.....add me as a friend and lets do this. :D

    OP is a 64 year old female and is 60 lb over weight.
    We do not know her height, so I am not factoring that in

    However, 1200 does not seem an unreasonable weight loss limit to me.

    Many older, shorter, not so active women can live quite healthily on that.

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