Gained 4lbs over two days?

jkwolly

even though its already been said 10 or 15 times, I will say it again, PLEASE eat more! I know it sounds like the opposite of what you should do, but you need more net calories. 1200 is low, even for myself at 5'1". Netting anything below 1200 will most certainly NOT help you lose weight.

It most certainly has helped me lose weight.

eating consistently below BMR is not smart.

Why?

Errrybody needs to EAT MOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAR!

Eating that low is not sustainable, and why would you want to do that? Food is delicious.

Wuffles70

This is a really good point, especially as it sounds like OP has been craving a fair amount of salt lately...

robin52077

eating consistently below BMR is not smart.

Why?

because it's extremely difficult to get the nutrients your body needs long term in that few calories unless your eating is spot on. Notice I said consistently. One or two days here and there of really low cals won't cause any problems.

And I never said you can't lose weight, I just said it's not SMART. Nutritionally.

and stop trying to start arguments. It's not working.

paulzli

It sounds to me like you're putting your body in starvation mode.

Nope, it's not that. Why? Because starvation mode is a myth.

No offense to you, though... I know you're just trying to help her out. :flowerforyou:

Muscle breakdown before fat breakdown is a myth (only happens unless you are 4% body fat already). But metabolism slowing (adaptive thermogenesis) is a completely different story.

Long story short, your metabolism will never slow down to the point where a defecit wont cause you to lose weight, but it definitely can decrease the amount you can eat when you hit maintenance.

robin52077

metabolism slowing (adaptive thermogenesis) is a completely different story.

Long story short, your metabolism will never slow down to the point where a defecit wont cause you to lose weight, but it definitely can decrease the amount you can eat when you hit maintenance.

this is true.

you can eat less and less and keep losing weight. You will never hit a point where you will GAIN weight from eating too little. That is a complete misconception and bastardization of adaptive thermogenesis, which people have coined "starvation mode"

But you won't be very healthy. Your body does need nutrients. The balance is finding the calories that will allow you to lose weight WHILE maintaining your energy, hair, nails, skin, etc.

Which in MOST CASES, is 1200 or more. Rarely is it possible to meet all of a person's nutritional needs CONSISTENTLY on less than 1200. Yes there are exceptions. A 4'10" 96 lb woman could probably do it on 1000 just fine. But for the most part, MOST humans need at least 1200 calories to get in adequate nutrition.

DeguelloTex

eating consistently below BMR is not smart.

Why?

because it's extremely difficult to get the nutrients your body needs long term in that few calories unless your eating is spot on. Notice I said consistently. One or two days here and there of really low cals won't cause any problems.

And I never said you can't lose weight, I just said it's not SMART. Nutritionally.

and stop trying to start arguments. It's not working.

How is asking a question trying to start an argument?

Are you talking about macro or micro nutrients?

If my body has 90 pounds of fat and my body can convert 31 calories of fat per pound per day into energy, that gives me 2700 calories which, by itself, is at least my BMR. If I eat ~ 200 grams of protein (~800 calories) what problems should I expect to see if I continually eat under my BMR at how long should those problems take to manifest themselves, as long as I have sufficient body fat to provide the additional energy?

robin52077

If my body has 90 pounds of fat

apples and oranges.

we're talking about a 19 year old girl who wants to lose 25 more pounds. She is probably in a healthy weight range already, but we don't know her height so who knows.

Morbidly obese people can have huge deficits for a while because they DO have all that fat. This girl doesn't.

DeguelloTex

If my body has 90 pounds of fat

apples and oranges.

we're talking about a 19 year old girl who wants to lose 25 more pounds. She is probably in a healthy weight range already, but we don't know her height so who knows.

Morbidly obese people can have huge deficits for a while because they DO have all that fat. This girl doesn't.

You wrote, "eating consistently below BMR is not smart." You didn't limit it to a 19 year old girl wanting to lose 25 pounds.

If I understand you, you weren't intending to make a general statement about eating below BMR not being smart, you were talking specifically about the 19 year old but that there are scenarios in which eating below BMR might not be problematic at all. Is that a fair characterization?

robin52077

If my body has 90 pounds of fat

apples and oranges.

we're talking about a 19 year old girl who wants to lose 25 more pounds. She is probably in a healthy weight range already, but we don't know her height so who knows.

Morbidly obese people can have huge deficits for a while because they DO have all that fat. This girl doesn't.

You wrote, "eating consistently below BMR is not smart." You didn't limit it to a 19 year old girl wanting to lose 25 pounds.

If I understand you, you weren't intending to make a general statement about eating below BMR not being smart, you were talking specifically about the 19 year old but that there are scenarios in which eating below BMR might not be problematic at all. Is that a fair characterization?

I was speaking directly to the OP.

I would never make a generalized statement referring to ALL humans. *kitten* varies based on age, weight, height, sex, and medical conditions.

Yes, in the case of a morbidly obese individual, eating under BMR with medical supervision is sometimes even the best course of action for that person.

JenniferIsLosingIt

I was a little over on Sodium both days, but would that cause me to retain 4lbs of water weight?

YES YES YES!!!!! Sodium is one of my worst enemies, on any given day it can cause up to a 9 pound difference for me! I am not even kidding!! I have to monitor mine very carefully or the bloat will kill my numbers! So in response to that drink water till your eyeballsfloat and throw in some high potassium containing foods to help wash it out of yourbody! :)

JenniferIsLosingIt

Can you think of any event that might be coming up soon? Something that seems to happen every month for a few days.

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EvgeniZyntx

eating consistently below BMR is not smart.

Why?

because it's extremely difficult to get the nutrients your body needs long term in that few calories unless your eating is spot on. Notice I said consistently. One or two days here and there of really low cals won't cause any problems.

And I never said you can't lose weight, I just said it's not SMART. Nutritionally.

and stop trying to start arguments. It's not working.

How is asking a question trying to start an argument?

Are you talking about macro or micro nutrients?

If my body has 90 pounds of fat and my body can convert 31 calories of fat per pound per day into energy, that gives me 2700 calories which, by itself, is at least my BMR. If I eat ~ 200 grams of protein (~800 calories) what problems should I expect to see if I continually eat under my BMR at how long should those problems take to manifest themselves, as long as I have sufficient body fat to provide the additional energy?

Depending on how you do it - one can expect issues anywhere from 6-16 weeks.

In the 80s, low cal, pure high protein protocols led to a few deaths primarily due to renal filtration balance issues.
Today, an 800 cal diet is generally not recommended beyonf 12 weeks without taking into consideration other serious medical issues. Gallstone are reported to have a high frequency in these extended diets.

Context matters, of course.