Calorie deficit question

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  • emtjmac
    emtjmac Posts: 1,320 Member
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    If you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. Speaking strictly about weight loss, it doesn't matter where those calories come from. If all you eat is junk food however, you may find that you feel like crap most of the time. Most people have found success by striking a balance between nutrient dense foods and treats. Stay within your calories, exercise, and experiment with different foods. Keep an eye on the scale and adjust accordingly.
  • Angelica0530
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    If you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. Speaking strictly about weight loss, it doesn't matter where those calories come from. If all you eat is junk food however, you may find that you feel like crap most of the time. Most people have found success by striking a balance between nutrient dense foods and treats. Stay within your calories, exercise, and experiment with different foods. Keep an eye on the scale and adjust accordingly.

    Helpful and appreciated. Thanks.
  • Ksh1055
    Ksh1055 Posts: 248 Member
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    Sorry you couldn't find what you're looking for on the MFP site, but this is directed specifically for those following a weight loss and exercise regime and are totally focused on losing weight. I also believe if you are doing Weight Watchers, they are your best source of information.

    There is an old saying "You are what you eat".
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Maybe do more than skim. It answered your questions quite thoroughly. It would take the same amount of time (if not less) reading it and figuring things out than waiting for people to thoroughly explain exactly the same thing as the link.

    For example, you were asking about types of food and if, basically, calories were just calories.

    From the link:
    "1. Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline. "

    "An aside on food selection

    I am a firm believer in moderation. However, if you're the type that can't have a serving of potato chips without eating two bags of potato chips then it stands to reason that you may not be able to practice moderation with potato chips. I concede that for some people, elimination of some things, even if temporary, could be a viable short term strategy while you learn to apply moderation. That being said, I think "most" people will do very well using a food selection strategy where somewhere around 80% of their diet consists of whole and nutrient dense foods with the other 20% consisting of whatever you prefer.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/817188-iifym

    Yes, health is important and you should be looking to consume a lot of nutrient dense foods in your diet. But this doesn't mean you can't also have a pop tart or some ice cream. Going from fat to not fat is very likely to significantly improve your health. "

    There's more of course. But up to you to decide to actually put in a little effort.
  • willrun4bagels
    willrun4bagels Posts: 838 Member
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    Methinks OP is just really hangry...

    Here's some advice. Stop skimming over the useful links posted by others that have given their time to answer your question, and put what you've read into practice and see how it works for yourself. No one called you any names. "Ungrateful" is an adjective...
  • emtjmac
    emtjmac Posts: 1,320 Member
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    If you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. Speaking strictly about weight loss, it doesn't matter where those calories come from. If all you eat is junk food however, you may find that you feel like crap most of the time. Most people have found success by striking a balance between nutrient dense foods and treats. Stay within your calories, exercise, and experiment with different foods. Keep an eye on the scale and adjust accordingly.

    Helpful and appreciated. Thanks.

    I do care about people finding success.
  • Angelica0530
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    Words matter. Given your assertion that you have suffered from name-calling, I would have expected to have seen several nouns used in lieu of your name or the term OP. However, as mentioned before, the one word you could cite, ungrateful, is indeed an adjective. It is a descriptor, not a substitute for a person, place or thing.

    Also, from your profile, I see you mention you are going to follow Weight Watchers and not log on here. If this is the case, then what is the purpose of your post in the first place? If it is idle curiosity, fine. But remember (and this is really important, so you might want to read this an least twice) - you posted in a public forum. Which means we can respond however we want as long as we comply with the terms of service of MFP.

    I have seen no violation of the terms of service. I think it might well be time for you to get over yourself and move along.

    I would point out that being called ungrateful and saying my actions are ungrateful are two different things. Just like being called stupid and being told your actions are stupid. I was being called ungrateful, although the poster may have intended to characterize my actions as such instead.

    The purpose of my post is I want to know if I use up a lot of WW points on sweets will it affect my weight loss rate even if I don't use up all my allotted points. You can respond however you want, but that doesn't mean you need to be rude. I guess you can be rude, it would just be the decent thing to do to not be is all.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
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    Another OP who has instantly destroyed her reputation. Best of luck.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Actually, that link is very valuable. The information it provides is how I've lost all of my weight so far.

    It also contains the answer to your question: "Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline."

    In other words, to lose weight, you need to eat at the appropriate calorie deficit. To meet your body's nutritional requirements, aim for a balanced diet, and don't be afraid to leave some room for treats. That link will also tell you exactly how to determine what your body's caloric and nutritional requirements are for your goals.

    Actually, that doesn't answer my question of whether certain foods will slow down weight loss despite still having a calorie deficit. Also it's just one person's opinion, as he admits, and I'm interested in getting multiple opinions and perhaps even personal experience hence why I posted on this FORUM.

    If this thread annoys you so much because part of the questions raised here were very summarily answered in that one post, you don't have to open it.

    You'll find the link to be one of the most suggested to read amongst the community because it contains the info you were looking for and more. The ETP group (which Sidesteel is part of) has actually been recognized and recommended by MFP themselves. It's actually stickied on the Getting Started forum as well.

    But for more info/links:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1214490-the-wisdom-of-trogalicious?page=1#posts-19000763

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/05/24/undiet-your-diet/

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1122891-9-reasons-fat-loss-is-always-slower-than-you-d-like

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1105036-article-on-flexible-dieting-by-armi-legge?page=1#posts-17068746

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/the-myth-of-good-and-bad-foods-by-eric-helms-588801
  • Angelica0530
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    If you're not eating healthy and following the guidelines/instructions given you, you will NOT lose any significant weight. You can eat junk foods all day and expect a miracle. It's impossible, to say nothing about having to start and continue an exercise routine at least 5 days a week.

    It just sounds to me like you want everyone to agree with your choices and those who are seriously committed to losing weight will not agree.

    . . . . and why you feel the need to argue and denigrate others online shows a total lack of commitment/dedication to change your eating habits as instructed, while some us have that motivation.

    Goodness. I'm not looking for everyone to agree with my choices. I was merely asking a hypothetical and looking for personal experience. It's a little presumptuous of you to characterize my commitment when you don't really know anything about what I've been doing or eating. I didn't say anywhere that all I do is eat junkfood all day and I want someone to tell me that it's OK.
  • Ksh1055
    Ksh1055 Posts: 248 Member
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    The bottom line is YES eating junk food will slow down your weight loss or even cause a gain. Eating the low carb/high protein foods using portion control and drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day is the only way you'll lose any weight. Along with that you must also start an exercise regime at least 5 days a week.

    Those that say they eat cake, cookies, donuts, chocolate every day haven't seemed to have lost any significant weight - so why listen to them.

    Contact a nutritionist and ask a professional what you should and should not be eating.:smile:
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
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  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,725 Member
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    If none of us are telling you what you want to hear you can visit a nutritionist. Instead of telling each individual that responds that we failed to answer your question, the polite thing to do would be to scroll past it and ignore it.

    QFT

    WTF

    :angry:
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
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    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Actually, that link is very valuable. The information it provides is how I've lost all of my weight so far.

    It also contains the answer to your question: "Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline."

    In other words, to lose weight, you need to eat at the appropriate calorie deficit. To meet your body's nutritional requirements, aim for a balanced diet, and don't be afraid to leave some room for treats. That link will also tell you exactly how to determine what your body's caloric and nutritional requirements are for your goals.

    Actually, that doesn't answer my question of whether certain foods will slow down weight loss despite still having a calorie deficit. Also it's just one person's opinion, as he admits, and I'm interested in getting multiple opinions and perhaps even personal experience hence why I posted on this FORUM.

    If this thread annoys you so much because part of the questions raised here were very summarily answered in that one post, you don't have to open it.

    You'll find the link to be one of the most suggested to read amongst the community because it contains the info you were looking for and more. The ETP group (which Sidesteel is part of) has actually been recognized and recommended by MFP themselves. It's actually stickied on the Getting Started forum as well.

    But for more info/links:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1214490-the-wisdom-of-trogalicious?page=1#posts-19000763

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/05/24/undiet-your-diet/

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1122891-9-reasons-fat-loss-is-always-slower-than-you-d-like

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1105036-article-on-flexible-dieting-by-armi-legge?page=1#posts-17068746

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/the-myth-of-good-and-bad-foods-by-eric-helms-588801

    According to OP, why would you post links instead of just taking the time to answer the question? Seriously, the not-rude thing to do would've been to paraphrase each one of the links in your own words, albeit giving the exact same advice, and then bow several times as you walk backwards out of the room.
  • Angelica0530
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    Well I've had enough for tonight so thank you to those who were helpful.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    Words matter. Given your assertion that you have suffered from name-calling, I would have expected to have seen several nouns used in lieu of your name or the term OP. However, as mentioned before, the one word you could cite, ungrateful, is indeed an adjective. It is a descriptor, not a substitute for a person, place or thing.

    Also, from your profile, I see you mention you are going to follow Weight Watchers and not log on here. If this is the case, then what is the purpose of your post in the first place? If it is idle curiosity, fine. But remember (and this is really important, so you might want to read this an least twice) - you posted in a public forum. Which means we can respond however we want as long as we comply with the terms of service of MFP.

    I have seen no violation of the terms of service. I think it might well be time for you to get over yourself and move along.

    I would point out that being called ungrateful and saying my actions are ungrateful are two different things. Just like being called stupid and being told your actions are stupid. I was being called ungrateful, although the poster may have intended to characterize my actions as such instead.

    The purpose of my post is I want to know if I use up a lot of WW points on sweets will it affect my weight loss rate even if I don't use up all my allotted points. You can respond however you want, but that doesn't mean you need to be rude. I guess you can be rude, it would just be the decent thing to do to not be is all.

    Umm...You want to know about WW points you should probably ask people on the WW site. It doesn't make sense to try to figure out one method of weight loss to another when they don't use the same set up, tools, etc.
  • RabbitLost
    RabbitLost Posts: 333 Member
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    Well I've had enough for tonight so thank you to those who were helpful.

    You are quite welcome. Anytime now.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
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    The bottom line is YES eating junk food will slow down your weight loss or even cause a gain. Eating the low carb/high protein foods using portion control and drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day is the only way you'll lose any weight. Along with that you must also start an exercise regime at least 5 days a week.

    Those that say they eat cake, cookies, donuts, chocolate every day haven't seemed to have lost any significant weight - so why listen to them.

    Contact a nutritionist and ask a professional what you should and should not be eating.:smile:
    There are people who've lost over 100 pounds who say that. I say it and I'm losing 3.5 pounds a week.

    A deficit is a deficit.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Actually, that link is very valuable. The information it provides is how I've lost all of my weight so far.

    It also contains the answer to your question: "Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline."

    In other words, to lose weight, you need to eat at the appropriate calorie deficit. To meet your body's nutritional requirements, aim for a balanced diet, and don't be afraid to leave some room for treats. That link will also tell you exactly how to determine what your body's caloric and nutritional requirements are for your goals.

    Actually, that doesn't answer my question of whether certain foods will slow down weight loss despite still having a calorie deficit. Also it's just one person's opinion, as he admits, and I'm interested in getting multiple opinions and perhaps even personal experience hence why I posted on this FORUM.

    If this thread annoys you so much because part of the questions raised here were very summarily answered in that one post, you don't have to open it.

    You'll find the link to be one of the most suggested to read amongst the community because it contains the info you were looking for and more. The ETP group (which Sidesteel is part of) has actually been recognized and recommended by MFP themselves. It's actually stickied on the Getting Started forum as well.

    But for more info/links:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1214490-the-wisdom-of-trogalicious?page=1#posts-19000763

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/05/24/undiet-your-diet/

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1122891-9-reasons-fat-loss-is-always-slower-than-you-d-like

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1105036-article-on-flexible-dieting-by-armi-legge?page=1#posts-17068746

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/the-myth-of-good-and-bad-foods-by-eric-helms-588801

    According to OP, why would you post links instead of just taking the time to answer the question? Seriously, the not-rude thing to do would've been to paraphrase each one of the links in your own words, albeit giving the exact same advice, and then bow several times as you walk backwards out of the room.

    In all honesty, it's more for the lurkers.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    The bottom line is YES eating junk food will slow down your weight loss or even cause a gain. Eating the low carb/high protein foods using portion control and drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day is the only way you'll lose any weight. Along with that you must also start an exercise regime at least 5 days a week.

    Those that say they eat cake, cookies, donuts, chocolate every day haven't seemed to have lost any significant weight - so why listen to them.

    Contact a nutritionist and ask a professional what you should and should not be eating.:smile:
    There are people who've lost over 100 pounds who say that. I say it and I'm losing 3.5 pounds a week.

    A deficit is a deficit.

    Magerum and Trogalicious lost 100+lbs while eating sweets. Ed (an MFP mod) lost over 300lbs and still eats sweets and such. But I guess they were doing it wrong? I'm down 55lbs myself but I guess that doesn't count, right? *eats some chocolate*

    :huh:

    :laugh: