GMOs Scary or not?
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While at university I would often talk to organic chemist, biologists, and medical professionals and they all called BS on the GMO scare. The consensus was that there is a possibility for there to be negative side effects, but the should be handled on a case by case basis instead of casting a shadow on the entire industry.0
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While at university I would often talk to organic chemist, biologists, and medical professionals and they all called BS on the GMO scare. The consensus was that there is a possibility for there to be negative side effects, but the should be handled on a case by case basis instead of casting a shadow on the entire industry.
This is my stance as well. I don't believe that being GM produced makes something unsafe however I also don't believe that being GM produced guarantees safety either.
Its just a manufacturing method, nothing more...nothing less.0 -
OK, if you live in Colorado or Washington state, would you smoke GMO Marijuana? ;-)0
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OK, if you live in Colorado or Washington state, would you smoke GMO Marijuana? ;-)
I truly love this one. It's even better than the girl worried about soy, but drinking whiskey. Humans are really awful at risk analysis.0 -
GMO or not boils down to your opinions on genocide.0
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GMO or not boils down to your opinions on genocide.
Okay I am going to have to ask you to explain that one. Wasn't expecting a GMO discussion to go full Godwin.
Personally I think GM is a great tool with a lot of potential but I typically frown on genocide as being not a good thing. For example i feel that the GM of e. coli to produce human insulin which made treatment for type 1 diabeties vastly safer and cheaper to be a good thing while i'd consider the holocaust to be a bad thing.
Did I get it right? Why are we comparing these two things again?0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.
A formal education, or something I researched on the internets?
I have a BS in Biology, actually.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.
A formal education or, something I researched on the internets?
I have a BS in Biology, actually.
Great. Congratulations on your bachelors. Now go get an education.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.
A formal education or, something I researched on the internets?
I have a BS in Biology, actually.
Great. Congratulations on your bachelors. Now go get an education.
You still haven't said anything to defend your attack on me, and I doubt you will, as I haven't seen you say anything meaningful in this entire thread. Bravo.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.
A formal education or, something I researched on the internets?
I have a BS in Biology, actually.
Great. Congratulations on your bachelors. Now go get an education.
You still haven't said anything to defend your attack on me, and I doubt you will, as I haven't seen you say anything meaningful in this entire thread. Bravo.
Attack? How much experience with hunger do you have? Have you ever worked in a disaster area or blighted country? You can make general statements about there being plenty of food in the world all you want, but logistics is a very real issue, and increasing nutritional content of food and delivering it to those in need is more than a simple arm chair project.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.
A formal education or, something I researched on the internets?
I have a BS in Biology, actually.
Great. Congratulations on your bachelors. Now go get an education.
You still haven't said anything to defend your attack on me, and I doubt you will, as I haven't seen you say anything meaningful in this entire thread. Bravo.
Attack? How much experience with hunger do you have? Have you ever worked in a disaster area or blighted country? You can make general statements about there being plenty of food in the world all you want, but logistics is a very real issue, and increasing nutritional content of food and delivering it to those in need is more than a simple arm chair project.
Huh? I pretty much said the EXACT SAME THING. Maybe you should go back to school, ESL classes perhaps??0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.
A formal education or, something I researched on the internets?
I have a BS in Biology, actually.
Great. Congratulations on your bachelors. Now go get an education.
You still haven't said anything to defend your attack on me, and I doubt you will, as I haven't seen you say anything meaningful in this entire thread. Bravo.
Attack? How much experience with hunger do you have? Have you ever worked in a disaster area or blighted country? You can make general statements about there being plenty of food in the world all you want, but logistics is a very real issue, and increasing nutritional content of food and delivering it to those in need is more than a simple arm chair project.
Huh? I pretty much said the EXACT SAME THING. Maybe you should go back to school, ESL classes perhaps??
If you think we said the same thing then you really are beyond help. I'm sorry your professors failed you.0 -
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.
Best of luck solving problems that your obviously don't give a **** about from your armchair. Get an education. It helps.
A formal education or, something I researched on the internets?
I have a BS in Biology, actually.
Great. Congratulations on your bachelors. Now go get an education.
You still haven't said anything to defend your attack on me, and I doubt you will, as I haven't seen you say anything meaningful in this entire thread. Bravo.
Attack? How much experience with hunger do you have? Have you ever worked in a disaster area or blighted country? You can make general statements about there being plenty of food in the world all you want, but logistics is a very real issue, and increasing nutritional content of food and delivering it to those in need is more than a simple arm chair project.
Huh? I pretty much said the EXACT SAME THING. Maybe you should go back to school, ESL classes perhaps??
If you think we said the same thing then you really are beyond help. I'm sorry your professors failed you.
She was saying that issues of world hunger have more to do with logistics of delivering nutrition to starving people than the ability of the world to grow enough food to sustain the current population.
I think he was objecting to the notion that this somehow renders GMO food production useless. GM based fortification of say rice with additional protein yield could, for example, reduce logistical cost by bringing the needed weight of transported food to supply adequate nutrition down.
Personally I don't feel knowledgeable enough to comment on food transport logistics to developing nations. I can believe that world hunger is more of a logistical issue than a pure crop yield issue but I also view handwaving away the usefulness of GM on this basis to be a bit shortsighted about the possible beneficial applications of such a powerful tool.0 -
I'm curious as to what some of you think about genetically modified seeds and foods? Are they harmful or benign? Or do we not have enough information at this point to decide?
Depends, you scared brah?
Or are you one of them damn dirty pollinators?0 -
that type of testing is a joke because it does not allow to determine long term effects
So yes you can eat them and you dont die; PASSED
What will happen in 150 years to human body: speculation
Which is why we wait 150 years before using any newly developed product. Oh wait, no...we don't...that would be ridiculous.
Whatever GMO's or anything else do to my human body in 150 years doesn't bother me.
Anything that isn't going to have an effect in the next 50 years (and that is being optimistic) does not matter.0 -
You would think reading this would be eye opening to people. Seeing that the very person who helped start the Anti-GMO movement regrets ever doing it. Seeing that when you look at the facts you realize not only should you not be scared, but a lot of great and important work is being done.
Nope. The next two comments are still, "I don't fully understand it, therefore bad."
Actually the next two comments (page 3) were about not trusting the manufacturers that produced and tested GMO foods.0 -
Whereas you did explain or defend your bald assertion?
I am also weary of the "world hunger" argument. There is no lack of food leading to hunger at the moment, there are poor distribution channels to particular parts of the world because the people there lack the income to support such channels. GMOs won't increase those people's incomes.
THIS I very much agree with. There is no shortage of food in the world, only a lack of ability or desire to get it to those who need it.
Wow. Just wow. This is why cluelessness kills.
Well, just making a snarky insult with no explanation or defense makes me respect your point of view immensely.0 -
Not scary.0
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Crops and food have been genetically modified since the dawn of agriculture. Have you seen any problems yet?
Not in a lab they haven't. There is a big difference between GMO seeds and hybrid seeds.
Hybrid Seeds: What are they?
Farmers and gardeners have been cultivating new plant varieties for thousands of years through selective breeding. They did this by cross-pollinating two different, but related plants over 6 to 10 plant generations, eventually creating a new plant variety.
The process required patience, but was rewarding. By selectively cross-pollinating related plants in this way, farmers could create varieties that were healthier and stood up to the farmer’s micro-climate — their soil, their weather patterns, their predatory insects.
Yet in the mid-nineteenth century, Darwin and Mendel discovered a method of controlled crossing that can create these desired traits within just one generation. This method produces what’s known as F1 hybrid seeds.
These hybrid seeds are just as natural as their historic counterparts; they’re still cross-pollinating two different, but related plants.
GMO Seeds: What are they?
Unlike hybrid seeds, GMO seeds are not created using natural, low-tech methods. GMO seed varieties are created in a lab using high-tech and sophisticated techniques like gene-splicing.
Furthermore, GMO seeds seldom cross different, but related plants. Often the cross goes far beyond the bounds of nature so that instead of crossing two different, but related varieties of plant, they are crossing different biological kingdoms — like, say, a bacteria with a plant.
For example, Monsanto has crossed genetic material from a bacteria known as Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis) with corn. The goal was to create a pest-resistant plant. This means that any pests attempting to eat the corn plant will die since the pesticide is part of every cell of the plant.
The resultant GMO plant, known as Bt Corn, is itself registered as a pesticide with the EPA, along with other GMO Bt crops. In other words, if you feed this corn to your cattle, your chickens, or yourself, you’ll be feeding them an actual pesticide — not just a smidgeon of pesticide residue.
While you can re-harvest the hybrid seeds, the next generation of plant is inconsistent. You can not, however, re-harvest the GMO seeds.0 -
You would think reading this would be eye opening to people. Seeing that the very person who helped start the Anti-GMO movement regrets ever doing it. Seeing that when you look at the facts you realize not only should you not be scared, but a lot of great and important work is being done.
Nope. The next two comments are still, "I don't fully understand it, therefore bad."
Actually the next two comments (page 3) were about not trusting the manufacturers that produced and tested GMO foods.
Thats fine. People may have legitimate reasons to not trust the business practices of specific companies. But how does that translate to distrust of GM itself? I get anti-Monsanto, I don't get anti-GM.
If you have a beef with Monsanto, their patents or their business practices then make it about that.0 -
"We grow tired of peas, Brother Mendel"0
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GMOS are HEAVILY regulated in Europe and many ,MANY are banned. That should say something about them
And for example , the growth hormone used in North America on their meat is still 100% banned in Europe.
England tried to ban internet porn. I no longer have faith in Europe's ability to make logical decisions.0 -
Really ? This is where you take information regarding the food you put in your body.The author's bio...
"He has a high-school equivalency diploma and a 2-year technical degree in both computer repair and software development. During his technical training, he was offered the chance to take a critical thinking course. "
Yes, thats commonly the type of background of the people acting like they know something and writing opinions on an issue they have no experience in, probably paid to back opinions favorable to producing company $$
The point is, we have a right to know whats in our food, nothing has to be "horrible" going into it, we just have a right to know. "Everythings been fine so far, blindly trust the corporations" is idiocy.0 -
Really ? This is where you take information regarding the food you put in your body.The author's bio...
"He has a high-school equivalency diploma and a 2-year technical degree in both computer repair and software development. During his technical training, he was offered the chance to take a critical thinking course. "
Yes, thats commonly the type of background of the people acting like they know something and writing opinions on an issue they have no experience in, probably paid to back opinions favorable to producing company $$
The point is, we have a right to know whats in our food, nothing has to be "horrible" going into it, we just have a right to know. "Everythings been fine so far, blindly trust the corporations" is idiocy.
Thanks for joining us, I think you missed a few posts.
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Another one who's been brainwashed by the fitness industry. lol0
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