Low carb high protein ? high carb low fat ? I AM LOST !

menojy
menojy Posts: 92 Member
after one year being on the high protein low carb diet and it worked fine (maintained or tried to maintain for 1 year and dieting again now)
I just saw some videos on youtube basically attacking this lifestyle and recommending high carb low fat diets, because as the girl said low carbs leave your body hungry for it and people who go low carb usually double on carbs after the diet and gain back all the weight ! it's also said that one should not cut calories so much and just be patient rather than cutting to get quick results . if cutting means going on a 1200 calorie diet then what's not cutting 1400 ? 1500 ? 1700 ?? and still lose weight ? I don't really get this.

I feel lost of what's better for my body .. I do feel fatigue while on low carb, and when I tried to maintain the last year I gained back about 8 lbs, that made me think that may be she's right and I am doing something wrong .. hmmm


I just need to know the truth provided with some real results
I am also lifting hoping to strengthen my muscles so I don't know where that goes in the whole low fat low protein diet ..

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  • takumaku
    takumaku Posts: 352 Member
    If it fits in your macro. Calorie in, calorie out. Eat less than what you need, you drop weight. Eat more than what you need, you gain weight. There is no magic formula or diet.
  • robertf57
    robertf57 Posts: 560 Member
    The sad fact is that people on diets tend to gain back their weight whether they used a low carb method or they used a high carb low fat method. Empiric data suggests those who are insulin resistant particularily benefit from a low carb approach; but you will get the zealots in here pretty quick to give you opinions.

    If you want to be successful, you really can't be on a diet. You need to change your lifestyle and not look at it as a diet in the traditional temporary view.
  • curlygirl513
    curlygirl513 Posts: 199 Member
    Do what works for you. You might find you feel tired on either diet, or you might find you have more energy on one versus the other. Also, do what you like.

    My personal preference is a plant based diet. I turned vegan and cut out sugar and eat whole foods most of the time. The dignity and pleasure of having choice is yours.

    Since you are interested in trying out a different food plan, what is the harm in trying it for a while? You can always go back. And personally, I think lots of different ways to eat work just fine.

    Just curious, have you been to see a doctor while you have been low carb? Did you get labs done and did they improve?

    I got a bad lab report from the doctor and it instigated my commitment to finally change. I know I will see good results on the cholesterol triglyceride tests from my change of diet.

    I'm wondering how people do on the low carb when it comes to cholesterol tryglycerides.
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    Let me correct you first, low carbohydrate diets do not include high protein. Eating too much protein on these diets causes gluconeogensis; which is basically proteins broken down into amino acids into glucose. This is why you only have MODERATE protein, high fat and low carbohydrates.

    Secondly, low carbers tend to put on a lot of weight after coming off the diet. If you're lost on this, just eat healthy and under your TDEE whilst exercising and you'll lose weight. Low carbing does not offer any other weight loss benefits; it has a lot of side effects which are actually deterring.
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    The sad fact is that people on diets tend to gain back their weight whether they used a low carb method or they used a high carb low fat method. Empiric data suggests those who are insulin resistant particularily benefit from a low carb approach; but you will get the zealots in here pretty quick to give you opinions.

    If you want to be successful, you really can't be on a diet. You need to change your lifestyle and not look at it as a diet in the traditional temporary view.

    :heart: Very well put!
    I'm on a low carb/high fat diet. For me, it's not a diet, it's the life I need to live. So I adjusted & became accustomed to my new normal & found a way to make this a sustained effort. I've been at it since last April.

    This sort of eating plan may not be for you. Only you can answer that question & make any lifestyle you choose work for you.
    Good luck :drinker:
  • curlygirl513
    curlygirl513 Posts: 199 Member
    Good thing I made a lifestyle change. :)
  • ge105
    ge105 Posts: 268 Member
    Do whatever satisfies you most. Eat the food you love and can stick with forever. If you don't feel good on low carb- eat some carbs. Experiment until you find a diet that suits you, makes you feel good and is easy to maintain. Simple as that.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    IMO it comes down to a few factors. Mainly, activity levels, type of activities and insulin sensitivity.

    The more activity your have the higher your calorie needs to maintain weight. Carbs are your bodies first choice for energy so higher needs if this is the case.

    The majority of people who do resistance training seem to perform better on a higher carb/lower fat diet. (assuming adequate protein in both cases)

    Endurance athletes also tend to favour higher carb diets.

    If you are insulin sensitive then a higher carb diet should be your choice.
    If you are insulin resistant then a lower carb diet would be a better choice.

    You can increase your insulin sensitivity by reducing carbs, exercising (namely resistance training and high intensity training (if you have the fitness to do this))
  • soidade
    soidade Posts: 116 Member
    after one year being on the high protein low carb diet and it worked fine (maintained or tried to maintain for 1 year and dieting again now)
    I just saw some videos on youtube basically attacking this lifestyle and recommending high carb low fat diets, because as the girl said low carbs leave your body hungry for it and people who go low carb usually double on carbs after the diet and gain back all the weight ! it's also said that one should not cut calories so much and just be patient rather than cutting to get quick results . if cutting means going on a 1200 calorie diet then what's not cutting 1400 ? 1500 ? 1700 ?? and still lose weight ? I don't really get this.

    I feel lost of what's better for my body .. I do feel fatigue while on low carb, and when I tried to maintain the last year I gained back about 8 lbs, that made me think that may be she's right and I am doing something wrong .. hmmm


    I just need to know the truth provided with some real results
    I am also lifting hoping to strengthen my muscles so I don't know where that goes in the whole low fat low protein diet ..


    Do something you can live with. If you love carbs, a low-carb diet isn't going to work. If you love fat, a low-fat diet isn't going to work. If you love both... just count calories and you can factor both in. Adopting a diet because of "someone on Youtube" is pointless. You need to figure out what diet you can realistically stick to.
  • h9dlb
    h9dlb Posts: 243 Member
    People focus too much on macro percentages because they hear all this IIFYM garbage which makes them think they can pig out on ice cream etc and trade macros as they wish. What people forget is there are good carbs (fibre) and bad carbs (sugar), good fats (Unsat) and bad fats (sat and trans).

    Low carb is for fast initial weight loss but its not sustainable but in the long run the results between different macro diets are almost the same.

    Just eat sensibly at a deficit and enjoy your food.
  • ketoambahh
    ketoambahh Posts: 67
    Actually saturated fats are good for you, but anyway....

    I notice when people try to go on low carb diets either of these things happen:

    1. They're going low carb AND low fat.

    2. They're eating too much protein in turn defeating some of the purpose of low carb.

    3. They're not replenishing their electrolytes with the water / magnesium / potassium they need.

    4. They're not keeping their appetite satiated with essential natural fats.

    ...and MOST importantly:

    5. They are being too extreme with the carb counts.

    On a low carb diet you can have as many as 25% of your calories as carbs (for my case that's about 130g). Keto is the extremely low end of the low carb high fat spectrum (Which is only 5% of your calories come from carbs). I certainly didn't do keto cold turkey. My first 20 pounds I lost when I was eating around 140 carbs a day on average. I felt a stall so I decided to try keto.

    TL;DR You can still do low carb and not kill yourself doing it.

    It's certainly an option, but if you're just starting out I suggest CICO and to make sure your vitamins and nutrients are kept in check. If it work then it works. Go for what you're comfortable with.
  • takumaku
    takumaku Posts: 352 Member
    People focus too much on macro percentages because they hear all this IIFYM garbage which makes them think they can pig out on ice cream etc and trade macros as they wish. What people forget is there are good carbs (fibre) and bad carbs (sugar), good fats (Unsat) and bad fats (sat and trans).

    Low carb is for fast initial weight loss but its not sustainable but in the long run the results between different macro diets are almost the same.

    Just eat sensibly at a deficit and enjoy your food.

    Good carbs, bad carbs are indicative of an eating disorders if taking to the extreme. No food is bad food. There is no perfect diet or perfect food or perfect formula to follow.

    I agree with your statement ... eat sensibly. For some, it's low carbing, for other's it's high carbing. For those of us with medical conditions, it's completely different. Everyone needs to find what works for them and be able to stick with it for their lifestyle.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    People focus too much on macro percentages because they hear all this IIFYM garbage which makes them think they can pig out on ice cream etc and trade macros as they wish. What people forget is there are good carbs (fibre) and bad carbs (sugar), good fats (Unsat) and bad fats (sat and trans).

    yeah...nah
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    after one year being on the high protein low carb diet and it worked fine (maintained or tried to maintain for 1 year and dieting again now)
    I just saw some videos on youtube basically attacking this lifestyle and recommending high carb low fat diets, because as the girl said low carbs leave your body hungry for it and people who go low carb usually double on carbs after the diet and gain back all the weight ! it's also said that one should not cut calories so much and just be patient rather than cutting to get quick results . if cutting means going on a 1200 calorie diet then what's not cutting 1400 ? 1500 ? 1700 ?? and still lose weight ? I don't really get this.

    I feel lost of what's better for my body .. I do feel fatigue while on low carb, and when I tried to maintain the last year I gained back about 8 lbs, that made me think that may be she's right and I am doing something wrong .. hmmm


    I just need to know the truth provided with some real results
    I am also lifting hoping to strengthen my muscles so I don't know where that goes in the whole low fat low protein diet ..


    Only a suggestion:
    If you want to stay low-ish on carbs, then add fats and oils.
    Eat whole fat yogurt and milk and cheese, add oil when you are cooking and such. Eat nuts.
    Fats and oils can help you feel satisfied.
  • mom2nji
    mom2nji Posts: 5
    I am new here but wanted to chime in. I am more or less eating paleo, but mostly just whole food eating. I dont crazy obsess over carb counts, but I dont eat anything processed. I stick to lean meat, fish, eggs, fruit, veggies, nuts/seeds, and healthy fats. I have lost more than 60lbs in 4 months. I am never hungry or tired. I am not worried about gaining it back because I dont intend to eat like i did before ever again. I know that this is the best way to fuel my body now and I dont miss feeling sick all the time.