Does Hydroxycut make a difference?

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  • navs52
    navs52 Posts: 40
    It made me extremely jittery....I can usually put up with the jitters but it was too much...Not worth the money. Revitalabs FB+(get it on their site) is better. I don't take anything at this point tho exercise and eating right is the best medicine.
  • edorice
    edorice Posts: 4,519 Member
    She's already bought it, she's going to take it, and she doesn't care about any scientific data.
  • rogers8702
    rogers8702 Posts: 533 Member
    the best advice i was ever given on weight loss pills, IS IF IT REALLY WORKED IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESCRIBED!
    THESE WEIGHT LOSS PILLS ARE JUST FILLER INGREDIENTS.

    dont get me wrong i have tried a few and all they did was take money out of my wallet. a multi vitamin, exercise 3-5 days a week, and a healthy diet of 1200-1500 calories helped me to lose 60lbs last year.
  • Egger29
    Egger29 Posts: 14,741 Member
    the best advice i was ever given on weight loss pills, IS IF IT REALLY WORKED IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESCRIBED!
    THESE WEIGHT LOSS PILLS ARE JUST FILLER INGREDIENTS.

    dont get me wrong i have tried a few and all they did was take money out of my wallet. a multi vitamin, exercise 3-5 days a week, and a healthy diet of 1200-1500 calories helped me to lose 60lbs last year.

    I've often used that expression with clients in the past: "Yes...you lose alot of weight because your wallet is that much lighter!"

    Excellent note!
  • binary_jester
    binary_jester Posts: 3,311 Member
    Caffiene, Taurine, Ephedra and such don't have anything do to with the Metabolism.

    They make your heart race ..I.E Artificially elevated Heart Rate. That's why the side effects are so bad.

    If you actually take the time to look up each individual ingredient in the stuff, you'll find that most of it has no proven use what-so-ever while the caffiene content is equivalent to about 10 cups of coffee.

    That being said, as Caffiene is a natural diuretic...so called Weight loss comes due to frequent trips to the bathroom.

    This weight loss however is NOT fat loss. It would be Water weight that's directly associated with Lean mass...not fat.

    Furthermore, since Lean Mass is directly correlated to the metabolism, and lose of healthy lean weight results in a drop of the metabolism and an expected weight gain later down the road.

    There are no quick fixes or cheats to losing weight. It's a long-term path of lifestyle changes over time.

    Consider this...no one in the world has ever gone to bed looking like an Olympian and woken up a biggest Loser contestant. So how can people expect the opposite to happen?
    A study performed by PA Daly, DR Krieger, AG Dulloo, JB Young, and L Landsberg (1993), ephedrine was combined with caffeine and aspirin. They used 24 obese individuals in a randomized double blind placebo-controlled study for an eight-week study followed by two other long-term studies. The purpose of this experiment was to determine the efficacy and safety of ECA. The first phase of the study included the administration of treatments three times a day, 30 minutes before meals. They measured weight, blood pressure and heart rate, and side effects at the end of week 1, 4, 6, and 8. The mean weight loss for ECA was significantly higher than the placebo group (P value of .003). There were no significant differences between ECA and placebo concerning blood pressure and heart rate. Side effects for the placebo group consisted of dry mouth (2), constipation (1), and jitteriness (1). The ECA group had complaints in each of these areas; 2, 2, and 3 respectively. In phase two of this study, nine patients were used and evaluated at the end of week 2, 4, 6, and 8. This study was performed five months later for another eight weeks; however, this time it was an un-blinded study. The mean weight loss of ECA was significantly greater, providing a P value of .09. Once again there was no significant difference between these groups with respect to blood pressure and heart rate. Side effects were only found in ECA consisting of dry mouth. This did not continue throughout the experiment. In the last phase, six of these subjects were used and evaluated every month ranging from 7 to 26 months. The increase in weight loss was significant statistically and clinically because the weight loss happened without the restriction of calorie intake. In conclusion of this experiment, the ECA group lost more weight than the placebo group. It was also concluded that ephedrine taken over an extended period of time was still safe and still provided weight loss.

    Just saying you might want to check your facts. I can find studies on caffeine if you like.

    FYI: My facts come directly in reference from Dr Susan Kleiner who is one of the leading authorities on Sports Nutrition for Performance Athletes. Ref: "Power Eating - 2nd edition"

    That being said. 24 individuals in one study doen't necessarily speak for the majority of the Population. Which journal was this study published in? I was unable to find it on record in the National Library of Medicine - Pub Med which is a database of all published studies.

    That being said .."Weight" loss and "FAT" loss are not the same thing.

    Water weight lost through the use of diauretics and herbal supplements does not correlate to a reduction in body fat in any study. Water is a component of lean Mass. There's no water content in fat.
    How about the JAMA?

    http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/289.12.1537v1

    Conclusions Ephedrine and ephedra promote modest short-term weight loss ({approx}0.9 kg/mo more than placebo) in clinical trials. There are no data regarding long-term weight loss, and evidence to support use of ephedra for athletic performance is insufficient. Use of ephedra or ephedrine and caffeine is associated with increased risk of psychiatric, autonomic, or gastrointestinal symptoms, and heart palpitations.

    Also RAND

    http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB4556/index1.html


    I prefer to read studies vs opinions.
  • Egger29
    Egger29 Posts: 14,741 Member
    Hello my Friend! Thanks for the references.

    I personally check my sources with the National Library of Medicine Pubnet Database. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed.

    If you Look up ephedra you will find a couple thousand research papers, articles and references all of which offer different opinions and tests and results. Feel free to consider all of these professional "opinions".

    Regardless of all that, I was under the impression the question was about the effectiveness of Hydroxycut....a product which currently does not contain anything more than numerous caffiene derivaties.

    I am sure however that there will be many people on here who would love to debate and discuss the benefits of using questionable substances such as Ephedrine and more. To each his/her own.

    I can only speak for myself personally but I would not recommend such substances to any of my clients or athletes I'm working with by any means now would I use a 17 year old study (1993) as a basis for pushing such a product.

    Perhaps my professional ethics are too high, but I believe in you want the long term results you put in the work and make the appropriate lifestyle changes. There are no short cuts.

    Cheers.
  • binary_jester
    binary_jester Posts: 3,311 Member
    Hello my Friend! Thanks for the references.

    I personally check my sources with the National Library of Medicine Pubnet Database. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed.

    If you Look up ephedra you will find a couple thousand research papers, articles and references all of which offer different opinions and tests and results. Feel free to consider all of these professional "opinions".

    Regardless of all that, I was under the impression the question was about the effectiveness of Hydroxycut....a product which currently does not contain anything more than numerous caffiene derivaties.

    I am sure however that there will be many people on here who would love to debate and discuss the benefits of using questionable substances such as Ephedrine and more. To each his/her own.

    I can only speak for myself personally but I would not recommend such substances to any of my clients or athletes I'm working with by any means now would I use a 17 year old study (1993) as a basis for pushing such a product.

    Perhaps my professional ethics are too high, but I believe in you want the long term results you put in the work and make the appropriate lifestyle changes. There are no short cuts.

    Cheers.
    Let me clarify. Hydroxycut? No thanks (no offense to the creator of the question). Last time I read one of their labels, it didn't list the dosage of the ingredients. In those terms I have never been a fan of one size fits all.
    When it comes to supplements, I get the argument. Some want to take it and not change their eating/exercise habits, and they will fail and blame the product. I have changed my eating habits a work out religiously. Now if I can take somethings that gets me to my goal a little quicker, I'll take it.
  • I took this about 6 months ago.. About a day or 2 my arms fell asleep. BOTH of them! I stopped taking it my arms were fine!
  • i thought they took that off the market due to side effects. See your doctor about trying Phentamin. I'm hearing alot of good things about it, with very minimal side effects. Best of luck!
  • mccorml
    mccorml Posts: 622 Member
    i agree with binary jester the ones with heart problems are the ones that are stupid and dont hydrate right or had pre existing conditions and fyi the fda is a joke
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