If its just CICO, why "clean" food and no white carbs?

AnswerzPwease
AnswerzPwease Posts: 142 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
NOT trying to start a fight. Please don't. I honestly just don't know the answer - I'm new to a lot of this.

I am doing CICO. However, i'm a little confused why were told to eat "clean" foods and no white rice, white bread etc and use whole grain if it's just CICO.

If it's just CICO, shouldn't it not matter whether its from a bowl of white rice topped with a white potato, and garnished with white bread as long as youre in a caloric deficit?
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  • JoeCampbell85
    JoeCampbell85 Posts: 140
    As far as weight loss, it doesn't matter. Clean food usually allows you to eat more and feel more satiated afterwords. White bread is not very filling in the long run a cup of broccoli is. Ok, that's an exaggeration. I don't think a cup of broccoli is filling but the fiber in it will help you feel full longer when compared to a slice of bread.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    You can eat white foods. You don't have to eat clean.
  • Supertact
    Supertact Posts: 466 Member
    Eat whatever you want
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    It is better for your health to have nutrients first, treats second, but you will lose either way if you eat in a deficit.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    For weight loss: calorie deficit
    For different body composition: different macro nutrient ratios
    For overall health: meeting vitamin and mineral needs

    Less important factors that don't affect the above:
    Clean eating (other regimented style of diet): personal preference
    Food avoidance: personal preference
    Meal timing: personal preference
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    I eat food of all colours. Some even may not have been washed recently
  • AnswerzPwease
    AnswerzPwease Posts: 142 Member
    For weight loss: calorie deficit
    For different body composition: different macro nutrient ratios
    For overall health: meeting vitamin and mineral needs

    Less important factors that don't affect the above:
    Clean eating (other regimented style of diet): personal preference
    Food avoidance: personal preference
    Meal timing: personal preference

    Different macro ratios will result in a different body composition????
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    For weight loss: calorie deficit
    For different body composition: different macro nutrient ratios
    For overall health: meeting vitamin and mineral needs

    Less important factors that don't affect the above:
    Clean eating (other regimented style of diet): personal preference
    Food avoidance: personal preference
    Meal timing: personal preference

    Different macro ratios will result in a different body composition????

    You can't maintain muscle on a calorie deficit without the right levels of protein (and the right type of muscle retention exercises), that sort of thing.
  • ihad
    ihad Posts: 7,463 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/mfp-101-calories-macros-and-micros-617211
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    It is better for your health to have nutrients first, treats second, but you will lose either way if you eat in a deficit.

    This is true, but I think it's also important to point out that white foods and foods that are generally considered less clean can fit into that first category of "nutrients first" at times.
  • Supertact
    Supertact Posts: 466 Member
    You've been eating whatever you want to become fat, so doing anything will improve your health. Even if it's eating less crap.
  • AnswerzPwease
    AnswerzPwease Posts: 142 Member
    For weight loss: calorie deficit
    For different body composition: different macro nutrient ratios
    For overall health: meeting vitamin and mineral needs

    Less important factors that don't affect the above:
    Clean eating (other regimented style of diet): personal preference
    Food avoidance: personal preference
    Meal timing: personal preference

    Different macro ratios will result in a different body composition????

    You can't maintain muscle on a calorie deficit without the right levels of protein (and the right type of muscle retention exercises), that sort of thing.

    Oh gotcha.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    In.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,150 Member
    You can eat white foods. You don't have to eat clean.
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  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    As long as you don't have a medical condition which would prevent certain foods then eat whatever you want as long as you stay within you caloric goals and macros..... I eat white foods daily has never hurt my weightloss..... Best of Luck
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    People that say to eat "clean" foods and no white rice, white bread etc, without context, are pretty much making incorrect blanket generalizations - which will invariably be incorrect most of the time.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
    What's wrong with white asparagus?*


    * you can ask this with just about all of the silly rules and get the same answer, "nothing." Stick with a moderate calorie deficit, eating enough fruit and vegetables to get your micronutrient needs, hitting your protein and fat macros, and getting sufficient fiber.
  • CMB1979
    CMB1979 Posts: 588 Member
    You can eat white foods. You don't have to eat clean.

    Indeed.

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  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    It doesn't matter. But vague terminology is the basis for most sales in the fitness and diet industry - tone is another example.
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  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    NOT trying to start a fight. Please don't.

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  • pipertargaryen
    pipertargaryen Posts: 303 Member
    I'm just replying because I see this come up a lot, and I'm going to point to my ticker.

    6 months, approximately 1.92lbs per week (very healthy). I do not eat clean. I make healthy choices when I can, but there is occasional pasta and white bread and processed food. And I've been fine.
  • _Resolve_
    _Resolve_ Posts: 735 Member
    Ill bite

    is it CICO: Yes, absolutely. If you eat less and move more you will lose weight.

    I eat a "primal" diet, I do it for several reasons but the biggest reason is because I am a type 2 diabetic and I find it easier to control my blood sugar while eating no processed carbs. With that said do I think everyone has to eat like this? No not at all, everyone has to choose what they feel is best for themselves, there is no right way or wrong way to do it; the only thing that you have to do to lose weight is eat your correct calories.

    Just my .02
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,092 Member
    NOT trying to start a fight. Please don't. I honestly just don't know the answer - I'm new to a lot of this.

    I am doing CICO. However, i'm a little confused why were told to eat "clean" foods and no white rice, white bread etc and use whole grain if it's just CICO.

    If it's just CICO, shouldn't it not matter whether its from a bowl of white rice topped with a white potato, and garnished with white bread as long as youre in a caloric deficit?
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    Depends on WHO you're hearing it from. I wouldn't tell you to do it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • HeidiCooksSupper
    HeidiCooksSupper Posts: 3,831 Member
    I love all the soft white foods but why they are often said to be something to avoid is that they are more likely to be packed with simple carbohydrates that are processed very rapidly by the body and can cause excessive insulin spikes.

    The browner versions (e.g. brown rice, whole grain bread) include more complex carbohydrates and fiber and are digested more slowly and are less likely to cause the same insulin spikes.

    As more research is being done, more is being learned about the importance of eating whole grains over processed grains with the bran removed and whole fruits and vegetables over juices.

    For more information and citations for related articles and research reports see http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/health-gains-from-whole-grains/
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    obviously you are hearing different things because you're hearing them from different sources. It's not like the clean eating people have the same opinions are calories in/calories out people.

    Just find what works for you and stick with it
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    In.

    Me too...I just love reading these threads to find out what I am doing wrong. You know...like eating the wrong color of food...OR...not cooking my eggs the right way in order to lose weight.

    So...I am...IN!
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    IN......for insulin fairies and GI index
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,150 Member
    In.

    Me too...I just love reading these threads to find out what I am doing wrong. You know...like eating the wrong color of food...OR...not cooking my eggs the right way in order to lose weight.

    So...I am...IN!

    As long as you're cooking your eggs, that's the right way. I only like raw eggs in cookie dough.
  • Supertact
    Supertact Posts: 466 Member
    as long as you don't have condishuns and can handle your sugahs.

    For weight loss eat anything you want while maintaining a deficit.

    If you want to be/feel healthy eat a balanced diet while maintaining a deficit.

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