Just diagnosed with Pre-diabetes

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  • Sugarbeat
    Sugarbeat Posts: 824 Member
    read the works of neal barnard and john mcdougall. Carbs aren't the bad guy.

    I couldn't disagree more with the latter part of your statement. As a diabetic simple carbs (cakes, cookies, candy etc) and even some "good" carbs are very much the "bad guy" and I don't need to read anyone's book to figure it out. If I eat the carbs, then read my monitor in the morning it tells me everything I need to know.

    OP, try www.bloodsugar101.com it has some really awesome advise.
  • Sugarbeat
    Sugarbeat Posts: 824 Member
    I will share my story with you, just to say what is possible for anyone. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes probably about 10-12 years ago. I was allowed to control it with diet and exercise for a while then, for whatever reason, I stopped taking care of myself the way I should and I gained a ton of weight and ended up on two different diabetes medications. For years my A1c would go up and down and up again. My doctor kept warning me that it will continue to get worse. One of the medications that I was taking had a side effect of weight gain, so I continued to gain weight all this time. About 2 years ago, I weighed 269lbs, and had an A1c of 11.2. I finally convinced my doctor that I needed to switch up some medicine, which he did, but added a third medication. I really made an effort to start tracking my food intake, getting regular exercise all year round and concentrating on getting healthy. Within about six months, I was able to discontinue one of the medications I was taking and had dropped my A1c down to 6.6. About six months after that I was able to drop the second med and the A1c was down to around 6.2. Now, almost two years later, I have cut the last medication dose in half- literally, because I now take half a pill in the am and half a pill in the pm, and my A1c is now 5.6. My goal is to be off all medication by the end of the year and my doctor says that I am making very good progress towards that goal. Now, this was/is a lot to go through, and in hind sight I wish that I had listened and done everything right from the beginning. My best advice is to weigh/measure what you eat, log everything and exercise regularly- year round. Learn from my mistakes and don't make the same ones. Add me if you want to. Best regards!

    Great job, well done! :flowerforyou:
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  • radmack
    radmack Posts: 272 Member
    Look on the bright side, isn't everyone pre-diabetic until they get diabeetus?

    Not really. There are lots of people who have perfectly normal blood sugar.
  • lindsey1979
    lindsey1979 Posts: 2,395 Member
    I totally understand how shocking this diagnosis can be. About 6 months ago, I got the same diagnosis -- A1C in pre-diabetic zone and I was only 30-40 lbs over my idea weight (being 5'9" it didn't look like much). Over 40% of US adults have insulin resistance in the diabetic and pre-diabetic ranges and most don't know it -- you and I are far from alone in this. Though, in my case, my doctor thinks it's a result of a long untreated thyroid disorder. This is what worked for me:

    (1) Getting proper medication for the thyroid and insulin resistance (my doc said I could go either way on the IR, but I opted for metformin)
    (2) Eating a primal diet -- a more relaxed version of Paleo that allows dairy where I specifically watch my carb intake. Primal doesn't have to be reduced carb, but I do that for the IR. I don't generally eat grains, pasta, pastries, etc. any more and look to keep my overall carbs at 100 g/day or less. I don't miss the grains/pasta/bread/etc. for the most part and was pleasantly surprised by how much better I feel without them in my diet. They were likely triggering my thyroid issue as well
    (3) Lots of low level cardio like walking and hiking - - helps with insulin sensitivity
    (4) Lifting heavy twice per week and a weekly sprint (HIIT) session

    For me, this resulted in finally losing weight like a "normal" person -- in line with my expected calorie deficits. This also made a HUGE difference in how I felt and my sugar/carb cravings. The cravings are virtually gone and I find eating this way to be really easy for me. It's often like French cuisine without the bread -- lots of great proteins, decadent sauces, butter, cream, veggies, fruits, etc.

    My A1C has been decreasing as I've lost the weight, but my doc doesn't want to take me off the metformin until I get down to my ideal weight (which is probably another 10-15 lbs). Then, we'll take me off it and see if my A1C will stay down. He said it's possible that this will reverse it, but we won't know until then. Good luck and feel free to PM if you'd like.
  • shellypaints
    shellypaints Posts: 49 Member
    I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic and glucose intolerant a month ago. I am on medication, started with metformin but was switched to glumetza after a bad reaction to the metformin. I am also on a carb restricted diet. I am allowed between 30-40 grams of carbs per meal and 10-15 grams for snacks. I have a list of foods to not eat and they include...

    grains and grain products such as; pasta, cereals, breads, pastries, oatmeal, rice, etc

    vegetables such as; potatoes, winter squash, carrots, english peas, corn, etc

    fruits such as; melons, pineapple, mangos, bananas, etc

    So by eliminating the above items my calorie intake is almost always a couple hundred less than what is allotted <1500. I also have become quite adept at looking for the carb content on labels as well. I have found one brand of flavored yogurt that is lower than 25 grams of carbs per serving all others including greek yogurts are around or above 30 grams. I am unable to tolerate the taste of plain yogurt just yet - I'm getting there but it's not easy.

    I have also discovered that organic whole milk has fewer carbs than skim milk. So for us that are battling pre diabetes and diabetes not all calories are created equal; for us carbs are bad.
    Shelly;

    Try this:
    http://tinyurl.com/ks5oktc

    It's plain, greek, whole milk (7 net carbs/3/4 cup)
    Mash up 10 raspberries and mix them in = 8 carbs (total) + yummmmmmmm

    As far as your "forbidden foods" - have a look here:
    http://tinyurl.com/ptlv7ur

    It should come up to page 13 but if it doesn't that's the page you need.

    Almost 100 years ago - 1917, your grandma (or Great GrandMa) knew what worked, even the Docs knew.

    Why does the current crop of "experts" (for the most part) STILL not "git it"?

    Wow that's pretty much how the endocrinologist I see laid it out to me. :)
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    I have been getting into dr.mcdougall's recommendations. He isn't totally out there, and has plenty of science and research in his lectures. (Available on youtube)

    his diet is based on whole starch foods, with the inclusion of vegetables, beans,and fruit. Cutting out oils, fats,and animal foods (especially those high in fat).

    I have GERD, and eating a diet high in starchy carbs and very low in fat makes me feel so much better. I am slim as well.

    My husband was prediabetic, but is now out of that range. He eats about the same as me (so many carbs!)but eats trail mix in the evening to keep weight on. He is also slim.

    We used to eat a lot of cheese, meat, and shwanns ice cream, with our spoons in the tub! Lots of homebaked cookies too. It was a delicious, and heart burn-y time in my life. I was also 175lbs then. So yeah, not going back anytime soon.
  • stronghealthywoman
    stronghealthywoman Posts: 44 Member
    My advise is look into Dr.McDougall, Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr T. Campbell and Dr. Esselstyn.

    They recommend a whole food plant based nutrition. How could a plant-base nutrition not make sense or help cure disease.

    The body is very intelligent that with the proper foods it can help it self.

    Look at the different documentaries there is with people being cured of cancer, if they beat cancer with nutrition, why not diabetes?
    I suggest watching Fork over Knives, Fat, sick and nearly dead and The Gerson Miracle.

    Also any vegetable is a CARB!, a good carb!, so since when are vegetables bad for you?!

    I say stay away from simple carbs, sugar, processed foods and anything that is not giving life to your life!

    I have been on a raw-vegan/juicing lifestyle for 2 years now and I have lost over 50lbs.

    This lifestyle will be change to your life, the good kind.

    Do the research and you will see for yourself!
  • WarriorCupcakeBlydnsr
    WarriorCupcakeBlydnsr Posts: 2,150 Member
    My suggestion would be, if you haven't already, go to an endocrinologist and get a full work up done, there may be more to it than being pre diabetic, then see a registered dietician who specializes in diabetic care, and get on a good (for you) exercise regimen.

    I gained 40 lbs in a year, I was working out 6 days a week (good balance of cardio and strength training) I had actually gone to the dietician at that point and was put on a 1700 calorie a day food plan because I really stink at counting calories and tracking, she gave me a food plan that was a balanced diet as long as I weigh and measure everything (I can do that, it's just the tracking I stinck at) but yet I was gaining. Went to the endocrinologist, and 14 tests later, it turned out I was insulin resistant and hypothyroid. She put me on levothyroxine and metformin. I called the dietician and asked her if I should make any changes to the food plan she had given me and she said that normally she would tell me to drop down to 1200 calories, but because of how much I work out, she didn't want me to change anything for a while, she said to keep it the same for now and see how it goes then start to drop 100 cals at a time if needed. By February my medication levels were evened out and I started losing weight. I've lost six lbs in about 5 months (not much by most people's standards here, but I'm fighting myself right now and I'm happy that I'm losing), as of my last blood tests, my c-peptide (test actually used for insulin resistance determination) is now in the normal range and holding. I may be able to start weaning off the metformin if the numbers continue to hold since I will now be able to manage my own insulin production/use.
  • skiextrm
    skiextrm Posts: 144 Member
    Lots of good advice. Have you talked to your doc about changing the Celexa to something else that might not affect your weight as much?