Gaining Muscle Mass
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If that point was that she attempts to hide ignorance behind terms like "hyperbole", then she succeeded brilliantly. This has nothing to do with semantics. If people don't want to be corrected, then they shouldn't post incorrect info on a public forum.
You've used your stunning intellect to make 60 posts in the last 3 years. Helped many people around here in that time with your gifts?
Hmmm. The silence is deafening...
Ad hominem. Good job.0 -
If that point was that she attempts to hide ignorance behind terms like "hyperbole", then she succeeded brilliantly. This has nothing to do with semantics. If people don't want to be corrected, then they shouldn't post incorrect info on a public forum.
You've used your stunning intellect to make 60 posts in the last 3 years. Helped many people around here in that time with your gifts?
Hmmm. The silence is deafening...
Ad hominem. Good job.
61 and still nothing?0 -
If that point was that she attempts to hide ignorance behind terms like "hyperbole", then she succeeded brilliantly. This has nothing to do with semantics. If people don't want to be corrected, then they shouldn't post incorrect info on a public forum.
You've used your stunning intellect to make 60 posts in the last 3 years. Helped many people around here in that time with your gifts?
Hmmm. The silence is deafening...
Ad hominem. Good job.
61 and still nothing?
Right, and using logical fallacies really shows your helping nature. Get bent.0 -
Kind of late to the party but the OP mentioned he only trains each body part once in seven days. I agree that more calories are essential for hypertrophy. Additionally though wouldn't working each body part 2X per week be required for hypertrophy? I think it's hard, if not impossible, to achieve muscle growth training once per week per body part.
Hey OP awesome job on the 9% bf. That's outstanding!
I'll have to try 5 Guys and see what all the hoopla's about. Being from Cali I've been spoiled by In-N-Out. 5 Guys are kind of the new kids on the block on the Left Coast.
Actually this method is very good for adding muscle(each 1x per week) as you can focus solely on that muscle group and you do an hour on just that. The muscle group done is so sore at the end. In reality yes you can do 2x a week but you wont be able to focus as much on that and 1x a week allows for a shorter work out since most cant do 3 hour lift sessions 5x a week. Personally I prefer 2x a week per group but my schedule doesnt permit it or I am in a plateau i switch to this method for a month. works great0 -
OP. why no carbs? Have you discussed your goals with your trainer?
The traditional cut and bulk cycle has been used by many people. I don't like being on a cut, but with such a low BF you're not gonna build muscle on 2000 calories per day. Fire your trainer and go eat something.0 -
Then maybe you shouldn't use hyperbole.
Your original post quite clearly singled out just a single burger, with absolutely no mention of extras. Adding a regular fry more than doubles the calories provided by any one burger on the menu, so that's a pretty ridiculous backpedal you have going there.add in fries and you easily hit 1000
Really? She was making a point. Do you work for five guys or something. One if the most annoying things in this site is people arguing over the minutia and semantics of a post when the bigger picture is clearly what's important.
If that point was that she attempts to hide ignorance behind terms like "hyperbole", then she succeeded brilliantly. This has nothing to do with semantics. If people don't want to be corrected, then they shouldn't post incorrect info on a public forum.
HAHA JoRocka she got Burger Ignorance! This is hilarious! Do you have some kind of burger paranoia?0 -
Haha this is great. Think crazy cat guy is hangry - pity there's no burgers over 1500 for him :laugh:
OP like everyone has said, you gotta eat if you want to build muscle. If you've got your protein down just add more carbs (and fat
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Haha this is great. Think crazy cat guy is hangry - pity there's no burgers over 1500 for him :laugh:
OP like everyone has said, you gotta eat if you want to build muscle. If you've got your protein down just add more carbs (and fat )
Agreed.
Carbs aren't the enemy here. They're going to be your friend!0 -
2000 is what I take while cutting and just got done with it.....Bulking falls more in like 4500-6000ish with proteins over 200ish-250ish0
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I think it has to do more with the fact that my trainer's first focus was dropping that bfi of mine that was high. She has done an amazing job tbh. 30 lbs of fat and almost 20% bfi off in one year is impressive as well as getting stronger. Thanks for the food tips, I think I will avoid the five guys, chips,oreo, ice cream tip... there is such a thing as food that is simply grease and bad for you.. (ps take the burger war to another thread pls ) No thanks. Besides I can outgrill those boys lol.
I like the beans idea too. I will switch some things around and post in a month on this to see hom I am progressing.0 -
I think it has to do more with the fact that my trainer's first focus was dropping that bfi of mine that was high. She has done an amazing job tbh. 30 lbs of fat and almost 20% bfi off in one year is impressive as well as getting stronger. Thanks for the food tips, I think I will avoid the five guys, chips,oreo, ice cream tip... there is such a thing as food that is simply grease and bad for you.. (ps take the burger war to another thread pls ) No thanks. Besides I can outgrill those boys lol.
I like the beans idea too. I will switch some things around and post in a month on this to see hom I am progressing.
If you're going to take one thing away from this thread:If you want to gain mass, eat more. If you're still not gaining after 2 weeks, eat more. Rinse, Repeat.
Internet pedantry is not required. Training hard and eating more is.
Doesn't matter where you get the nutrients. If you're not a fan of burger joints don't have them. But make sure you have something, anything. And if you want to build muscle, you'll find it a lot easier with carbs. Pasta/bread/rice - calorie dense and easy to eat.0 -
Resorting to snark is even more pathetic.
least I had something helpful to add- you're just cluttering up the board with your boredom. But thanks for playing.
The point has been made.
EAT MORE.
TRAIN HARD.Doesn't matter where you get the nutrients. If you're not a fan of burger joints don't have them. But make sure you have something, anything. And if you want to build muscle, you'll find it a lot easier with carbs. Pasta/bread/rice - calorie dense and easy to eat.
seriously.0 -
I think it has to do more with the fact that my trainer's first focus was dropping that bfi of mine that was high. She has done an amazing job tbh. 30 lbs of fat and almost 20% bfi off in one year is impressive as well as getting stronger. Thanks for the food tips, I think I will avoid the five guys, chips,oreo, ice cream tip... there is such a thing as food that is simply grease and bad for you.. (ps take the burger war to another thread pls ) No thanks. Besides I can outgrill those boys lol.
I like the beans idea too. I will switch some things around and post in a month on this to see hom I am progressing.
The point is this, you said you are struggling even getting in 2000 calories. The only solution therefore is higher calorie denser foods. If you try and bulk with high fibre foods your stomach will blow up like a balloon and you will feel extremely uncomfortable.
You can keep your saturated fats within healthy guidelines, but there's plenty of other high calorie food that will be perfect for a bulk.
Don't get caught up in the so called clean eating for bulking. The true definition of clean bulk is keeping your calories tightly controlled to 3500 extra a week, or 500 per day. Max muscle gains with the expected but minimum fat gain.
Also, after lifting, you need fast carbs to transport the amino acids into the cells. Think bagels, cream cheese, fish, mmmmmm.0 -
Now youre talking my language springfield. Cheese I can eat all day. I suppose I can also start doubling up the powders in my muscle milk. Ive made some adjustments over the past few days and my excercise routine at least is spot on so will see how this works. Had to remind myself not to hit that panic button seeing my weight go up especially the first few days on creatine. Thanks for the tips guys.0
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Muscle Milk is an excellent product ... at making you poor. Just get some whey protein, mix it with real milk, add in ice, a banana and some peanut butter, and you have a 500 calorie shake.0
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Now youre talking my language springfield. Cheese I can eat all day. I suppose I can also start doubling up the powders in my muscle milk. Ive made some adjustments over the past few days and my excercise routine at least is spot on so will see how this works. Had to remind myself not to hit that panic button seeing my weight go up especially the first few days on creatine. Thanks for the tips guys.
So you can eat cheese all day but don't like the idea of greasy yummy fast food? Cheese is high in sat fat. I was thinking more like avocados, high fat fish, nuts, but I also think it's ok to go over the guidelines reasonably with the sat fats.
The powder isn't going to be higher fat, just higher in protein.
The 'weight gain' from the creatine is water weight. You need CALORIES!0 -
Goodness, I felt like 2200 hundred calories was a glass of milk..I'm up to 3400 calories..That shyt is crazy...and none of it is fastfood or fried..and then I wake up in the morning ready to eat a door or a dresser. haha Good luck. 0
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like a load of people have said your not eating ebough for 'gains'. i would eat around 3000 calories and see what your like there but also ensure you eat 2 grams of protein for every pound of body weight. thats what i do in the winter and seems to work but im no pro im just passing on tips that work for me. i would be concentrating on 5 sets 8-12 reps for at least 5 different excercises for that single muscle group.0
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OK, I had back surgery in the past so am careful with how I lift so I started working with a trainer over the past year. I have gotten great results (down from 27% bfi to 9%) and have loss 30 lbs of fat...ick. Here is my issue. I am 5'8 138 lbs and am a lean build and always have been as Ive been a runner most of my life. My trainer keeps my carbs at no more than 150 per day and is shoveling protein down me and I struggle to get in 2000 calories as thats just a lot for me. What I need help with is building muscle mass. I am getting stronger and can outlift guys with arms twice my size but my arms dont seem to be really gaining mass. Ive cut back on my workout as I was overtraining and working out 3 days a week now. Abs on all 3 days and rotate those 3 days between legs/thighs, back/chest, bis/tris. I have moved from 5 sets of 5 and progressed to dropsets a month ago. Id appreciate any suggestions on helping out or changes I need to make. P.S. the weights are at a level that going higher won't work and lighter is too light.
Wanna see something amazing happen???
Do about 3 days of carbs at 350 gr / day.
Minimal to low fat
And protein at say 225 gr / day.
You will fill out....
Do a couple nights of pancakes and syrup.
But you need a calorie surplus to put on mass number 1.
And you also need more carbs, carbs help with muscle growth.0 -
Also, after lifting, you need fast carbs to transport the amino acids into the cells. Think bagels, cream cheese, fish, mmmmmm.
gummie bears.
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Also, after lifting, you need fast carbs to transport the amino acids into the cells. Think bagels, cream cheese, fish, mmmmmm.
gummie bears.
Cute! I've got this picture in my head now of gummy bears running through your veins with packages of amino acids.0 -
Also, after lifting, you need fast carbs to transport the amino acids into the cells. Think bagels, cream cheese, fish, mmmmmm.
gummie bears.
Cute! I've got this picture in my head now of gummy bears running through your veins with packages of amino acids.
Dropping them off at little stops along the way.....
Singing and holding hands....
It's like my own personal rainbow colored delivery system....and their quick too
Yeah, Think that every time too. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
2000 calories is too low. If you're 5'8" and 138 lbs and moderately active (3-5hrs of moderate exercise per week) then just using a basic calorie calculator shows that you need at least 2400 calories a day just to maintain your weight. Maybe you're not training that much per week, but even only 1-3 hrs of light exercise you'd need 2100 calories to maintain your weight. You need to eat over that amount to gain any muscle.
I would try to eat 2400-2600 calories per day and get in 1g/1lb of LBM in protein and see how it goes over a week or two. I think ideally you want to be gaining about 0.5 lb per week to slowly bulk. Adding muscle naturally takes time, gaining much faster than 0.5 lb or 1 lb per week is just going to result in additional fat gains, unless you have awesome genes and you're taking steroids.
Here's a calorie calculator to help you out, it's where I got the figures from above. It may not be 100% accurate, but it'll give you a good idea of where to start and then you can adjust from there. But no calorie surplus means no added muscle mass. You'll just get some strength gains from your nerve fibers adapting and finding more efficient ways to lift the weight.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/0 -
If you eat more, you will lift more. Trust the advice you're getting in here.
^^^^This 100%0 -
What does your Postworkout Nutrition look like?
How is your sleep?
How is your weight training intensity?
2000 calories is too low for you. I would nix running and look into steady state cardio to get your heart rate in the fat burning zone. Maybe for 15 min post weight training workouts to lean you out. Or a stand alone 30 minute cardio session 5 days a week. You really need to get your diet right to put on the mass.
I eat 6 times a day every three hours and workout 5 days a week on a clean bulk diet. I do eat when I am not hungry...I have too...to gain mass. I also do five 35 min cardio sessions. Body Builders do not starve fat off...they burn it off with cardio.0
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