Obama's Bday Card

Forty6and2

It comes down to this, if you are a marxist, communist, or hate the constitution - you will probably like wilson, obama, clinton, rosevelt etc etc etc...without even acknowledging that they ever made any mistakes, or were against the founders. The constitution was designed to tie up the government, not the people. The idea that it (the constitution) should tie up the people is an old monarchical theology. If that is what you believe, or you believe in communism, I don't have a problem with you, but if you lie about your beliefs, and seek to silence descent, than you are evil and repugnant.

Communism:

roanokejoe49

It comes down to this, if you are a marxist, communist, or hate the constitution - you will probably like wilson, obama, clinton, rosevelt etc etc etc...without even acknowledging that they ever made any mistakes, or were against the founders. The constitution was designed to tie up the government, not the people. The idea that it (the constitution) should tie up the people is an old monarchical theology. If that is what you believe, or you believe in communism, I don't have a problem with you, but if you lie about your beliefs, and seek to silence descent, than you are evil and repugnant.

This is the most simplistic, erroneous, and totally useless interpretation of how the government functions, and of our past Presidents' place in that history. You have no comprehension of Obama's presidency or how the US was founded or the principles still carrying on the Framer's ideals. STFU and get the tinfoil off your head.

MikeCrazy

communism, the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

MikeCrazy

It comes down to this, if you are a marxist, communist, or hate the constitution - you will probably like wilson, obama, clinton, rosevelt etc etc etc...without even acknowledging that they ever made any mistakes, or were against the founders. The constitution was designed to tie up the government, not the people. The idea that it (the constitution) should tie up the people is an old monarchical theology. If that is what you believe, or you believe in communism, I don't have a problem with you, but if you lie about your beliefs, and seek to silence descent, than you are evil and repugnant.

This is the most simplistic, erroneous, and totally useless interpretation of how the government functions, and of our past Presidents' place in that history. You have no comprehension of Obama's presidency or how the US was founded or the principles still carrying on the Framer's ideals. STFU and get the tinfoil off your head.

Actually, I know quite a bit about the history of the constitution, how it was based on principals from the magna carta and philosophies for John Locke and many others, but this is not the place to discuss such a broad topic. You obviously have an opinion, and can't see past anger or hatred of those that differ, so have a good day.

Forty6and2

communism, the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

And part of living in a communistic system is closing trade so the government can completely keep track of the economy. As far as I know, most of my sh[/b]it still comes from China. As a poster above said, you should probably include examples to back up your argument that any of these people are actually communist. Preferably not using just Wikipedia.

k8blujay2

MikeCrazy

communism, the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

And part of living in a communistic system is closing trade so the government can completely keep track of the economy. As far as I know, most of my sh[/b]it still comes from China. As a poster above said, you should probably include examples to back up your argument that any of these people are actually communist. Preferably not using just Wikipedia.

Wow, you cite trade with china, yet have the gal to say a communist/ socialist nation can't have open trade? Wow, just wow...

P.S. nothing I posted came from Wikipedia...thanks for trying...

KseRz

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Forty6and2

communism, the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

And part of living in a communistic system is closing trade so the government can completely keep track of the economy. As far as I know, most of my sh[/b]it still comes from China. As a poster above said, you should probably include examples to back up your argument that any of these people are actually communist. Preferably not using just Wikipedia.

Wow, you cite trade with china, yet have the gal to say a communist/ socialist nation can't have open trade? Wow, just wow...

They're communist in name only, the government keeps telling the people they're working for something bigger to keep them working but they aren't truly communist. A true communist society would not have classes and China does. Mostly the very rich and the very poor, but there are still classes.

MikeCrazy

I know right?!?! LOL great post!

Mikkimeow

roanokejoe49

Oh, I see your anger. What I don't see is one SHRED of proof that any policy put forth by the Obama administration has one damn thing to do with Communism. It's an asinine concept. Obama has made TONS of mistakes, and NONE of them have to do with Communism.
There is also no measuring stick on earth that can support your idea that Obama is one of the worst presidents in history. None.
If you had made a statement like "Obama has a flimsy foreign policy," you have an argument. If you said, "Obama's appointment of judges bordered on Executive overreach," you have an argument. You or anybody else on the planet, can make no argument saying the president espouses Communist policies. It's not a valid opinion. It's the kind of stuff that comes out of the mouths of whackjobs. You have a good day.

By the way, before you say that I am just a Democrat following the party line, I'm a Republican. A party to which I am ashamed to belong, currently.

MikeCrazy

communism, the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

And part of living in a communistic system is closing trade so the government can completely keep track of the economy. As far as I know, most of my sh[/b]it still comes from China. As a poster above said, you should probably include examples to back up your argument that any of these people are actually communist. Preferably not using just Wikipedia.

Wow, you cite trade with china, yet have the gal to say a communist/ socialist nation can't have open trade? Wow, just wow...

They're communist in name only, the government keeps telling the people they're working for something bigger to keep them working but they aren't truly communist. A true communist society would not have classes and China does. Mostly the very rich and the very poor, but there are still classes.

According to your definition there has never been true communism on the face if this planet. So please explain how your argument is valid.

branflakes1980

*Peeks head in, turns around and runs in the opposite direction SMDH* :noway:

MikeCrazy

Oh, I see your anger. What I don't see is one SHRED of proof that any policy put forth by the Obama administration has one damn thing to do with Communism. It's an asinine concept. Obama has made TONS of mistakes, and NONE of them have to do with Communism.
There is also no measuring stick on earth that can support your idea that Obama is one of the worst presidents in history. None.
If you had made a statement like "Obama has a flimsy foreign policy," you have an argument. If you said, "Obama's appointment of judges bordered on Executive overreach," you have an argument. You or anybody else on the planet, can make no argument saying the president espouses Communist policies. It's not a valid opinion. It's the kind of stuff that comes out of the mouths of whackjobs. You have a good day.

By the way, before you say that I am just a Democrat following the party line, I'm a Republican. A party to which I am ashamed to belong, currently.

John C. Drew, Ph.D., the award-winning political scientist, met Obama in 1980. In 2011 Drew wrote: “[Obama] believed that the economic stresses of the Carter years meant revolution was still imminent. The election of Reagan was simply a minor set-back in terms of the coming revolution. … Obama was blindly sticking to the simple Marxist theory … ‘there’s going to be a revolution.’ Obama said, ‘we need to be organized and grow the movement.’ In Obama’s view, our role must be to educate others so that we might usher in more quickly this inevitable revolution.”

But Drew didn’t stop there. Drew was at that time a Marxist himself and disagreed with Obama on how to bring about a revolution. Drew supported Barrington Moore’s theory that “a Russian or Chinese style revolution – leading to communism – was only possible in an agrarian society with a weak or non-existent middle-class or bourgeoisie.”

Drew ended his article by saying, “I know something about what Obama believed in 1980. At that time, the future president was a doctrinaire Marxist revolutionary.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/its-time-to-admit-obama-is-a-communist/#Q6bqvkpgRpK1uUrR.99

That's just a little example of one piece of evidence, of his stated leanings...as far as actual actions, I would refer to the Cloward and Pivon strategy.

949BeachMom

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roanokejoe49

http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/its-time-to-admit-obama-is-a-communist/#Q6bqvkpgRpK1uUrR.99

At some point you have to ask yourself why this supposed conversation, which happed almost 35 years ago, was never reported by the mainstream media, and why all this only appears in journals that nobody takes as remotely serious?

salembambi

my Prime Ministers birthday card is probably more entertaining and horrible

MikeCrazy

http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/its-time-to-admit-obama-is-a-communist/#Q6bqvkpgRpK1uUrR.99

At some point you have to ask yourself why this supposed conversation, which happed almost 35 years ago, was never reported by the mainstream media, and why all this only appears in journals that nobody takes as remotely serious?

Do we really need to pull the actual original article, or will you just disclaim that too? At some point you have to ask yourself, are there really people out there in politics lying to us?

It's an easy answer, because those in power seek power. Plain and simple. I'm not mad, nor am I just ranting. I'm an analyst by trade, and I just pull out facts. R or D I don't care, I support the original intent of the constitution despite the flaws of the men, if you are against that in word or deed, I note it. That is all.

Go_Mizzou99

in for the gifs

deksgrl

dpwellman

roanokejoe49

So...every journalist on the PLANET with access to the president just chooses not to ask him about this quote?

One of these articles is dated August of 2012, 3 months BEFORE the election. You believe that the most informed press corps in the history of the US chose NOT to approach the president about this? You really believe that Romney, who was destined for an electoral *kitten* whuppin in state polls (the only polls that matter in a national election), took the HIGH GROUND by not asking about this?

This P.h D is so renowned that he writes for...wait for it...a blog. Not the Economist. Not Newsweek. A blog. Sorry, dude. That's just a tinfoil mentality that I can't argue with.