Here's a Suggestion for Those Who Love Cheeseburgers

CanyonTrekker

I don't see the point. I eat beef several times a week. There's nothing unhealthy about it. Kudos for spending more for bison though. I think it tastes fine but the argument that it's healthier is questionable at best.

There are peer reviewed articles that it's healthier. It's also illegal for bison to be adulterated. I do agree that it's possible for people to consume beef that is nearly as healthy if they choose wisely.

Was just making a suggestion for people with maybe too much fat in their diet or who like foods high in Omega 3s. Didn't mean for this to turn into a pi**ing contest.

Well, this is MFP, so you're going to get *all* responses :laugh: Take heart though, people will still get the benefit of your original post if they need it & are seeking answers to the right questions. No, your post won't benefit all, but will definitely help some!

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I agree, it's the internet, and everyone has an opinion. Was just sharing mine, so if anyone benefits, all the better. :happy:

geebusuk

There are peer reviewed articles that it's healthier. It's also illegal for bison to be adulterated. I do agree that it's possible for people to consume beef that is nearly as healthy if they choose wisely.

Were they tested on a like for like basis?

I found an article discussing one, but it didn't mention if a lower fat beef was used, for instance.

OkamiLavande

I prefer elk burgers. Nothing I have ever eaten has tasted better than an elk burger to me. It is the most delicious thing I have ever tried burger wise. Yes a ground beef burger still does the trick, but I'd jump at a chance for elk again.

emtjmac

In addition to being high in omega 3s, organic grass fed bison is especially high in price. I will only buy the cheapest meat available at the grocery store.

brower47

This would work for me but I don't like the flavor of bison. Give me beef and it's higher, tastier fat content any day of the week.

Also, there's nothing unhealthy about beef.:drinker:

TutuMom41

I get 93% lean ground beef from the butcher and then I put mushrooms in the food processor and mix a good amount of them into the ground beef. (I have also used zucchini and squash when making meatballs) It adds bulk with out adding fat. I find this to be delicious

CanyonTrekker

I prefer elk burgers. Nothing I have ever eaten has tasted better than an elk burger to me. It is the most delicious thing I have ever tried burger wise. Yes a ground beef burger still does the trick, but I'd jump at a chance for elk again.

I've had elk many times. I've actually had it elk fried nuggets, which were very good. I've had elk steak many times. It's a lot like bison in that it's extremely lien. Every elk steak I've had has been marinated over night, and has turned out awesome on the grill.

OkamiLavande

I prefer elk burgers. Nothing I have ever eaten has tasted better than an elk burger to me. It is the most delicious thing I have ever tried burger wise. Yes a ground beef burger still does the trick, but I'd jump at a chance for elk again.

I've had elk many times. I've actually had it elk fried nuggets, which were very good. I've had elk steak many times. It's a lot like bison in that it's extremely lien. Every elk steak I've had has been marinated over night, and has turned out awesome on the grill.

I bet that elk steak was amazing. How do you have elk fried nuggets, if you don't mind me asking? Never knew you could do such a thing. Do you grind the meat and bread it or is there some other process?

cliffshaw

Good information on different meat for cheeseburgers. I love them and my kids love them as well. Hard to beat a good 80/20 mix of beef for a good hamburger, but as pointed out for those watching their calories/fat that's a big dose of unhealthy fat. Bison burgers are great and imho better tasting than deer or elk burgers. Most of the time we opt for 93/7 hamburger or turkey burger. It cost a little bit more than the fattier hamburger mix and don't taste quite as good, but it hits the spot when burgers are on the menu. Plus I can eat 6-8 oz and not bust through my calorie or fat goals.

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Mykaelous

This is from my blog post yesterday:

"Since I had some leftovers from yesterday's grilling I decided that it would be appropriate to focus on the 320 calorie turkey burger with 42 grams of protein. This is a fairly simple meal to make with the most complicated component being the cooking of the burger itself. Basically I take a basic costco kirklands brand turkey burger which has 200 calories and 35 grams of protein put some season all, onion shavings and some crushed red pepper and smash them into the frozen burger. I will then throw it on the grill or use my trusty George foreman grill to cook it. While it is cooking depending on how I feel I may pour some Worcestershire sauce on it or a bit of Tabasco to add some more flavoring since turkey tastes fairly plain. Once it is nearly finished(it should have a nice glaze of moisture/fat covering it and slightly browned up, if it is dry you cooked it too long) I will throw a Kraft american cheese slice on it adding another 60 calories and 3 grams of protein and let that cook until until the cheese melts. while that's finishing up I will toast a piece of natures own bread adding another 50 calories and 4 grams of protein. I will then add jalapeno's, pickles, onion, tomato's and mustard before adding the burger and finally finishing it off with some lettuce on top(If you are feeling particularly hungry I would suggest going crazy with the vegetables, especially since they are good for you.). The vegetables all together would add another 10-15 calories, but I don't bother counting them because aside from being healthy, it's an insignificant(less than 10% of my daily goal) contributor to my calorie intake even when including all of my meals. If I were to include avocado I certainly would have to account for those calories(300 calories in a single avocado), but keep in mind that theres about 60 calories in an entire onion or 50 calories in an entire head of lettuce. So that's a supercharged protien meal, that tastes pretty good. Since I have calories to spare(500 calories per meal) I would normally spend them on a fruit like a banana or a yogurt."

SunofaBeach14

There are peer reviewed articles that it's healthier. It's also illegal for bison to be adulterated. I do agree that it's possible for people to consume beef that is nearly as healthy if they choose wisely.

Were they tested on a like for like basis?

I found an article discussing one, but it didn't mention if a lower fat beef was used, for instance.

One or even a handful of studies does not a conclusive proof make. If OP wants to start posting them, I'm happy to read, but I've read enough of these meat studies to know that beef is fine to eat. If that's a pissing contest, as he called it, then he needs to zip up his pants.

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CanyonTrekker

I bet that elk steak was amazing. How do you have elk fried nuggets, if you don't mind me asking? Never knew you could do such a thing. Do you grind the meat and bread it or is there some other process?

The way I've do it is to just cut bite size nuggets from the back strap, soak it in milk overnight, bread and season it and then deep fry it. Delicious. I do prefer the steaks though, and much healthier!

kayduro

I eat a lot of buffalo burgers. Not sure what the difference is between buffalo and bison, although obviously you can't wash up in a buffalo. Boom boom.

Haha! And by the way, they are the same.

CanyonTrekker

There are peer reviewed articles that it's healthier. It's also illegal for bison to be adulterated. I do agree that it's possible for people to consume beef that is nearly as healthy if they choose wisely.

Were they tested on a like for like basis?

I found an article discussing one, but it didn't mention if a lower fat beef was used, for instance.

One or even a handful of studies does not a conclusive proof make. If OP wants to start posting them, I'm happy to read, but I've read enough of these meat studies to know that beef is fine to eat. If that's a pissing contest, as he called it, then he needs to zip up his pants.
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Whoa, we got ourselves a bonafide keyboard cowboy, LOL. Easy there, tough guy. Do your own homework. There are learned treatises and journal articles on the subject that, as stated, are peer reviewed. If you don't know how to use Google Scholar, for example, then don't expect me to do your homework for you. And maybe instead of worrying about bison vs hamburger, you should have a beer and relax.

And, FWIW, I NEVER SAID beef was not fine to eat. Don't people know how to read anymore? In fact, in my first reply to you, I said it could be perfectly fine, but that bison has some advantages, such as the higher omega 3s and Vit B. Doesn't mean that lean grounded beef is not fine, and never said that. Geez dude, calm down.

JazzFischer1989

I love bison burgers, but not enough buy it in bulk. Usually if I'm in the mood for a burger (which isn't that often tbh) I just opt for turkey.

CanyonTrekker

One or even a handful of studies does not a conclusive proof make. If OP wants to start posting them, I'm happy to read, but I've read enough of these meat studies to know that beef is fine to eat. If that's a pissing contest, as he called it, then he needs to zip up his pants.

Whoa, we got ourselves a bonafide keyboard cowboy, LOL. Easy there, tough guy. Do your own homework. There are learned treatises and journal articles on the subject that, as stated, are peer reviewed. If you don't know how to use Google Scholar, for example, then don't expect me to do your homework for you. And maybe instead of worrying about bison vs hamburger, you should have a beer and relax.

And, FWIW, I NEVER SAID beef was not fine to eat. Don't people know how to read anymore? In fact, in my first reply to you, I said it could be perfectly fine, but that bison has some advantages, such as the higher omega 3s and Vit B. Also, far higher in protein and far less fat. Are you saying these are not facts? Doesn't mean that lean grounded beef is not fine, and never said that. Geez dude, calm down.

SunofaBeach14

There are peer reviewed articles that it's healthier. It's also illegal for bison to be adulterated. I do agree that it's possible for people to consume beef that is nearly as healthy if they choose wisely.

Were they tested on a like for like basis?

I found an article discussing one, but it didn't mention if a lower fat beef was used, for instance.

One or even a handful of studies does not a conclusive proof make. If OP wants to start posting them, I'm happy to read, but I've read enough of these meat studies to know that beef is fine to eat. If that's a pissing contest, as he called it, then he needs to zip up his pants.

Whoa, we got ourselves a bonafide keyboard cowboy, LOL. Easy there, tough guy. Do your own homework. There are learned treatises and journal articles on the subject that, as stated, are peer reviewed. If you don't know how to use Google Scholar, for example, then don't expect me to do your homework for you. And maybe instead of worrying about bison vs hamburger, you should have a beer and relax.

And, FWIW, I NEVER SAID beef was not fine to eat. Don't people know how to read anymore? In fact, in my first reply to you, I said it could be perfectly fine, but that bison has some advantages, such as the higher omega 3s and Vit B. Doesn't mean that lean grounded beef is not fine, and never said that. Geez dude, calm down.

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Nice. More melodrama. I've done quite a bit of my homework on this, and haven't seen anything conclusive to cause me to spend that much more per pound for bison over beef. You're the one that decided this was a "pissing contest." My post was pretty mild, and calm, especially compared to that up there. Aren't you almost 50? Time to dial it back a bit. But meh, enjoy your bison.

ETA: quotes, I fixed the quotes! Well, that and this is pretty damn silly. I think you're overspending. That's far from a pissing contest. It's a frigg'n disagreement over studies that I'm pretty sure we've both read. And, FWIW, I just popped open a good IPA. I suggest you do the same.

CanyonTrekker

For all those who love turkey, I agree it is a very healthy food. I've got a mental block for it though, since I read a couple of articles about ground turkey adulterated with turkey poop! :laugh: May be totally false, but it's in my mind now, lol

PS - Did a quick search since my credibility has been questioned by a rather passive-aggressive individual. Here's a link to an article that states over 50% of ground turkey tested had "fecal matter." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/30/ground-turkey-study-fecal-bacteria_n_3186285.html

CanyonTrekker

Nice. More melodrama. I've done quite a bit of my homework on this, and haven't seen anything conclusive to cause me to spend that much more per pound for bison over beef. You're the one that decided this was a "pissing contest." My post was pretty mild, and calm, especially compared to that up there. Aren't you almost 50? Time to dial it back a bit. But meh, enjoy your bison.

ETA: quotes, I fixed the quotes! Well, that and this is pretty damn silly. I think you're overspending. That's far from a pissing contest. It's a frigg'n disagreement over studies that I'm pretty sure we've both read. And, FWIW, I just popped open a good IPA. I suggest you do the same.

Alright, not going to bicker with you. As I said before, lean ground beef is fine. I like the the benefits of bison that I stated in original post. You don't see enough of an advantage, and you prefer beef. Fair enough, to each his own.

CanyonTrekker

PS - Enjoy the brew, and I'm jealous. Would love one, but trying to be pretty strict with my diet until I hit my goal weight. Cheers :drinker:

SunofaBeach14

PS - Enjoy the brew, and I'm jealous. Would love one, but trying to be pretty strict with my diet until I hit my goal weight. Cheers :drinker:

Cheers. If you're hiking and climbing like that it won't take long to get there. :drinker:

HappyHope0123

Honestly never had buffalo! Guess I'll have to save my change to buy some...some day. Here, we get a lot of moose and deer. I don't care for the deer ground up, but the moose is pretty good!

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love2lift_85

I've actually never had bison, but I'll look for it next time I'm at the store. Sounds yummy and like a good alternative to cut out some fat.

geebusuk

Do your own homework. There are learned treatises and journal articles on the subject that, as stated, are peer reviewed. If you don't know how to use Google Scholar, for example, then don't expect me to do your homework for you.

Or.... if you want to make claims that something is healthier* be prepared to back it up or be called out on it when you don't.

* That phrase pricks my ears up because I consider it pretty silly - personally I don't think 'healthy' can be applied to specific foods, but to a life style as a whole, because different foods, exercises and so on will suit different people's goals differently.
A man that eats a lot of fish and wants to gain muscle may have plenty of Omega 3, but could do with some more saturated fat to improve testosterone** and bump calories up.

** Though from what I've been reading recently, likely it won't make much difference to results unless you're taking appropriate special preperations.

Aaron_K123

Here is my advice for those who love cheeseburgers. Eat a cheeseburger, then go for a nice long walk.