Why does mfp thing lifting weights burns next to nothing?
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I always add my weight lifting as cardio, because I think that you MUST burn tons of calories while lifting. However If you list it under "strength training" you don't get anywhere near as much. But which is right?
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- because weight-lifters spend most of their time sitting on the ends of benches between sets.
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:laugh:
Guilty as charged.0 -
I wear a HRM and log as cardio with calorie count from my HRM so hopefully it's pretty accurate.0
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- because weight-lifters spend most of their time sitting on the ends of benches between sets.
/troll
That's actually pretty accurate IMHO.0 -
I wear a HRM and log as cardio with calorie count from my HRM so hopefully it's pretty accurate.
I don't believe it. I've seen my heart rate hit 140+ bpm for doing just 30 seconds of work. I think WD = F x d would be a better way to calculate calories burnt.0 -
I wear a HRM and log as cardio with calorie count from my HRM so hopefully it's pretty accurate.0
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- because weight-lifters spend most of their time sitting on the ends of benches between sets.
/troll
That's actually pretty accurate IMHO.
Thank you - yes it was meant a bit tongue in cheek but when I do sets of pullups they are damned hard but I don't list them for calorie burn because I spend most of the session resting/recovering for the next set.
I burn more in a (Ashtanga) yoga session.0 -
- because weight-lifters spend most of their time sitting on the ends of benches between sets.
/troll
That's actually pretty accurate IMHO.
Thank you - yes it was meant a bit tongue in cheek but when I do sets of pullups they are damned hard but I don't list them for calorie burn because I spend most of the session resting/recovering for the next set.
I burn more in a (Ashtanga) yoga session.
Carl, I didn't know you did yoga.0 -
Carl, I didn't know you did yoga.
Ditto. I thought he was a fan of a certain cartoon.0 -
I wear a HRM and log as cardio with calorie count from my HRM so hopefully it's pretty accurate.
I don't believe it. I've seen my heart rate hit 140+ bpm for doing just 30 seconds of work. I think WD = F x d would be a better way to calculate calories burnt.
Yay, early morning physics!0 -
- because weight-lifters spend most of their time sitting on the ends of benches between sets.
/troll
Squats last night. Actual lifting time was under two minutes, including warm-up sets. Total recovery between sets and changing plates, closer to twenty minutes.0 -
every 100 pounds lifted is 1 calorie burned.... at least that is what they used to say....0
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You lift in the gym to tear muscle fibers. You eat and hydrate outside the gym to rebuild those muscle fibers stronger and better. Those muscle fibers then burn more calories just sitting around that fat does. Don't lift weights for the calorie burn - lift them for the muscle that burns calories.0
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One of the many reasons why using TDEE is better.0
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I think it depends on the weight resistance. Heavy deadlifts & squats get my heart rate in the 140's pretty easily.0
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I think it depends on the weight resistance. Heavy deadlifts & squats get my heart rate in the 140's pretty easily.
Heart rate is not a good indicator of calories burned for non steady state exercises.
yogicarl is correct - actual time 'moving' is not much unless doing a circuit/endurance type workout.0 -
One of the many reasons why using TDEE is better.
this, so much this0 -
If you are lifting for calories burn at the time of the exercise......it is next to nothing. You have to look long term.0
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- because weight-lifters spend most of their time sitting on the ends of benches between sets.
/troll
That's actually pretty accurate IMHO.
Thank you - yes it was meant a bit tongue in cheek but when I do sets of pullups they are damned hard but I don't list them for calorie burn because I spend most of the session resting/recovering for the next set.
I burn more in a (Ashtanga) yoga session.
Carl, I didn't know you did yoga.
Yogi Carl likes this - eh Booboo!0 -
It is not accurate to count strength training as cardio. I got this off of women's health mag and it is pretty consistent from what I have been reading. There are benefits to both.
Cardio Vs. Weight Training
What's Best for Weight Loss: Cardio or Strength Training?
An expert weighs in on how you should spend your gym timePublished: November 22, 2013 | By K. Aleisha Fetters
inShare.What's Best for Weight Loss: Cardio or Strength Training? An expert weighs in on how you should spend your gym time
iStock/ThinkStock.comThe question: To lose weight, should I spend my gym time doing more cardio or more strength training?
The expert: Personal trainer Mike Donavanik, C.S.C.S., C.P.T.
The answer: It depends what you mean by "lose weight." If you are in an epic battle with your scale, cardio is the way to go. If you want to look steamy under those fall sweaters, though, it's time to cozy up to strength training.
Minute per minute, cardio indisputably burns more calories than strength training, which could explain why compared to strength trainers, aerobic exercisers lose more weight in less time, according to a recent Duke University study.
Still, cardio doesn't do much for your muscles. Case in point: In one Penn State study, dieters lost 21 pounds whether they performed cardio or strength training. But for the cardio group, six of those pounds came from muscle, while the lifters lost almost pure fat—and probably fit into their skinny jeans better because of it.
Why? Strength training is the number-one way to build more muscle. And for every three pounds of muscle you gain, you can expect to burn an extra 120 calories a day without moving a single one of those muscles, says Donavanik.
That doesn't mean that you should retire your running shoes, though—especially if you're a stress eater. Cardio is one of the best ways to slash stress, which is a waistline-wrecker all by itself. The best solution? A fitness plan that includes both cardio and strength training. So check out how to your improve your strength-training routine and your learn how to fix your cardio workout mistakes.0 -
Ha ha. you see. I don't rest for long. I only rest for about 30 seconds between sets, lift heavy and do about five sets. Then on to the next exercise with as little rest as possible for about 40mins to an hour. I also do ten mins of cardio before i start lifting the twenty mins of cardio after.0
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Here's an article giving some recent studies for calories burned during weight training.
http://www.sparkpeople.com/blog/blog.asp?post=you_asked_how_many_calories_does_strength_training_burn0 -
You spend a lot of time resting in between sets. MFP doesn't think anything, if anything it over estimates the amount of calories (in my opinion) when lifting heavy weights.
Here's what you should do-
1. Lift weights not for the calorie burn benefit but for improving your strength and mitigating muscle loss while maintaining a calorie deficit. Use MFP's estimate for calories burnt, but cut the time in half. I really don't trust their estimate.
2. Do cardio and look for tredmils or ellipticals that adjust difficulty based on your target heart rate. So far from my experience I feel pretty safe using an elliptical that adjusts difficulty based on my heart rate and which allows me to enter my age and weight.
There's tons of benefits from lifting heavy weights, dont' be discouraged. And you do burn some calories at least.0 -
I agree completely with martinel2099. There are tons of benefits to lifting weights. However, burning tons of calories as if you are doing cardio is not one of them. Good luck in your goals.0
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I think it would be too hard to measure - lots of variables, plus one of the benefits of weight lifting is that you burn more calories at rest than you would otherwise.0
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I think it's because it does burn next to nothing. Weight lifting is for building muscle and getting stronger, not burning a large number of calories (although stronger muscles can make you burn more during cardio). That is why there is one area for logging strength training and another for logging cardio. I don't think weight lifting belongs in the cardio section.
My guess (I could be wrong) is that a HRM could be misleading about strength training because your heart rate goes up fairly quickly because your body is being strained while lifting weights. That doesn't necessarily mean there is a huge burn. Most people rest in between sets so they don't hurt themselves. They also alternate which muscles to work on so it's not the entire body at once. OTOH, HRM is good for cardio because it accurately measures how hard your body is working. Cardio can work the entire body rather than one set of muscles at a time. You can move your arms while jogging/running/walking. And dance moves like Zumba are a full body workout.0
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