Female weakling wants to build strength. Advice?
bunnylion
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Hello there!
So I decided it's time to get muscular. Why? Because:
1. Weak back = pain
2. I want to be able to do stuff like (help) carry a beer keg and open jars by myself
3. After reading a whole lot, muscle seems like the only reasonable way to lose fat and keep it off
I find it motivating to go along with some instructional video. Makes me feel less alone in my suffering. Being the girl that I am, I looked for some fun fitness vid focusing a bit more on building muscle. I found the 30DS, tried it and died. Well, almost.
So I am a weakling and need to start with something really easy. I can't do push ups. No, not even on my knees. I can do a few using a table, though. Yay!
Like all so many females my fitness experience so far has been focused on cardio. I'm no overachiever in that area either but even when untrained I can run a 5K without dying and when I do train I improve reasonably quickly.
So here is my question for you: How does a weakling with no experience in all that muscly stuff start improving strength?
If you know some fun videos that would be great, but I'm really thankful for any hint whatsoever.
Ciao and thanks!
Bunny
PS: I'm motivated: I bought a couple of dumbbells. Now what do I do with them?
So I decided it's time to get muscular. Why? Because:
1. Weak back = pain
2. I want to be able to do stuff like (help) carry a beer keg and open jars by myself
3. After reading a whole lot, muscle seems like the only reasonable way to lose fat and keep it off
I find it motivating to go along with some instructional video. Makes me feel less alone in my suffering. Being the girl that I am, I looked for some fun fitness vid focusing a bit more on building muscle. I found the 30DS, tried it and died. Well, almost.
So I am a weakling and need to start with something really easy. I can't do push ups. No, not even on my knees. I can do a few using a table, though. Yay!
Like all so many females my fitness experience so far has been focused on cardio. I'm no overachiever in that area either but even when untrained I can run a 5K without dying and when I do train I improve reasonably quickly.
So here is my question for you: How does a weakling with no experience in all that muscly stuff start improving strength?
If you know some fun videos that would be great, but I'm really thankful for any hint whatsoever.
Ciao and thanks!
Bunny
PS: I'm motivated: I bought a couple of dumbbells. Now what do I do with them?
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Following. Would love to read the responses you get0
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Read New Rules of Lifting for Women - amazing book. You may also want to get a few personal training sessions at a gym to learn the proper form for lifting.0
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Here is what I did. I was pretty athletic. Then I got sick...I was diagnosed with Lupus. I have been in full remission - no medication or anything - for nearly a year. I went straight back to the gym and did a few challenges to bring back my muscles. But since you are starting out - you want to build your own strength back slowly. Have you ever tried yoga? That's the first thing I did. It helped me be able to life myself again. How many push ups can you do? Amazingly I was shocked at how I could barely do one without shaking when I started up. This one is pretty easy - found it on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXdSo-8nQw
Also my fav exercises to do that require nothing but space are planks and burpees.0 -
I recommend starting with some simple body weight calisthenics, like the table pushups, jumping jacks, sit-ups and deep knee bends. With the pushups, work toward 20 reps, then see if you can do 10 knee pushups. Work up to 25 or 30 knee pushups, and start working on planks. Once you can do 25 or 30 knee pushups and a one minute plank, then you could try doing full pushups. It would be good to have someone evaluate your form. I wouldn't go to a personal trainer, because they will probably overwork you on the weights. Once you get to a one minute plank, your back should start feeling much stronger and better. Hold off on picking up the beer kegs for a while and try not to play Hercules if you drink too much.0
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I've used this workout plan for the past year or so (I just keep repeating phase 2). I like it because, for each exercise, there's a video with a voiceover that explains each step in the exercise,a detailed explanation of how the perform the exercise, and a list of alternative exercises that work the same muscle area. (I don't follow the diet and supplements recommendations, though there are some tasty protein bar recipes.)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jamie-easons-livefit-phase-1.html0 -
I second New Rules of Lifting for Women. It's a book, not a video. But it is heavy lifting that starts out high rep/low weight and progresses you into low rep/high weight, so it can be a great starter program for women who are specifically weak in the strength department and used to cardio.
However, the key to any progressive training is that you have to not be afraid to fail sometimes. That's how you get better. If you're doing a video and it's too difficult, that's all the more reason to KEEP doing it time and again. So, whether you lift heavy iron, do body weight exercises, or following a video, you're going to have to have some days of feeling a little like you're dying before you get any better.0 -
Another recommendation for New Rules, but if you are that weak you might want to talk to a doctor first, maybe ask about some physical therapy or something first. Backs are not something to mess around with.0
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Check out http://www.fitnessblender.com/
Husband and wife team of trainers and they have hundreds of free videos for every level and tell you how to modify as well...all different types of workouts from short in length to long!0 -
If your back is giving you trouble now, then I would suggest walking (not running) and yoga to start. Since you already have a problem in that area the first exercises you do for your back should all be based upon only your body weight with no added weight. Only add weights once moving your own body weight is not a challenge.
Your arms and legs you can go ahead and use the weights you bought if your own body weight is not challenging. That may sound strange, but there are some rotor cuff muscles in your shoulder that, starting out, often have a hard time just lifting the weight of your arms, if you put your arms into a position that isolates a single small muscle out of the group.
It is best if you have someone who knows free-weights teach you how to use them, but you can also use a combination of book learning and online videos. I suggest trying each lift as full reps and sets with imaginary weights the first time, to make sure your own body weight is not a challenge for those muscle groups and so you can focus on the form you have read or watched about. You may have old injuries you don't recall that speak up when you do this. When you know you're ok, then try adding weight.
If you bought the kind of weights that has a bar with plate-weights added to the ends, remember that the empty bar also is a weight on its own and for some small muscle groups this may be enough to start with.
I learned basic principles of lifting from a competitive power-lifter who was a college classmate and from books, but don't recall specific exercises and so don't consider myself particularly knowledgeable about weight-lifting. So I'm open to corrections from current experts, with the caveat the OP mentions being unusually weak and having back pain, so I'm going to guess maybe other past injuries to work around too.0 -
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I never lifted weights. Then i joined a crossfit gym. I have no interest in competitions or having 10% body fat... But if helped me get into the best shape I have ever been in... still have a way to go before goal... but My upper body strength and tone/definition is unlike anything I have ever had. I LOVE IT.0
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starting strength
strong lifts
new rules of lifting
or even strong curves.
Get it out of your head this is a female game.
It's not- it's weight training- there is no female/male anything. You just start training to get stronger.
Don't worry about getting bulky- it's laughable difficult to do so. At a moderate calorie deficit you can still get stronger- still lose fat. Win win around.
go forth- be fabulous!0 -
Short Answer: Lift heavy things.
First of all, 30 Day Shred isn't going to help you build muscle. It's cardio. You need to lift weights like everyone else that wants to gain a considerable amount of strength. Start a program like StrongLifts 5x5, Strong Curves, Starting Strength, or New Rules of Lifting for Women.0 -
Short Answer: Lift heavy things.
First of all, 30 Day Shred isn't going to help you build muscle. It's cardio. You need to lift weights like everyone else that wants to gain a considerable amount of strength. Start a program like StrongLifts 5x5, Strong Curves, Starting Strength, or New Rules of Lifting for Women.
I agree to a point with this...
30DS however does have bodyweight training in it...I started with that back in June of 2013 and had a hard time doing pushups...mid august I was doing full on non modified pushups and keeping up with the "advanced" routine.
To the OP start with some bodyweight exercises, do those until you are ready to add some weight in then use your dumbells but be warned it won't be long before you have out grown those....
then start lifting heavy stuff.0 -
I've used this workout plan for the past year or so (I just keep repeating phase 2). I like it because, for each exercise, there's a video with a voiceover that explains each step in the exercise,a detailed explanation of how the perform the exercise, and a list of alternative exercises that work the same muscle area. (I don't follow the diet and supplements recommendations, though there are some tasty protein bar recipes.)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jamie-easons-livefit-phase-1.html
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately the program seems to mainly use studio equipment. Maybe I should have mentioned that I need something I can do at home... I have crazy schedule sometimes and it's a lot easier for me to squeeze in a workout at home.0 -
I was recommended Superman's to help with back (my back area is weak too):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc6UVRS7PW4
as well as sit-ups on an incline bench (your head at the bottom, your feet at the top, bring your torso up to the halfway point )0 -
I've used this workout plan for the past year or so (I just keep repeating phase 2). I like it because, for each exercise, there's a video with a voiceover that explains each step in the exercise,a detailed explanation of how the perform the exercise, and a list of alternative exercises that work the same muscle area. (I don't follow the diet and supplements recommendations, though there are some tasty protein bar recipes.)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jamie-easons-livefit-phase-1.html
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately the program seems to mainly use studio equipment. Maybe I should have mentioned that I need something I can do at home... I have crazy schedule sometimes and it's a lot easier for me to squeeze in a workout at home.
Convict Conditioning0 -
Do others have any opinions on the book "Strength Training for Women" by Lauri Incledon?
What about "5 hour body" (a title which I find amusing because I suspect most people spend less than 5 hours a week working out already)?0 -
I recommend New Rules of Lifting for Women as well.
When I started the program, I wasn't a "newbie" to weight lifting. I have still had great success with it and have made some pretty awesome strength gains in just Stage 1 of the program. The book is very informative, has pictures of the moves, and offers a bunch of variations if you are unable to do some of the moves.0 -
I second New Rules of Lifting for Women. It's a book, not a video. But it is heavy lifting that starts out high rep/low weight and progresses you into low rep/high weight, so it can be a great starter program for women who are specifically weak in the strength department and used to cardio.
However, the key to any progressive training is that you have to not be afraid to fail sometimes. That's how you get better. If you're doing a video and it's too difficult, that's all the more reason to KEEP doing it time and again. So, whether you lift heavy iron, do body weight exercises, or following a video, you're going to have to have some days of feeling a little like you're dying before you get any better.
New Rules of Lifting for Women sounds interesting. But how much equipment do you need for that? I have a tiny one-room-apartment and wouldn't know how to fit a full set of weight anywhere :-(
Yes, you are absolutely right about needing to die a little to improve. With cardio I know how my body feels and when I can push a little more and when I really need to stop. With strength training I don't have this experience (yet), so I want to start easy to make sure I don't hurt myself.0 -
I've used this workout plan for the past year or so (I just keep repeating phase 2). I like it because, for each exercise, there's a video with a voiceover that explains each step in the exercise,a detailed explanation of how the perform the exercise, and a list of alternative exercises that work the same muscle area. (I don't follow the diet and supplements recommendations, though there are some tasty protein bar recipes.)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jamie-easons-livefit-phase-1.html
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately the program seems to mainly use studio equipment. Maybe I should have mentioned that I need something I can do at home... I have crazy schedule sometimes and it's a lot easier for me to squeeze in a workout at home.
You will want some kind of weight-bench to use at home, but figure out what exercises you will be doing first so you know what kind best suits your needs. To start out sometimes two chairs with a heavy plank between them for you to lay on, can work.
The reason you need a weight bench is because some exercises require you to move weights against gravity perpendicular to your body's long-axis, through a range of motion that would put your arms or legs below the plane of the floor if you tried to lay on the floor.
I got one at Target for about $80. Look around you can find cheap ones. Don't forget Craigslist.0 -
Learn the basics of free weight training. After that, you can add all those machines into the mix to enhance the base you built using free weights.0
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Short Answer: Lift heavy things.
First of all, 30 Day Shred isn't going to help you build muscle. It's cardio. You need to lift weights like everyone else that wants to gain a considerable amount of strength. Start a program like StrongLifts 5x5, Strong Curves, Starting Strength, or New Rules of Lifting for Women.
Hahaha. I didn't die of the cardio in the 30 Day Shred, that's for sure :flowerforyou: I'm not necessarily looking for a strict weight lifting program. I don't mind if there is some cardio in it as well. Maybe it might even make transitioning from cardio to strength a bit easier to have a bit of a mixed program?0 -
I swear by Jillian Michaels DVDs. I've used almost all of them & love the results. Like you, I used to spend most of my time doing cardio. I never picked up a weight before JM's DVDs, but now I'm obsessed.
You tried 30DS & didn't like it/it was too difficult, which I totally understand. For a beginner, I would recommend JM's Body Revolution. It's more expensive than 30DS because it is a 15 DVD system that starts off for beginners & then works up to more advanced levels over the course of 3 months. There are many modifications for almost every move. I think that the Body Revolution program would be more friendly toward beginners.
One of my favorite things about Body Revolution is that JM does the routines with a whole cast of different people with different personalities. It makes it feel like I'm not alone. Good luck!0 -
I highly recommend Body by You. Huge variation in body weight exercises and levels of difficulty plus a defined plan to help you get stronger. You can do it at home or at a playground if you want.0
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I swear by Jillian Michaels DVDs. I've used almost all of them & love the results. Like you, I used to spend most of my time doing cardio. I never picked up a weight before JM's DVDs, but now I'm obsessed.
You tried 30DS & didn't like it/it was too difficult, which I totally understand. For a beginner, I would recommend JM's Body Revolution. It's more expensive than 30DS because it is a 15 DVD system that starts off for beginners & then works up to more advanced levels over the course of 3 months. There are many modifications for almost every move. I think that the Body Revolution program would be more friendly toward beginners.
One of my favorite things about Body Revolution is that JM does the routines with a whole cast of different people with different personalities. It makes it feel like I'm not alone. Good luck!
Thanks for the encouraging words! I actually have Body Revolution but after my experience with the 30DS I didn't dare to do it :blushing: Maybe one of there days I feel brave enough to have a look. Maybe after doing some more table push ups....0 -
I swear by Jillian Michaels DVDs. I've used almost all of them & love the results. Like you, I used to spend most of my time doing cardio. I never picked up a weight before JM's DVDs, but now I'm obsessed.
You tried 30DS & didn't like it/it was too difficult, which I totally understand. For a beginner, I would recommend JM's Body Revolution. It's more expensive than 30DS because it is a 15 DVD system that starts off for beginners & then works up to more advanced levels over the course of 3 months. There are many modifications for almost every move. I think that the Body Revolution program would be more friendly toward beginners.
One of my favorite things about Body Revolution is that JM does the routines with a whole cast of different people with different personalities. It makes it feel like I'm not alone. Good luck!
lol- if you're doing a DVD at home- odds are you are still doing cardio.0 -
I highly recommend Body by You. Huge variation in body weight exercises and levels of difficulty plus a defined plan to help you get stronger. You can do it at home or at a playground if you want.
I actually own that, too :blushing: Turns out I'm not great at following exercise instructions from a book. :sad:0 -
Ok, as I had never heard about half the names you were throwing around, I did some googeling and tried to summarize all the things suggested:
Books (equipment/Gym needed):
Read New Rules of Lifting for Women
StrongLifts 5x5
Strong Curves
Starting Strength
Strength Training for Women by Lori Incledon
Books (Body weight only):
Body by You/You Are Your Own Gym
Convict Conditioning
Books (other):
5 hour body (?? I could only find The 4-Hour Body, is this what you meant? The 4-Hour Body seems like complete nonsense to me...)
Online programs:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jamie-easons-livefit-phase-1.html (Online program to do in studio -- weird concept?)
http://www.fitnessblender.com/ (all kinds of videos both cardio and strength, seems to be all free?)
Gym:
Crossfit gym (What is that??)
Lift heavy things
DVDs (few weights needed):
Body Revolution by JM0 -
Check out Nerdfitness.
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/12/09/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/0
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