I thought the "eat more food" people were crazy
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Because it just doesn't make sense to me.
However, I've been eating more the last 4 days and have been losing each day.
Maybe my body is simply releasing water now, or maybe it's just a coincidence.
But I'm going to keep doing it as long as the weight is coming off.
However, I've been eating more the last 4 days and have been losing each day.
Maybe my body is simply releasing water now, or maybe it's just a coincidence.
But I'm going to keep doing it as long as the weight is coming off.
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If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.0 -
If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I don't know about this for sure...but I have read there is something like delayed effect to release water with some fat...in long run, I don't see how eating more can help lose. That's how i got stuck...0 -
If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.0 -
Now much are you eating and losing per week now?0
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I want to be clear before the snark monsters show up.
I am NOT saying that eating more led to the weight loss.
I'm saying that when I started eating more, I started losing more. It could be coincidence. I'm simply saying that I'm adding it back to my list of possibilities.0 -
If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.
What's your deficit now, if you don't mind me asking, and what's your rate of loss now?
In the end, to me, it doesn't matter as long as you're happy with your rate of loss and overall mood.0 -
Sometimes the plateau just breaks for whatever reason. Sometimes I think it does help to have some higher calorie days. I had some higher ones last week and a plateau broke. Not sure if it would've otherwise or not.
The theory of calorie cycling has been around a long time. I figure there must be something to it, at least for some people. I don't think I could eat more every day and lose more, though.
There is some known adaptive thermogenesis that is mainly that we move less at higher deficits. So even if you don't notice it, you might be moving more now. I think your BMR is actually a range, too, and can decrease some at steep deficits.0 -
i finding it hard to get my head around.. but i am just going to go for it and see what happens over the next month0
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If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.
What's your deficit now, if you don't mind me asking, and what's your rate of loss now?
In the end, to me, it doesn't matter as long as you're happy with your rate of loss and overall mood.
I'm eating about 2200 cals a day now. And I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days.0 -
If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.
What's your deficit now, if you don't mind me asking, and what's your rate of loss now?
In the end, to me, it doesn't matter as long as you're happy with your rate of loss and overall mood.
I'm eating about 2200 cals a day now. And I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days.
That rate will likely slow down. And maybe even stop for a bit. But 2200 is probably a good deficit for you. You estimate that's about 800 calories below your TDEE? Is that your estimate? If so, just continue on at 2200 for a while. If your numbers are all accurate, you'll probably steady off at 1-1.5 lbs per week. I think 800 calories/day is a very sensible deficit for you based on your profile picture.0 -
A while back, I lost about one pound over two weeks, despite high four and low five digit weekly deficits. Then I lost 18 pounds in 18 days. I didn't (consciously) change anything. Same intake, same exercise.0
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Isn't it amazing what proper fueling the body can do?Because it just doesn't make sense to me.
However, I've been eating more the last 4 days and have been losing each day.
Maybe my body is simply releasing water now, or maybe it's just a coincidence.
But I'm going to keep doing it as long as the weight is coming off.0 -
Well, it seems to me proper body fueling leads to body efficiency, which probably means more pep in your workouts and everyday movement.I want to be clear before the snark monsters show up.
I am NOT saying that eating more led to the weight loss.
I'm saying that when I started eating more, I started losing more. It could be coincidence. I'm simply saying that I'm adding it back to my list of possibilities.
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Just some observations from having been around here for a couple of years. It seems to me that when people have very large deficits, they tend to not really get adequate nutrition and are lacking in certain nutrients and end up with hormonal imbalances which cause weight loss issues. When they up there calories to a more reasonable deficit, their nutrition improves and their hormones balance out and their body's start working correctly and they start losing weight. I would also add that many people also see an improvement in the level of effort for their workouts and tend to just move more in general.
Of course, eat more doesn't mean that you eat above your TDEE....I think that's where people get confused when you say eat more to lose...you still have to be at a deficit. It just tends to be more reasonable which lends itself to greater dietary adherence in many cases as well as a better overall nutritional profile which helps the body just work better.0 -
My UP24 and weightlifting log disagree with you.
Well, it seems to me proper body fueling leads to body efficiency, which probably means more pep in your workouts and everyday movement.I want to be clear before the snark monsters show up.
I am NOT saying that eating more led to the weight loss.
I'm saying that when I started eating more, I started losing more. It could be coincidence. I'm simply saying that I'm adding it back to my list of possibilities.0 -
Last year, same thing happened to me. I hit a plateau lasting a month or so --- long enough to research my head off about it, because based on my relatively meager food intake vs. my relatively rigorous workout, it just made no sense. And I too weigh everything, etc.
So I figured out my tdee and was surprised to find I was under something like 500-1000 a day. I added those calories to my diet, and weight poured off.
Maybe it's coincidence, and my body was just ready to lose weight, or maybe there's something to it. Ultimately though, if your 'larger' diet is still constrained by good TDEE calculations, and you're still losing weight, imo it's better to get that extra food in you for energy, nutrition, and sanity.0 -
If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.
What's your deficit now, if you don't mind me asking, and what's your rate of loss now?
In the end, to me, it doesn't matter as long as you're happy with your rate of loss and overall mood.
I'm eating about 2200 cals a day now. And I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days.
That rate will likely slow down. And maybe even stop for a bit. But 2200 is probably a good deficit for you. You estimate that's about 800 calories below your TDEE? Is that your estimate? If so, just continue on at 2200 for a while. If your numbers are all accurate, you'll probably steady off at 1-1.5 lbs per week. I think 800 calories/day is a very sensible deficit for you based on your profile picture.
One of the formulas has me at 3700 and another has me at 3300 (TDEE). If I remember correctly? MFP tells me to eat 2800 a day to lose 2lb a week.0 -
Just some observations from having been around here for a couple of years. It seems to me that when people have very large deficits, they tend to not really get adequate nutrition and are lacking in certain nutrients and end up with hormonal imbalances which cause weight loss issues. When they up there calories to a more reasonable deficit, their nutrition improves and their hormones balance out and their body's start working correctly and they start losing weight. I would also add that many people also see an improvement in the level of effort for their workouts and tend to just move more in general.
Of course, eat more doesn't mean that you eat above your TDEE....I think that's where people get confused when you say eat more to lose...you still have to be at a deficit. It just tends to be more reasonable which lends itself to greater dietary adherence in many cases as well as a better overall nutritional profile which helps the body just work better.
Will a multivitamin fill the nutrition gap?0 -
If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.
What's your deficit now, if you don't mind me asking, and what's your rate of loss now?
In the end, to me, it doesn't matter as long as you're happy with your rate of loss and overall mood.
I'm eating about 2200 cals a day now. And I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days.
That rate will likely slow down. And maybe even stop for a bit. But 2200 is probably a good deficit for you. You estimate that's about 800 calories below your TDEE? Is that your estimate? If so, just continue on at 2200 for a while. If your numbers are all accurate, you'll probably steady off at 1-1.5 lbs per week. I think 800 calories/day is a very sensible deficit for you based on your profile picture.
One of the formulas has me at 3700 and another has me at 3300 (TDEE).
Meh, they're all estimates. Stick to the 2200 if you like it, keep close track of your rate of loss for a couple months. Then you can do math to figure your actual TDEE, if all of your logging is accurate. Doing this helped open my eyes to what a reasonable calorie deficit was, even if you have a lot of weight to lose. But that's me personally. Now I let my FitBit track my TDEE, and I don't really do the math as much and tweak, since I find my FitBit to be accurate to within +/-70 calories per day over the long term (based on the charts I've made for myself).
Really, 2200 sounds great. Just stick to that for a couple months. Then come back and tell us how much you've lost. Maybe we'll give you new advice then. Good luck, ok?0 -
I take multivitamins but also ensure I am eating solid, well designed meals. I wouldn't recommend getting your cals through trash foods and then supplementing with a vitamin. Some argue against vitamins due to absorption rates and other things, but I can definitely 'feel' days I skip my vitamins.0
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I was having the same place. I was stuck for 10 months. I upped my calories to 1400, not using up my exercise and I've lost 1.2 lbs the 1st week. Hopefully tomorrow there will be another drop.
Good going! Hope it continues for you too!0 -
My UP24 and weightlifting log disagree with you.
Well, it seems to me proper body fueling leads to body efficiency, which probably means more pep in your workouts and everyday movement.I want to be clear before the snark monsters show up.
I am NOT saying that eating more led to the weight loss.
I'm saying that when I started eating more, I started losing more. It could be coincidence. I'm simply saying that I'm adding it back to my list of possibilities.
Everyone has different experiences. And everyone here is glad that your plan works for you. Grats on your success!0 -
If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.
What's your deficit now, if you don't mind me asking, and what's your rate of loss now?
In the end, to me, it doesn't matter as long as you're happy with your rate of loss and overall mood.
I'm eating about 2200 cals a day now. And I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days.
That rate will likely slow down. And maybe even stop for a bit. But 2200 is probably a good deficit for you. You estimate that's about 800 calories below your TDEE? Is that your estimate? If so, just continue on at 2200 for a while. If your numbers are all accurate, you'll probably steady off at 1-1.5 lbs per week. I think 800 calories/day is a very sensible deficit for you based on your profile picture.
One of the formulas has me at 3700 and another has me at 3300 (TDEE).
Meh, they're all estimates. Stick to the 2200 if you like it, keep close track of your rate of loss for a couple months. Then you can do math to figure your actual TDEE, if all of your logging is accurate. Doing this helped open my eyes to what a reasonable calorie deficit was, even if you have a lot of weight to lose. But that's me personally. Now I let my FitBit track my TDEE, and I don't really do the math as much and tweak, since I find my FitBit to be accurate to within +/-70 calories per day over the long term (based on the charts I've made for myself).
Really, 2200 sounds great. Just stick to that for a couple months. Then come back and tell us how much you've lost. Maybe we'll give you new advice then. Good luck, ok?
Thanks for all your advice. Honestly appreciate it.
So you find your fitbit to be accurate at calculating calorie expendeture? I was thinking about the Bodymedia one.0 -
Don't underestimate the power of metabolism. When you eat too little your body down shifts into starvation gear, burns less calories to keep you alive longer. Keep your body thinking you're fine by distributing your calories throughout the day--5-6 small meals are better than 3 big ones. Also, people think if they drink a lot of water they will bloat up. Wrong. The opposite is true and you can sabotage your weight loss by not drinking your water (8 or more cups per day). Water, lots of it, washes your fat away. Fat weighs something--it's heavy. Keep at it. You'll soon see the pounds disappear and then you'll be hooked on MFP. Good luck.0
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If you're eating at a deficit, you should lose. It's awesome that you're losing. Keep up the good work!
I think the issue a lot of people face is that they don't know what their TDEE. So they think the only thing to do is eat as little as possible. That works for some people. Other people do it differently.
I was eating a 1500 calorie defecit a day and losing 1 pound a week.
And I weigh everything. Use the USDA database. I'm a little OCD.
For whatever reason, the scale was stuck.
What's your deficit now, if you don't mind me asking, and what's your rate of loss now?
In the end, to me, it doesn't matter as long as you're happy with your rate of loss and overall mood.
I'm eating about 2200 cals a day now. And I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days.
That rate will likely slow down. And maybe even stop for a bit. But 2200 is probably a good deficit for you. You estimate that's about 800 calories below your TDEE? Is that your estimate? If so, just continue on at 2200 for a while. If your numbers are all accurate, you'll probably steady off at 1-1.5 lbs per week. I think 800 calories/day is a very sensible deficit for you based on your profile picture.
One of the formulas has me at 3700 and another has me at 3300 (TDEE).
Meh, they're all estimates. Stick to the 2200 if you like it, keep close track of your rate of loss for a couple months. Then you can do math to figure your actual TDEE, if all of your logging is accurate. Doing this helped open my eyes to what a reasonable calorie deficit was, even if you have a lot of weight to lose. But that's me personally. Now I let my FitBit track my TDEE, and I don't really do the math as much and tweak, since I find my FitBit to be accurate to within +/-70 calories per day over the long term (based on the charts I've made for myself).
Really, 2200 sounds great. Just stick to that for a couple months. Then come back and tell us how much you've lost. Maybe we'll give you new advice then. Good luck, ok?
Thanks for all your advice. Honestly appreciate it.
So you find your fitbit to be accurate at calculating calorie expendeture? I was thinking about the Bodymedia one.
I had to tweak it (change my stride length, and I rounded down my height, so it made my BMR a little lower) based on my long term charts of meticulous logging. So when I bought it, I kinda already knew what my BMR and TDEE was from other tests I've had done. So after I tweaked the settings, I trust the FitBit now to be close enough to give me an idea of what any day's given TDEE was.
I assume I weigh less than you, and I personally can't eat at a huge deficit without sacrificing performance, mood, and sleeping issues. So I absolutely, personally, have to accurately keep my intake to no less than 500 below TDEE on average. But that's me. I have other medical issues I deal with which take priority above weightloss. And the FitBit helps me personally with many of my health issues (not just weightloss).
Since you have more fat stores than me (I assume) you don't have to be as accurate with your TDEE. What's more important for you right now is finding a sustainable plan that you can stick with that doesn't leave you with any hunger, hormone, craving issues. If 2200 is that number, then I think that's awesome. Maybe it'll be 2500. Maybe it'll be 2000. Who knows.0 -
Just some observations from having been around here for a couple of years. It seems to me that when people have very large deficits, they tend to not really get adequate nutrition and are lacking in certain nutrients and end up with hormonal imbalances which cause weight loss issues. When they up there calories to a more reasonable deficit, their nutrition improves and their hormones balance out and their body's start working correctly and they start losing weight. I would also add that many people also see an improvement in the level of effort for their workouts and tend to just move more in general.
Of course, eat more doesn't mean that you eat above your TDEE....I think that's where people get confused when you say eat more to lose...you still have to be at a deficit. It just tends to be more reasonable which lends itself to greater dietary adherence in many cases as well as a better overall nutritional profile which helps the body just work better.
^^^ what he said
well fed people move more. they do better workouts. they fidget more. they move around more when not exercising. they feel warmer, their bodies generate more heat, more energy goes to non-essential functions... some of this is increased activity due to feeling more energetic, some of it is adaptive thermogenesis. but the upshot is, if you eat more (i.e. a moderate deficit compared to an extreme deficit), your TDEE tends to go up as well........ lots of people find that when they raise their calories for bulking, that they dont' gain weight right away, they sometimes have to raise their calories again, and again, before they start gaining weight, because of their TDEE going up due to these issues. Your TDEE isn't a static number, your body's in a constant state of flux, adjusting to what's going in. Of course, there are limits in both directions, because your body can only adjust so much, and so people can become obese or starve to death. But the body is more adaptable than people give it credit for.
Additionally, I just want to repeat the point that "eat more" does not mean "eat over your TDEE" it means "it's better to have a moderate deficit than an extreme deficit"0 -
I'm new too. I've lost 7 pounds in 24 days. I weigh in every day and here's what that's like: down-up-down-up-lose a pound-up-down-up-down-lose a pound. That's just what I've learned to expect. A pound doesn't weigh all that much. Don't despair, I'm losing and I'm doing very little exercise. I'm 66. If it's working for me, it will work for you. Keep the faith. You're on the path to success, and you've got friends.0
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They all just estimate. I've had both types and they do about the same, so I'd pass on the arm-worn Body Media, with its monthly fee. And be warned they don't estimate resistance or cycling. I love Fitbits, though, just for the motivation and for seeing an inactive day's data vs. an active one.So you find your fitbit to be accurate at calculating calorie expendeture? I was thinking about the Bodymedia one.
Changing your stride length in Fitbit settings doesn't affect your calorie burn data, just your distance estimate.0
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