Back to School: Dress Code
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I agree. That's almost identical to the dress code we had in my high school in the 90's and according to friends with kids in the same school now, little has changed. It doesn't seem to pose huge issues...and I know they don't even really care if a girl's top is low cut as long as there isn't actual bra showing.
My school didn't have any dress codes until the "Co-ed Naked" shirts became a trend. lol
There was something else, I think, that was trendy and full of sexual innuendo that they banned but I can't remember it anymore. So, pretty much you could wear anything that wasn't hinting at sex. And probably alcohol.0 -
My daughter's high school put it in pictures, Not sure what that says about education levels in general, but they seem to be fairly common sense. And I live in Florida.
http://www.marion.k12.fl.us/schools/nmh/Dress code sample photos 2013-14.jpg
My daughter is in college now, she says half the kids show up in pajama pants and hoodies, with sheet marks on their faces.0 -
My daughter's high school put it in pictures, Not sure what that says about education levels in general, but they seem to be fairly common sense. And I live in Florida.
http://www.marion.k12.fl.us/schools/nmh/Dress code sample photos 2013-14.jpg
I think that seems totally reasonable. Although it does kind of make me laugh about the bare midriff rule because in my high school the cheerleading squad and dance team both had a couple inches of bare midriff (and usually visible navel depending on their body types) in their UNIFORMS and wore them to school all day on game days!! haha0 -
I agree there should be dress codes at all schools but that said there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same.0
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I agree there should be dress codes at all schools but that said there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same.
I doubt that will ever happen but I can't say I think it's a bad idea...sounds kind of good actually. Of course there could still be so many parochial and private schools setting their own rules.
I am sure there are places in the USA where it gets really hot and schools are still not air conditioned, so kids truly do NEED to wear shorts and super light t-shirts to school. But for the most part, modern schools are climate controlled so I don't really see the need for specific warm weather clothing. I live in a place with 4 seasons and the beginning and end of the school year here, it can be sweltering and over 100 degrees. But it's all air conditioned anyway (wasn't 20 years ago, but it is now).
I also think most modern day uniforms aren't so terrible...the Catholic schools in my area, the students wear navy polo shirts and khaki pants. It's not like they have to wear suits and plaid kiltie skirts with tucked in ironed blouses...0 -
"there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same"...sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet I guess0
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...You spent 20 minutes over NOT choosing a simple t-shirt? :huh: I think you are overcomplicating things. When is doubt, stick with what you know will be ok, stop trying to push the envelope. Keep the sheer tanks for her to wear after school and on weekends.
Ok, so she chooses an outfit that complies with the dress code 100% but for some reason a teacher decides it's inappropriate. As the OP stated, it's the schools discretion to say whether or not they feel something is inappropriate making the entire a situation a no win one.
I personally think that kids should have to wear uniforms. Any Caribbean island you go to all the schools have uniforms and they're color-coded to what grade they are in. I think it's a great idea to be honest.0 -
My daughter wasn't even allowed to wear any type of tank top. They said the shoulders could be a distraction to the other students :noway: :grumble:
Not to mention the restriction on leggings, shorts and "too tight" jeans. But oddly enough, no restrictions for the boys other than no tank tops.
While I understand a need for dress codes these days, I think some districts are taking it way too far. I understand your frustration and I don't think you're crazy.
I'm more of an elbow guy, but most of my friends prefer shoulders.0 -
School dress codes have gotten RIDICULOUS! For our children, the schools around here don't have working AC at all(Minnesota) and when it get's hot and humid in the schools, it's basically unbearable, and students aren't allowed to wear shorts/skirts unless they are BEYOND the finger tips...........well for my children, that is basically capri or longer length! and they still overheat in that! the HS is telling girls they can no longer wear leggings because it "distracts the boys" too much. and i believe they already had rules about spaghetti straps when i was in high school over 10 years ago. Some of the "rules" are so stupid! I know once my husband came back to the school after he graduated to see me 1 day, and a teacher actually GRABBED the hat off his head and told him "you know the rules - no hats in school" - the principal thankfully walked by at the same time and yelled at the teacher to leave him alone "HE GRADUATED LAST YEAR, LEAVE HIM ALONE!" - Just the teachers getting all power greedy, and love being able to rub dress code rules in others faces.......you can't win!
And OP - I agree that if they have to MOVE the sweater to see the straps - that is plain ole STUPID! it's covered, leave it be!0 -
"there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same"...sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet I guess
guess not. I don't know why that is such a horrible idea?0 -
Yes, let's have the Washington bureaucrats dictate what kids all across the country are allowed to wear to school."there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same"...sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet I guess
guess not. I don't know why that is such a horrible idea?
And whether you live in Juneau or Miami, it WILL BE THE SAME.0 -
"there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same"...sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet I guess
guess not. I don't know why that is such a horrible idea?
People have written a lot of books....1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm...0 -
I am pro uniform...1.) it doesn't allow the kids to segregate themselves by economic affluence... 2. ) the kid knows what they are going to be wearing everyday.0
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"there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same"...sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet I guess
guess not. I don't know why that is such a horrible idea?
People have written a lot of books....1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm...
yeah, totally the same! You got me!!0 -
"there should be one national standard for the outfits so that no matter where you go in the US the outfits are exactly the same"...sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet I guess
guess not. I don't know why that is such a horrible idea?
People have written a lot of books....1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm...
Actually I changed my mind. This is a great idea! Just imagine the political campaigns..."I promise to change all of the school uniforms from black to plaid! And Friday will be Hawaiian Shirt day!!!"0 -
My boys' school has a "voluntary uniform" policy (which is sort of silly, because if it is only voluntary, it will never be "uniform"). The suggested attire consists of a polo-type shirt in one of four colors, and black or khaki shorts/pants/skirt. The students can also wear "school spirit" tees that the PTO sells. My boys comply with the uniform about 50% of the time, and on other days (usually when they have PE) they wear what they like (usually Under Armour or Nike sport gear).
The district's dress code is similar to what others have posted...
Personal attire may be in the style of the day, but clothing that is immodest, revealing, or distracting in character is unacceptable. Clothing, piercings and accessories shall not be worn if they display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages, sexually suggestive phrases, advertisements, phrases or symbols of alcohol, tobacco or drugs or create a safety issue within the learning environment.
In accordance with statutory requirements, and as more particularly specified in the standards for boys and girls below, students are prohibited from wearing clothing that exposes underwear or that exposes body parts in an indecent or vulgar manner.
Head coverings, including but not limited to, caps, hats, bandannas, hair curlers and/or sunglasses, shall not be worn on campus unless required by a physician or authorized by school administration.
Students must wear shoes that are safe and appropriate for the learning environment. Middle school and elementary school students must wear shoes that have a back or strap on the heel. High school students may wear backless shoes; however, bedroom slippers and footwear commonly considered as beachwear is prohibited. (For example, beach sandals, or other such beach shoes, will not be allowed in school).
Hair shall be clean and well combed or brushed. Extreme hairstyles will not be acceptable.
Skirts, dresses, shorts, baggies, culottes, no shorter than four inches (4") above the top of the knee, are acceptable. Skirts shorter than four inches (4”) above the top of the knee worn with leggings or tights are not acceptable.
Gang graffiti will not be drawn or worn on backpacks, notebooks, folders, papers, clothing or any other object or on the body of any student or person on school property.
I do think it is easier for boys to comply with dress codes, as they tend to wear oversized tee shirts and knee-length shorts anyway. But if you look in the shops that cater to teenaged girls (shops like Hollister, or Aeropostale for example) you'll be hard pressed to find anything that complies with the rules. Most shorts have inseams under 3 inches, and most tops are a combination of sleeveless and sheer.
Of course most of my shorts are higher than 4" above my knees (even with my stubby legs)...but I look terrible in Bermudas, and would have hated them as part of a uniform.0 -
There was a girl at a local high school that recently got sent home because of the color of her hair... They said it was "distracting" to other students and faculty. Here's where I have an issue with that... Her hair wasn't even something bright or neon colored. It was a darker/richer shade of natural red.0
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I completely agree that dress codes have started to get out of hand.
However, I have to disagree that it is hard to find clothes that will pass a dress code. My daughter is 13, and we get almost all of her clothes at Kohl's, and they all fit the dress code. Yes, at first glance the juniors dept. is full of definite "no way" styles, but there are plenty of in style, dress code appropriate options. We even get some of her things from the women's workwear/casualwear sections (these areas of the store tend to have less "hoochie style" clothes as my daughter puts it, longer shorts/skirts, wider tank top straps etc) What we don't get at Kohl's we will usually go to a resale shop like Plato's Closet or Clothes Mentor. Again, plenty of appropriate options to choose from.0 -
My 13 year old sister's school banned skinny jeans this year and she refuses to wear any other style of pants. In some ways, I understand why, but really... she's a 13 year old kid who is having a hard enough time defining who she is without "the system" telling her she is most certainly going to end up a sex object for some horny boy because she is conforming to current style. I think some places are a bit overzealous.:ohwell:0
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Unfortunately, there is a need for a Dress Code. There is always someone who wants to push it to the limit. It's too bad that the enforcement is so subjective.
I know everyone is screaming about their personal rights, etc., but school is a place to learn. If you really feel so put upon, pull your kid out of school and home school them.
Personally, I don't see a problem with some guidelines for children.0 -
I teach in a school in the uk
We were trousers/skirts and shirts ties and v neck jumper is does make the kids look much smarter i make my form stand in alphabetical order every morning to check thier uniform down to extra earings and nail varnish if its not right they get a phone call home explaining the problem0 -
There was a girl at a local high school that recently got sent home because of the color of her hair... They said it was "distracting" to other students and faculty. Here's where I have an issue with that... Her hair wasn't even something bright or neon colored. It was a darker/richer shade of natural red.
My son is 14. About to go into High School. He also wonders how hair is distracting.
That said, here where we are near Houston his dress code was:
K-5 - Free Dress (within reason)
6-8 - Standard Dress (the casual uniform idea)
9-12 - Free Dress (within reason)
Standard dress still had a list of rules that changed slightly when he got to 6th grade:
Polo shirts only any color - at first it was NO LOGO/EMBLEMS. When he got to 6th they changed it to NO LOGO BIGGER THAN A QUARTER.
Also able to wear spirit shirts.
Khaki style pants any color (no camo), no large pockets. By the time he was in 8th grade the boys were rocking cargos in appropriate colors.
No Headwear
For girls though, there was a conversation about not being allowed to purposely show a cami/tank under the shirt.
No skinny pants
Appropriate length shorts and skirts
No heels (I think this is probably more of a safety issue really).
Now they do have to specify -
No pants worn on hips or below (or whatever phrasing equates to "no sagging! pull up your dang pants!")
I believe a spaghetti strap tank without a cover is inappropriate school wear. A regular tank maybe not.
Midriff shirt? Yep, inappropriate.
Those tiny shorts that aren't any bigger than the pocket on the back? Inappropriate. Skirt of same length is the same.
I work with a lady and she was wearing a sheer top with a tank top underneath it. She looked like she was going out for date night. When I said "wow that's super sexy for work!" she seemed really surprised. So use your discretion with that. If you can SEE the tank underneath it without being in a "certain light" I'd go for no. But I have one of that material that is not really see thru and can wear it to work without a tank underneath.
Please remember teen boys = horn dogs.0 -
It's the same here In Washington and where some of them I agree with (I don't want to see butt cheeks or belly buttons), some of these are ridiculous!0
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Our middle school dress code is very strict....however, I would drop by daughter off in the morning and the women teachers would have on skirts/dresses so short they couldn't bend over and tops with their boobs falling out. The kids aren't the problem. My daughter is in high school now and goes directly from PE to cross country practice. Yesterday she wore a tank top running shirt, crew neck no sleeve no razor back or anything like that. The PE teacher called her on it not being in dress code, but the girls can were freaking booty shorts in PE and nothing is said. I told her don't worry about it and carry on, btw it was 100 here yesterday.
I also don't get the whole hair color big deal. Red, blue, pink, purple after the first day of seeing it, the kids don't care and certainly are not distracted by it.
We do our best to abide by the code, but my daughter is 4'10" and 80 lbs, she wears a size 7/8 kids short, hello of course they will be short on her they are made for a 7 years olds wait and length. I try my best to buy her longer bermuda shorts for school so they are thigh lenght but there is only so much you can do.
Such a waste of things to worry about.0 -
My daughter got a free hoodie one day.
Never happen in our middle school, they can't wear them LOL unless they don't have pockets. The soccer team can wear their uniforms on game day but not the track or volleyball teams because the shorts are too short...seriously LOL So glad she is in HS now.0 -
To me, that's a reasonable dress code. Some schools are not so reasonable.Here's my daughter's High School Dress Code - below.
Sounds similar to yours:
No head gear (hats, caps, earphones, etc)
No bare midriffs
No low-cut shirts (at neckline or under arms)
No pants worn below hips, exposing underwear or skin
No short shorts or mini skirts
No skimpy-strapped tank tops or tube tops
No muscle shirts
No offensive or obscene language on clothing, pictures or words depicting sex
drugs alcohol or weapons
No studded jewelry
NO EXCEPTIONS
This one IS good!0 -
...I do not have children. I recall in elementary school being harassed by teachers constantly. I developed fairly early, and when I was in 8th grade, I typically dressed like an adult female. I recall wearing black pants, a black tank top, with a white button up over the tank top (done up with the first 2 buttons undone...the 3rd button was "pulling" as many bigger chested females can experience). I ended up getting harassed for a week straight after wearing that by teachers. One point, 2 teachers were getting upset with me in the hallway in front of other kids. I finally told the teachers to "---- off".
There began my days of rebellious behaviour. I never thought of what I wore as being "sexy". I was also fairly large, and already got picked on by other kids...and to get it from the teachers just made my days harder. I basically went to school fearing I would be judged and criticized over my clothing every day.
I value freedom of speech, and the opportunity to express ones self, even if it might piss off others so of course, I highly disagree with uniforms so parents dont have to "put up" with dress code. If I do have a daughter, and she wants to dress for controversy, I would be fine pulling her out of school to home-school if the rules and guidelines for dress is as intense as it is now. Females will never win.
These days, I think home-schooling is the way to go if you want a decent education anyway. We have already discussed how common sense is not so common in this thread.0 -
Please remember teen boys = horn dogs.
Yes, for some boys that's true. But why are the girls then responsible for how they dress because of that?0 -
Please remember teen boys = horn dogs.
Yes, for some boys that's true. But why are the girls then responsible for how they dress because of that?
Please remember adult males can be/ = still are horn dogs.0 -
My daughter's high school put it in pictures, Not sure what that says about education levels in general, but they seem to be fairly common sense. And I live in Florida.
http://www.marion.k12.fl.us/schools/nmh/Dress code sample photos 2013-14.jpg
My daughter is in college now, she says half the kids show up in pajama pants and hoodies, with sheet marks on their faces.
This dress code seems pretty reasonable to me.
The shorts in the "Acceptable" column in this image are not acceptable in our schools. LOL0
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