Has anyone tried a fruit and veggie cleanse?

SezxyStef

Yah still didn't get my questions answered but eh...guess that poster didn't know those answers.

To the OP there is no reason to resort to this sort of thing even for a week unless there is a medical reason for it.

Eat the foods you love and want but stay in a deficit and you will lose weight...for health look at your macros and get in adequate protien and fats. Carbs are good and supply lots of energy and vitamins...

Extreme changes are not required...

levitateme

this is my first time posting, people really blow up - everyone just chill out

No one's blowing up, people just have to repeat this stuff over and over around here and it can become tiresome. Read the stickies provided at the top of each forum. There's no reason to restrict your diet. Restrictive diets can lead to binge eating and deficiencies.

Your body cleanses itself. All you need to do is stick to a calorie goal and make sure you are meeting your macro goals. I personally only worry about protein, fiber, carbs and calcium, and I don't worry about not going over, I worry about meeting or exceeding my set goals.

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ohaston

YES I HAVE AND ITS FEELS GREAT ! ! !!
I do an all raw fruit and veggie detox (for lack of better words) and I HAVE YET TO NOT FEEL BETTER BY DAY 2 ... and OMG the water weight that comes off ... I urinate about 9 times in a 10 hr shift.

I also do lemon water during this time ... I just finished one .. yet this time I did incorporate chicken breat and a lil salad dressing ... (STILL FELT GOOD) ... Its not about a quick fad , its just that we were designed to eat off the LAND ... Think about it this way ...

WE ARE THE ONLY ANIMALS THAT HAVE TO COOK THEIR MEAT BEFORE THEY CONSUME IT ... WHY??? B/C WE WERE NOT DESIGNED TO EAT THEM ANYWAY ...
Ok, let me know get biblical (God forbid, I have MFPals hitting me from every angle) ...

ALSO, I do eat lots of nuts, coconut, and olive oil ... So Im getting a little protein and some good fats.

I even did black beans in my salad this past time.

I do it about once every couple of months! Look at my pics, you will see what I eat during those times.
I know some things are MIND OVER MATTER ... and if you think it, it is ... and that a persons perception becomes their reality ... all those good things ...

BUT , all I know is ... I go from sluggish to BURSTING with energy when I eat all natural.

So you ask, why don't I do this long term, ONLY B/C it gets boring after awhile and I still have a LOVE affair with food ... So, I want an occasion sweet potato, some cheese, a bag of corn chips, some brown rice, etc ... So I end up going back to cooked foods.

All Im saying is ... IT WON'T hurt ya ... Try if for a few days ( I always do at least 3 at a time ) ... stay close to a bathroom b/c you are going to urinate your butt off ...

Inbox me when you're done and tell me how you feel and how much water weight you've lost ... NOW yes you will gain some of it back, especially if you go right back to eating processed foods, etc but I usually lose from 5 - 8 and I keep off about 2-3.

I don't do it for the lost, I do it because your body needs to RELAX ... processed foods as well as MEATS are harsh on your body and hard to digest ... eating natural, fruits/veggies/nuts is they way to go!

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paperpudding

I was planning on adding seafood in, because seafood doesn't make me feel ill. I also take iron supps

Ok, so this plan will consist of fruit, veggies, dairy and seafood now? And iron supplements?

Couldn't do it myself but that doesn't sound too bad, I think you could cover most nutritional bases with combinations from those 4 groups.

I mean, it isn't a cleanse or any other magical thing bit it isn't neccesarily too nutritionally deficient either

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

@ohaston--

I find the "we're the only animals that . . ." argument in this thread just as silly as when it shows up in milk threads. Just because we're the only ones to do something, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done. We're also the only animals who drive and use computers.

Also the fact that you can't stick to this "diet" is a testament to the fact that it isn't sustainable long term.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

I was planning on adding seafood in, because seafood doesn't make me feel ill. I also take iron supps

Ok, so this plan will consist of fruit, veggies, dairy and seafood now? And iron supplements?

Couldn't do it myself but that doesn't sound too bad, I think you could cover most nutritional bases with combinations from those 4 groups.

I mean, it isn't a cleanse or any other magical thing bit it isn't neccesarily too nutritionally deficient either

I agree, that could be done. I wouldn't enjoy it. But it could work.

OP if you do this please make sure you're getting enough fat. Seafood isn't particularly high in that macro.

nadamandar

I cleanse all my fruits and veggies before I eat them...

Makes sense really...

Bahaha

ohaston

YES I HAVE AND ITS FEELS GREAT ! ! !!
I do an all raw fruit and veggie detox (for lack of better words) and I HAVE YET TO NOT FEEL BETTER BY DAY 2 ... and OMG the water weight that comes off ... I urinate about 9 times in a 10 hr shift.

I also do lemon water during this time ... I just finished one .. yet this time I did incorporate chicken breat and a lil salad dressing ... (STILL FELT GOOD) ... Its not about a quick fad , its just that we were designed to eat off the LAND ... Think about it this way ...

WE ARE THE ONLY ANIMALS THAT HAVE TO COOK THEIR MEAT BEFORE THEY CONSUME IT ... WHY??? B/C WE WERE NOT DESIGNED TO EAT THEM ANYWAY ...
Ok, let me know get biblical (God forbid, I have MFPals hitting me from every angle) ...

ALSO, I do eat lots of nuts, coconut, and olive oil ... So Im getting a little protein and some good fats.

I even did black beans in my salad this past time.

I do it about once every couple of months! Look at my pics, you will see what I eat during those times.
I know some things are MIND OVER MATTER ... and if you think it, it is ... and that a persons perception becomes their reality ... all those good things ...

BUT , all I know is ... I go from sluggish to BURSTING with energy when I eat all natural.

So you ask, why don't I do this long term, ONLY B/C it gets boring after awhile and I still have a LOVE affair with food ... So, I want an occasion sweet potato, some cheese, a bag of corn chips, some brown rice, etc ... So I end up going back to cooked foods.

All Im saying is ... IT WON'T hurt ya ... Try if for a few days ( I always do at least 3 at a time ) ... stay close to a bathroom b/c you are going to urinate your butt off ...

Inbox me when you're done and tell me how you feel and how much water weight you've lost ... NOW yes you will gain some of it back, especially if you go right back to eating processed foods, etc but I usually lose from 5 - 8 and I keep off about 2-3.

I don't do it for the lost, I do it because your body needs to RELAX ... processed foods as well as MEATS are harsh on your body and hard to digest ... eating natural, fruits/veggies/nuts is they way to go!

Why are you yelling?

Back in the day planes didn't exist. So we were not meant to fly right? Are you against getting on a plane?
Are you against watching TV or making a phone call?
How about toilet paper? Should we use leaves?

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

ohaston

@ohaston--

I find the "we're the only animals that . . ." argument in this thread just as silly as when it shows up in milk threads. Just because we're the only ones to do something, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done. We're also the only animals who drive and use computers.

Also the fact that you can't stick to this "diet" is a testament to the fact that it isn't sustainable long term.

Our brain power really is not part of the discussion ( our digestive track, macros , etc seems to be ) and animals have been trained to use computers (google it) ... and I don't stick to it because I don't have a desire to.... I LIKE to eat other foods as well ... I've never got into an argument on MFP and I won't start now ... don't know anything about "milk threads" AND I don't call people silly ... neither of us (from the looks of it) are any specialists in any of these areas ... we are common ppl, for the most part, trying to be healthy, lose weight, get advise, and motivation. At least, thats why Im here!.
Have a good day ladybug!

SezxyStef

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

There are other medical conditions that arise from a vegetarian eating lifestyle...I read an article where a woman while pregnant developed a disorder where her body could not metoablize fats because of her vegetarian diet...the doctors caught it early enough and helped her reverse it but her son that was born...it's chronic now...so don't tell me we don't need certian foods.

As for the other lets see a study that proves that before you start spread that mis-information.

As well I can guarantee you a wolf or bear or any other meat eating animal would eat a bbq'd steak given that chance...just like my cat will drink my milk out of my cereal bowl given the chance...

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

@ohaston--

I find the "we're the only animals that . . ." argument in this thread just as silly as when it shows up in milk threads. Just because we're the only ones to do something, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done. We're also the only animals who drive and use computers.

Also the fact that you can't stick to this "diet" is a testament to the fact that it isn't sustainable long term.

Our brain power really is not part of the discussion ( our digestive track, macros , etc seems to be ) and animals have been trained to use computers (google it) ... and I don't stick to it because I don't have a desire to.... I LIKE to eat other foods as well ... I've never got into an argument on MFP and I won't start now ... don't know anything about "milk threads" AND I don't call people silly ... neither of us (from the looks of it) are any specialists in any of these areas ... we are common ppl, for the most part, trying to be healthy, lose weight, get advise, and motivation. At least, thats why Im here!.
Have a good day ladybug!

I didn't call you silly, I called your argument silly. Also I consider cooking to be part of the brain power equation.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

There are other medical conditions that arise from a vegetarian eating lifestyle...I read an article where a woman while pregnant developed a disorder where her body could not metoablize fats because of her vegetarian diet...the doctors caught it early enough and helped her reverse it but her son that was born...it's chronic now...so don't tell me we don't need certian foods.

As for the other lets see a study that proves that before you start spread that mis-information.

As well I can guarantee you a wolf or bear or any other meat eating animal would eat a bbq'd steak given that chance...just like my cat will drink my milk out of my cereal bowl given the chance...

I'd like to see a source for that as well. That applies to actual humans, not test tubes.

_HeartsOnFire_

YES I HAVE AND ITS FEELS GREAT ! ! !!
I do an all raw fruit and veggie detox (for lack of better words) and I HAVE YET TO NOT FEEL BETTER BY DAY 2 ... and OMG the water weight that comes off ... I urinate about 9 times in a 10 hr shift.

I also do lemon water during this time ... I just finished one .. yet this time I did incorporate chicken breat and a lil salad dressing ... (STILL FELT GOOD) ... Its not about a quick fad , its just that we were designed to eat off the LAND ... Think about it this way ...

WE ARE THE ONLY ANIMALS THAT HAVE TO COOK THEIR MEAT BEFORE THEY CONSUME IT ... WHY??? B/C WE WERE NOT DESIGNED TO EAT THEM ANYWAY ...
Ok, let me know get biblical (God forbid, I have MFPals hitting me from every angle) ...

ALSO, I do eat lots of nuts, coconut, and olive oil ... So Im getting a little protein and some good fats.

I even did black beans in my salad this past time.

I do it about once every couple of months! Look at my pics, you will see what I eat during those times.
I know some things are MIND OVER MATTER ... and if you think it, it is ... and that a persons perception becomes their reality ... all those good things ...

BUT , all I know is ... I go from sluggish to BURSTING with energy when I eat all natural.

So you ask, why don't I do this long term, ONLY B/C it gets boring after awhile and I still have a LOVE affair with food ... So, I want an occasion sweet potato, some cheese, a bag of corn chips, some brown rice, etc ... So I end up going back to cooked foods.

All Im saying is ... IT WON'T hurt ya ... Try if for a few days ( I always do at least 3 at a time ) ... stay close to a bathroom b/c you are going to urinate your butt off ...

Inbox me when you're done and tell me how you feel and how much water weight you've lost ... NOW yes you will gain some of it back, especially if you go right back to eating processed foods, etc but I usually lose from 5 - 8 and I keep off about 2-3.

I don't do it for the lost, I do it because your body needs to RELAX ... processed foods as well as MEATS are harsh on your body and hard to digest ... eating natural, fruits/veggies/nuts is they way to go!

Why are you yelling?

Back in the day planes didn't exist. So we were not meant to fly right? Are you against getting on a plane?
Are you against watching TV or making a phone call?
How about toilet paper? Should we use leaves?

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

I've been a vegetarian for 24 years. Yes, maybe you don't need meat to survive, however, some people actually do. I have a friend who turned vegetarian and developed an allergy to beans. My nephew is allergic to anything everything soy and nut related. So if he can't eat soy/nuts/tempeh/etc...what would you recommend he eat for protein? He's 17 and needs a lot of food. Don't say protein shakes either, the boy likes to chew his food.

I and lots of vegetarians actually do have/develop iron deficiencies so we may need supplements. It's awesome that you don't, but that's not the case for everyone...

Also, really, meat & carbs together turn into poison in the stomach and intestines??? Why has no one contacted poison control about this? Why are people not in the hospital all day every day from this very thing?!?!?!

_HeartsOnFire_

@ohaston--

I find the "we're the only animals that . . ." argument in this thread just as silly as when it shows up in milk threads. Just because we're the only ones to do something, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done. We're also the only animals who drive and use computers.

Also the fact that you can't stick to this "diet" is a testament to the fact that it isn't sustainable long term.

Our brain power really is not part of the discussion ( our digestive track, macros , etc seems to be ) and animals have been trained to use computers (google it) ... and I don't stick to it because I don't have a desire to.... I LIKE to eat other foods as well ... I've never got into an argument on MFP and I won't start now ... don't know anything about "milk threads" AND I don't call people silly ... neither of us (from the looks of it) are any specialists in any of these areas ... we are common ppl, for the most part, trying to be healthy, lose weight, get advise, and motivation. At least, thats why Im here!.
Have a good day ladybug!

Saying an argument is silly =/= calling you silly.

1princesswarrior

Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines?...
BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

Just out of curiosity, as a person with a M.S. in Chemistry. Did you learn this in a stomach environment? Because stomach acid pretty much is about the strongest naturally occurring acid that I know of.

ohaston

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

There are other medical conditions that arise from a vegetarian eating lifestyle...I read an article where a woman while pregnant developed a disorder where her body could not metoablize fats because of her vegetarian diet...the doctors caught it early enough and helped her reverse it but her son that was born...it's chronic now...so don't tell me we don't need certian foods.

As for the other lets see a study that proves that before you start spread that mis-information.

As well I can guarantee you a wolf or bear or any other meat eating animal would eat a bbq'd steak given that chance...just like my cat will drink my milk out of my cereal bowl given the chance...

I'd like to see a source for that as well. That applies to actual humans, not test tubes.

Do your research if you like, pH balances are extremely important .. All Im saying is certain foods are either acid-forming or alkaline-forming ... You can find countless studies on the matter ... mixing them improperly (well, I've already said this, so ... )
For me, this discussion is over ... OP ... good luck and God bless you all!

_HeartsOnFire_

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

There are other medical conditions that arise from a vegetarian eating lifestyle...I read an article where a woman while pregnant developed a disorder where her body could not metoablize fats because of her vegetarian diet...the doctors caught it early enough and helped her reverse it but her son that was born...it's chronic now...so don't tell me we don't need certian foods.

As for the other lets see a study that proves that before you start spread that mis-information.

As well I can guarantee you a wolf or bear or any other meat eating animal would eat a bbq'd steak given that chance...just like my cat will drink my milk out of my cereal bowl given the chance...

I'd like to see a source for that as well. That applies to actual humans, not test tubes.

Do your research if you like, pH balances are extremely important .. All Im saying is certain foods are either acid-forming or alkaline-forming ... You can find countless studies on the matter ... mixing them improperly (well, I've already said this, so ... )
For me, this discussion is over ... OP ... good luck and God bless you all!

The burden of proof is on you. If you are going to spout this, then you need to back up your facts.

And again, mixing them =/= equal poison or people would be in the emergency room and a lot more calls to poison control.

Rlboston

I am trying to adhere to Dr. Hymans 10 day detox right now, I do great at lunch but need work still on the breakfast shake and the dinners Ive done so so. However it does have proteins but no red meat on it, you can look it up online if you havent heard of it before, I just started it end of last week and I have only weighed in once since then and had lost 2 lbs. I am starting to feel a bit better, little more energy etc... Would probably be even better if I get more disciplined about the bfast and dinner. Good luck keep us posted on how it goes.

ohaston

@ohaston--

I find the "we're the only animals that . . ." argument in this thread just as silly as when it shows up in milk threads. Just because we're the only ones to do something, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done. We're also the only animals who drive and use computers.

Also the fact that you can't stick to this "diet" is a testament to the fact that it isn't sustainable long term.

Our brain power really is not part of the discussion ( our digestive track, macros , etc seems to be ) and animals have been trained to use computers (google it) ... and I don't stick to it because I don't have a desire to.... I LIKE to eat other foods as well ... I've never got into an argument on MFP and I won't start now ... don't know anything about "milk threads" AND I don't call people silly ... neither of us (from the looks of it) are any specialists in any of these areas ... we are common ppl, for the most part, trying to be healthy, lose weight, get advise, and motivation. At least, thats why Im here!.
Have a good day ladybug!

Saying an argument is silly =/= calling you silly.

Silly is ok LOL .. I've been called worst!

AllonsYtotheTardis

Our brain power really is not part of the discussion

that much is obvious

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

There are other medical conditions that arise from a vegetarian eating lifestyle...I read an article where a woman while pregnant developed a disorder where her body could not metoablize fats because of her vegetarian diet...the doctors caught it early enough and helped her reverse it but her son that was born...it's chronic now...so don't tell me we don't need certian foods.

As for the other lets see a study that proves that before you start spread that mis-information.

As well I can guarantee you a wolf or bear or any other meat eating animal would eat a bbq'd steak given that chance...just like my cat will drink my milk out of my cereal bowl given the chance...

I'd like to see a source for that as well. That applies to actual humans, not test tubes.

Do your research if you like, pH balances are extremely important .. All Im saying is certain foods are either acid-forming or alkaline-forming ... You can find countless studies on the matter ... mixing them improperly (well, I've already said this, so ... )
For me, this discussion is over ... OP ... good luck and God bless you all!

Since you're the one making the claim it's your job to provide the studies. That's how it works.

_HeartsOnFire_

Our brain power really is not part of the discussion

that much is obvious

It's funny as a vegetarian I never really thought I'd ever defend people eating meat.

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xiamjackie

There's nothing wrong with trying some things out. Not everyone on here will have the same lifestyle/advice/opinion, etc. I, myself, follow IIFYM (if it fits your macros) meaning I eat whatever I want as long as I follow my macro guidelines. Right now I am loosely following and not really counting, as it kind of messes with my head. Some people follow "clean" eating, some just count calories, others are on VLCD diets, etc.

ANYWAY, I see no harm in trying a week or so of eating veggies and fruit. As long as you are getting your calories in for the day, go for it. I'd *suggest* not to make it a long-term lifestyle, as it's difficult to get sufficient protein from just fruits and veggies alone. Not impossible, but it is difficult. Do what's right for you. Everyone on here will have an opinion either way.

3dogsrunning

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

There are other medical conditions that arise from a vegetarian eating lifestyle...I read an article where a woman while pregnant developed a disorder where her body could not metoablize fats because of her vegetarian diet...the doctors caught it early enough and helped her reverse it but her son that was born...it's chronic now...so don't tell me we don't need certian foods.

As for the other lets see a study that proves that before you start spread that mis-information.

As well I can guarantee you a wolf or bear or any other meat eating animal would eat a bbq'd steak given that chance...just like my cat will drink my milk out of my cereal bowl given the chance...

I'd like to see a source for that as well. That applies to actual humans, not test tubes.

Do your research if you like, pH balances are extremely important .. All Im saying is certain foods are either acid-forming or alkaline-forming ... You can find countless studies on the matter ... mixing them improperly (well, I've already said this, so ... )
For me, this discussion is over ... OP ... good luck and God bless you all!

RaspberryKeytoneBoondoggle

I've used a Mango Body scrub does that count?

That's what I wanted to say! Except I was going to include a recipe with ground almonds and apricots that I just invented:-(

Hornsby

YES I HAVE AND ITS FEELS GREAT ! ! !!
I do an all raw fruit and veggie detox (for lack of better words) and I HAVE YET TO NOT FEEL BETTER BY DAY 2 ... and OMG the water weight that comes off ... I urinate about 9 times in a 10 hr shift.

I also do lemon water during this time ... I just finished one .. yet this time I did incorporate chicken breat and a lil salad dressing ... (STILL FELT GOOD) ... Its not about a quick fad , its just that we were designed to eat off the LAND ... Think about it this way ...

WE ARE THE ONLY ANIMALS THAT HAVE TO COOK THEIR MEAT BEFORE THEY CONSUME IT ... WHY??? B/C WE WERE NOT DESIGNED TO EAT THEM ANYWAY ...
Ok, let me know get biblical (God forbid, I have MFPals hitting me from every angle) ...

ALSO, I do eat lots of nuts, coconut, and olive oil ... So Im getting a little protein and some good fats.

I even did black beans in my salad this past time.

I do it about once every couple of months! Look at my pics, you will see what I eat during those times.
I know some things are MIND OVER MATTER ... and if you think it, it is ... and that a persons perception becomes their reality ... all those good things ...

BUT , all I know is ... I go from sluggish to BURSTING with energy when I eat all natural.

So you ask, why don't I do this long term, ONLY B/C it gets boring after awhile and I still have a LOVE affair with food ... So, I want an occasion sweet potato, some cheese, a bag of corn chips, some brown rice, etc ... So I end up going back to cooked foods.

All Im saying is ... IT WON'T hurt ya ... Try if for a few days ( I always do at least 3 at a time ) ... stay close to a bathroom b/c you are going to urinate your butt off ...

Inbox me when you're done and tell me how you feel and how much water weight you've lost ... NOW yes you will gain some of it back, especially if you go right back to eating processed foods, etc but I usually lose from 5 - 8 and I keep off about 2-3.

I don't do it for the lost, I do it because your body needs to RELAX ... processed foods as well as MEATS are harsh on your body and hard to digest ... eating natural, fruits/veggies/nuts is they way to go!

Why are you yelling?

Back in the day planes didn't exist. So we were not meant to fly right? Are you against getting on a plane?
Are you against watching TV or making a phone call?
How about toilet paper? Should we use leaves?

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

I'm really sorry you are so confused about nutrition and that some poor soul out there might read your post and think they are facts.

If someone is dumb enough to believe that without a shred of evidence posted, let natural selection run it's course...

srslybritt

YES I HAVE AND ITS FEELS GREAT ! ! !!
I do an all raw fruit and veggie detox (for lack of better words) and I HAVE YET TO NOT FEEL BETTER BY DAY 2 ... and OMG the water weight that comes off ... I urinate about 9 times in a 10 hr shift.

I also do lemon water during this time ... I just finished one .. yet this time I did incorporate chicken breat and a lil salad dressing ... (STILL FELT GOOD) ... Its not about a quick fad , its just that we were designed to eat off the LAND ... Think about it this way ...

WE ARE THE ONLY ANIMALS THAT HAVE TO COOK THEIR MEAT BEFORE THEY CONSUME IT ... WHY??? B/C WE WERE NOT DESIGNED TO EAT THEM ANYWAY ...
Ok, let me know get biblical (God forbid, I have MFPals hitting me from every angle) ...

ALSO, I do eat lots of nuts, coconut, and olive oil ... So Im getting a little protein and some good fats.

I even did black beans in my salad this past time.

I do it about once every couple of months! Look at my pics, you will see what I eat during those times.
I know some things are MIND OVER MATTER ... and if you think it, it is ... and that a persons perception becomes their reality ... all those good things ...

BUT , all I know is ... I go from sluggish to BURSTING with energy when I eat all natural.

So you ask, why don't I do this long term, ONLY B/C it gets boring after awhile and I still have a LOVE affair with food ... So, I want an occasion sweet potato, some cheese, a bag of corn chips, some brown rice, etc ... So I end up going back to cooked foods.

All Im saying is ... IT WON'T hurt ya ... Try if for a few days ( I always do at least 3 at a time ) ... stay close to a bathroom b/c you are going to urinate your butt off ...

Inbox me when you're done and tell me how you feel and how much water weight you've lost ... NOW yes you will gain some of it back, especially if you go right back to eating processed foods, etc but I usually lose from 5 - 8 and I keep off about 2-3.

I don't do it for the lost, I do it because your body needs to RELAX ... processed foods as well as MEATS are harsh on your body and hard to digest ... eating natural, fruits/veggies/nuts is they way to go!

Why are you yelling?

Back in the day planes didn't exist. So we were not meant to fly right? Are you against getting on a plane?
Are you against watching TV or making a phone call?
How about toilet paper? Should we use leaves?

Don't let my caps offend you!! Im excited not yelling dear, BESIDES, Im only telling you that humans don't have to have meat to survive... I grew up vegetarian and most of my family and have NEVER suffered from Iron, B vitamins defecits etc .
And if want to use leaves, be my guess... (advancements in technology really doesn't fit my msg) ... Do you know that you're not suppose to mix alkalines and acids when eating ? because they turn to poison in your stomach and intestines? ALTHOUGH nutrionists tell you to eat from all food groups at each or MOST meals ... BUT its been determined by Chemists in a lab (thats were I learned this from {organic chemistry}) you do not mix them together ... Thats carbs and meats ... they shouldn't be consumed at the same time.
Listen, we can go around and around ... all Im saying is .. eating natural can be done and you will feel good... UNLESS you have some other issues like IBS, etc .
Have a good day!

I've been a vegetarian for 24 years. Yes, maybe you don't need meat to survive, however, some people actually do. I have a friend who turned vegetarian and developed an allergy to beans. My nephew is allergic to anything everything soy and nut related. So if he can't eat soy/nuts/tempeh/etc...what would you recommend he eat for protein? He's 17 and needs a lot of food. Don't say protein shakes either, the boy likes to chew his food.

I and lots of vegetarians actually do have/develop iron deficiencies so we may need supplements. It's awesome that you don't, but that's not the case for everyone...

Also, really, meat & carbs together turn into poison in the stomach and intestines??? Why has no one contacted poison control about this? Why are people not in the hospital all day every day from this very thing?!?!?!

My vegetarian diet contributed immensely to my anemia and I was basically told by my doctor to knock that sh*$ off or continue to suffer. After adding back in protein in the form of lean meats (usually white meat like chicken) and fish, I was much better off. I still do as much as possible not to contribute to excessive animal cruelty (animal testing, brands that are known for cruel raising/slaughtering, etc), but a vegetarian diet plan is not a feasible option for me.

Also, if I'm supposed to believe what you're claiming was discovered by "a chemist" in "a lab," I'm going to need some concrete proof. Which chemist, what lab? Is there somewhere I can read his/her lab notes or the final write-up?

(Not arguing the point above, merely adding anecdotal evidence)