Hitting the Wall, Bonking

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  • Creiddylad
    Creiddylad Posts: 27
    I'm just bumping this for you. I think some people are confusing bonking and boinking. :wink:

    where I'm from bonking has a risque meaning. I've heard of boinking as well (same meaning), I think it may be a dialectual difference.

    I told one of my NZ friends that I was rooting for her. Apparently that also has a different meaning! :laugh:

    LOL

    best one I heard.... in southern UK "chuffed" means "very happy" and if you put well before an adjective, it means very, e.g. "he's well 'ard" = he's very hard (or "badass" to give a USA version of the term)......... but up north, "chuffed" means, well, "bonked" and well is used the normal way, as in standard English.

    Southern girl went to live up north and was chatting with new work colleagues..... "I was well chuffed last night!!"

    'CHUFFER' is also part of the anatomy - as in 'up the chuffer'! :laugh:
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Oh well, that was not at all what I thought this thread was about! So disappointed :cry:

    Lol, bonking must mean something quite different in the uk

    :blushing: here too.
  • blueboxgeek
    blueboxgeek Posts: 574 Member
    Another UK gal here so "bonking against a wall" is the first thing that sprung to mind when reading this lol.

    But in answer to the OP, I think I came pretty close to it once.

    I completed the Yorkshire 3 peaks which is a 26 mile hike, over 3 mountains and should be completed in under 12 hours (10hr 40min, yay me lol).

    Somewhere half way up the second mountain I started feeling pretty pants, disorientated, dizzy, completely worn out like my muscles felt like lead.

    I wasn't hungry at all as I seem to really lose my appetite during any kind of tough workout. I kept drinking water thinking I was dehydrated but it was only when my hubby made me eat jelly babies I realised what had happened as I started feeling much better, literally within 2 minutes.

    Regular jelly babies eaten after that!
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Another UK gal here so "bonking against a wall" is the first thing that sprung to mind when reading this lol.

    But in answer to the OP, I think I came pretty close to it once.

    I completed the Yorkshire 3 peaks which is a 26 mile hike, over 3 mountains and should be completed in under 12 hours (10hr 40min, yay me lol).

    Somewhere half way up the second mountain I started feeling pretty pants, disorientated, dizzy, completely worn out like my muscles felt like lead.

    I wasn't hungry at all as I seem to really lose my appetite during any kind of tough workout. I kept drinking water thinking I was dehydrated but it was only when my hubby made me eat jelly babies I realised what had happened as I started feeling much better, literally within 2 minutes.

    Regular jelly babies eaten after that!
    Just to add to the confusion between bonking (in a fun way!) and bonking (as in the cyclist's term for glycogen depletion) you might now be confusing our American cousins with "feeling pants"!!!

    Isn't the English language wonderful? :smile:
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    Another UK gal here so "bonking against a wall" is the first thing that sprung to mind when reading this lol.

    But in answer to the OP, I think I came pretty close to it once.

    I completed the Yorkshire 3 peaks which is a 26 mile hike, over 3 mountains and should be completed in under 12 hours (10hr 40min, yay me lol).

    Somewhere half way up the second mountain I started feeling pretty pants, disorientated, dizzy, completely worn out like my muscles felt like lead.

    I wasn't hungry at all as I seem to really lose my appetite during any kind of tough workout. I kept drinking water thinking I was dehydrated but it was only when my hubby made me eat jelly babies I realised what had happened as I started feeling much better, literally within 2 minutes.

    Regular jelly babies eaten after that!
    Just to add to the confusion between bonking (in a fun way!) and bonking (as in the cyclist's term for glycogen depletion) you might now be confusing our American cousins with "feeling pants"!!!

    Isn't the English language wonderful? :smile:

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    transatlantic communications can go wrong so easily!!
  • blueboxgeek
    blueboxgeek Posts: 574 Member
    Another UK gal here so "bonking against a wall" is the first thing that sprung to mind when reading this lol.

    But in answer to the OP, I think I came pretty close to it once.

    I completed the Yorkshire 3 peaks which is a 26 mile hike, over 3 mountains and should be completed in under 12 hours (10hr 40min, yay me lol).

    Somewhere half way up the second mountain I started feeling pretty pants, disorientated, dizzy, completely worn out like my muscles felt like lead.

    I wasn't hungry at all as I seem to really lose my appetite during any kind of tough workout. I kept drinking water thinking I was dehydrated but it was only when my hubby made me eat jelly babies I realised what had happened as I started feeling much better, literally within 2 minutes.

    Regular jelly babies eaten after that!
    Just to add to the confusion between bonking (in a fun way!) and bonking (as in the cyclist's term for glycogen depletion) you might now be confusing our American cousins with "feeling pants"!!!

    Isn't the English language wonderful? :smile:

    Lol that never even occurred to me!!! The differences in language even within same country are so amusing :-)
  • acpgee
    acpgee Posts: 7,959 Member
    Apologies for slang confusion. Bumping for more stories about hitting the wall.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,227 Member
    I'm just bumping this for you. I think some people are confusing bonking and boinking. :wink:

    where I'm from bonking has a risque meaning. I've heard of boinking as well (same meaning), I think it may be a dialectual difference.

    I told one of my NZ friends that I was rooting for her. Apparently that also has a different meaning! :laugh:

    LOL

    best one I heard.... in southern UK "chuffed" means "very happy" and if you put well before an adjective, it means very, e.g. "he's well 'ard" = he's very hard (or "badass" to give a USA version of the term)......... but up north, "chuffed" means, well, "bonked" and well is used the normal way, as in standard English.

    Southern girl went to live up north and was chatting with new work colleagues..... "I was well chuffed last night!!"

    Haahaa another is "growled out". In the USA it means told off. In Australia it means... well... oral attention to the lady parts. I was sitting with an American girl at lunch one day at Uni when she told us all how embarrassed she was because her dad growled her out in public. Cue a group of horrified Australians!
  • nancytyc
    nancytyc Posts: 119 Member
    This simply is not true, and I wish you would do your REAL research before you say that the body does not run efficiently on pure fat. I am on a low carb high fat diet. An astonishingly large amount of my calories come from fat and I try diligently to keep my net carbs right at 20 g. I just finished a 30.2 mile ride at good speeds and maxing out what I could do and still be able to breathe. It was a high intensity ride up some long pulls of mountains in Colorado. I ran just fine on the fat that I ate. I did not bonk and the fact that I had almost no carbs before I rode, did not make the difference. I have learned, through my 1000's of miles of riding, that bonking tends to happen more frequently when one lets themselves get passed a certain dehydration point (which is entirely different for each person on different given days). There is something about how your body can move energy into the muscles, even the brain, when there is a fundamental lack of water volume. Now, with that said, most people, if done correctly, can live very well and healthy on low carb diets. Especially when their carbs come from green leafy vegetables, and other low carb veggies, and some moderate amounts of fruit instead of nutrient deficient carbs. I have performed very well on a 75 mile ride, maintaining 14 - 16 mph, and having eaten nearly all fat before the ride. I just started my LCHF diet, per the endocrinologist, on May 1, 2014. I have been able to go off my injectable diabetes meds, have reduced my oral meds to half, have lowered my blood pressure from extremely high to normal, have stable and normal blood sugars, and feel better than I have felt in years. I have also lost 37 pounds in 68 days. I am not putting you down for your opinion, but there are newbies on here that might be swayed from a legitimate method of losing weight, when they read posts from people who think they know, but do not have the correct information. Please take some time to read the NEW studies about carbs and fat. Apparently, the trend is saying that the doctors may have had it all wrong when the suggested high carb low fat diets. The pendulum is swinging the other way, as Americans are getting FAT on their LOW FAT diets. As we have removed fat from foods, we have replaced it with sugar to make all the low fat items taste better.....and we have a nation suffering from massive diagnosis of diabetes.

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    OP: to answer your original question - this hasn't happened to me that I can recall but it's true the human body does not run efficiently on pure fat.... not just the brain, but also the muscles. You can maintain low intensity cardio when you run out of carbs (though mental confusion can be an issue as you discovered) but anything moderate to high intensity is not possible. This is why I don't think low carb diets are a good idea for most people (there may be some exceptions) because you burn more calories and perform much better in workouts, sport, and all physical activity with carbs in your system, and exercise is very important for health. The amount of carbs people need should be adjusted according to their activity levels.
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  • klumsykunoichi
    klumsykunoichi Posts: 10
    Oh well, that was not at all what I thought this thread was about! So disappointed :cry:

    snap
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    I hit the wall during my first marathon. Disorientation and total inability to run. I was worried they'd see me staggering and pull me from the course. After stuffing down everything in sight at a great station I regained enough clarity to continue and finish. The following year I trained w/o using gels or mid run fuels and got my body used to running that way.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    This simply is not true, and I wish you would do your REAL research before you say that the body does not run efficiently on pure fat.

    Okay, would you like to go and tell the physiology lecturer at my university that he's mistaken then? Along with all the authors of physiology 101 textbooks?

    Low carb =/= running entirely on fat, nor is low fat dieting what I was talking about. Running out of all carbohydrate stores in your body is what I'm talking about. As in no sugar in the blood, and glycogen stores in the body completely depleted.

    I'm well aware that lower carb diets have their place, but they do increase the risk of becoming completely glycogen depleted when doing endurance cardio or any kind of strenuous exercise, and when that happens the body does not run as efficiently as it does when there are carbohydrates in the system, and people can and do train through this, believing they are working at maximum efficiency, when they're not. If you're not experiencing this then you are not completely exhausting all carbohydrate from your system. Probably because you eat a moderate amount of fruit. Alternatively, you could be experiencing it but pushing through it and not realising that you'd get better results in your workouts/endurance cardio of you had more carbohydrate in your system. Dehydration is a separate issue and yes that too can cause confusion and exhaustion. But that does not mean that your body is magically running at 100% efficiency when you're completely glycogen depleted. Either you're not glycogen depleted, or you're pushing through it regardless, and not performing at maximum efficiency (even though you think you might be).
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    I'm just bumping this for you. I think some people are confusing bonking and boinking. :wink:

    where I'm from bonking has a risque meaning. I've heard of boinking as well (same meaning), I think it may be a dialectual difference.

    I told one of my NZ friends that I was rooting for her. Apparently that also has a different meaning! :laugh:

    LOL

    best one I heard.... in southern UK "chuffed" means "very happy" and if you put well before an adjective, it means very, e.g. "he's well 'ard" = he's very hard (or "badass" to give a USA version of the term)......... but up north, "chuffed" means, well, "bonked" and well is used the normal way, as in standard English.

    Southern girl went to live up north and was chatting with new work colleagues..... "I was well chuffed last night!!"

    Haha! My daughter told me a joke recently where the punchline was "he thinks he's hard", and I didn't get it. I'd never heard "hard" used in the same sense as "badass", so my dirty mind was ruining the joke!

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