Prediabetic - My second day Low sugar, Low Carb. Help?

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  • AshleyCraig54
    AshleyCraig54 Posts: 16 Member
    Oh yeah, and I have an appointment on Tuesday with my general practitioner, after the terrible taco bell fail, we felt I should not wait until November to follow up. My husband said if I can get to 249, it's worse than my AC1 A1C? let on. Hopefully I will get a script for a test kit so I can keep level!

    249 is high and definitely outside the target range, but I wouldn't be rushing to the hospital for that. You are still producing insulin and so that number would come down. I would highly advise AGAINST taking your husband's insulin for that reason. You are VERY lucky you didn't have a hypo. If you are in that range again, I would suggest going for a brisk walk. It WILL help. The problem with taking your husband's insulin is that you don't know your insulin sensitivity rate, or your I:C ratio or your correction factor or any of these things. Going very low is MUCH MORE DANGEROUS than going slightly high. I've had some pretty scary lows. Probably your husband has too.

    When I was diagnosed Type 1 I was running in the high 400s and felt like absolute crap.

    An A1C does only give a general "average" picture of your blood sugar, but unless you have having many lows - which I doubt - I would say 6.1 is a pretty decent number!! It's well within the medical "accepted" non-diabetic range.

    However, spiking to 249 after eating does indicate there is definitely insulin resistance happening in your body.

    What you need to do is get your own test meter and use it.

    I know it's frightening and scary and confusing, but it can be managed. Don't put yourself in more danger!
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    To be fair, if she had gone to the hospital with those numbers, they would have shot her up. In their minds it's heart attack/stroke territory. I know, cause that's what they did for me.

    I've dropped out of diabetic range with no testing, just diet/exercise. Canada has funny rules for what bits of diabetes management is covered. Not complaining, just the way it is.

    When you go to the doctor, ask him to get you into a diabetes management program. (If you have them? I assume you do.) It helped me a lot, they'll teach you what to eat, what your ratios should be, how to monitor your feet and eyes etc.

    The blurry vision and headaches at the base of the neck were my warning signs as well.


    Your leaving out context here though, first you really need to know where her blood sugars were at before she ate that meal or any meal for that matter... Had her numbers been above normal before she ate and then was still high then that would lean towards less to do with her food and would be an indicator that there is another issue. If her numbers were normal before and had she waited the suggested 2 hours post meal instead of 1 and tested and it was still high then it comes down to the food choices she made and I would definitely be keeping an eye on it over the next hour or so before I decided to go to the ER... But self medicating with someone else medicine in any country is just wrong period.... She had blood work done and A1c indicated values of 6.1 which means her averages was 140...... So call me crazy but I just think I would leave it in the hands of professionals which already instructed her to eat better and exercise and come back in after a few months to see where her levels are at then before taking any drastic measures,if she is altering those number by injecting insulin that isn't being prescribed to her. then those numbers will be flawed when she gets her next A1c blood work drawn..... but again this is just my opinion........ Best of Luck OP.....
  • SeptemberLondon
    SeptemberLondon Posts: 151 Member
    Berries are the best possible lower carb fruits. Low glycemic index also.
  • elizabethmerchant16
    elizabethmerchant16 Posts: 11 Member
    I know that was a ridiculous move re: the insulin, i would never take anyone elses prescription pills, so that was the same thing. Hubby was just worried, but you guys are right.
    His sugar has dropped to ridiculous lows, 40s and sometimes even thirties. Before he met me he ate whatever he wanted and just dosed himself with insulin accordingly. Totally irresponsible. When he's low I can tell right away because he acts drunk, and he doesnt drink! I cook for him now, and i KNOW my recent diagnosis is going to help us both immensely. He claims he just never learned to eat correctly, plus he can't cook.
    I am a professional cook, so that's why I'm researching everything so we don't follow any of our bad habits again!
  • dorisopen9
    dorisopen9 Posts: 94 Member
    Another approach to reduce insulin resistance, the cause of type II diabetes, is intermittent fasting. It is not yet in the treatment guidelines but dietitians and clinicians are becoming aware of its merits.
    Diabetes UK and the American Diabetes Association still recommend a low fat, high carb approach but like others here already pointed out us type II diabetics cannot process the carbs in a normal way and should reduce them. Btw. low GI foods do not work well either because we lack the second phase insulin release, our response to carbs is totally screwed.

    A lot of information about obesity, diabetes, nutrition and also fasting can be found here: http://intensivedietarymanagement.com/
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    An A1C does only give a general "average" picture of your blood sugar, but unless you have having many lows - which I doubt - I would say 6.1 is a pretty decent number!! It's well within the medical "accepted" non-diabetic range.

    Umm...only if by "non-diabetic," you mean "pre-diabetic on the verge of Diabetes."

    The cutoff for "normal" non-diabetic 5.6. The cutoff between pre-diabetic and Diabetic is 6.4. While 6.1 is "good" for someone just learning to control their Diabetes, it's far from being "non-diabetic," or "decent" by non-diabetic standards.
  • CathReese33
    CathReese33 Posts: 112 Member
    I either have a couple of scrambled eggs or some bio yogurt and a small handful of raspberries for breakfast. The only fruit I will have is berries. I have cut out all processed foods and my carbs are primarily coming from veggies, lots of broccoli, kale and spinach.
    I am not particularly tolerant to red peppers and tomatoes. I am lactose intolerant and also cannot eat wheat - IBS, so afar cutting out everything I am feeling amazing. Hopefully reducing my risk of diabetes too :-)
  • AshleyCraig54
    AshleyCraig54 Posts: 16 Member
    An A1C does only give a general "average" picture of your blood sugar, but unless you have having many lows - which I doubt - I would say 6.1 is a pretty decent number!! It's well within the medical "accepted" non-diabetic range.

    Umm...only if by "non-diabetic," you mean "pre-diabetic on the verge of Diabetes."

    The cutoff for "normal" non-diabetic 5.6. The cutoff between pre-diabetic and Diabetic is 6.4. While 6.1 is "good" for someone just learning to control their Diabetes, it's far from being "non-diabetic," or "decent" by non-diabetic standards.

    That's why I said by "medical accepted" non-diabetic range and also "decent". When you HAVE diabetes, this is what the medically-accepted range is. They tell you anything up to and A1C of 7 is acceptable. I don't make these guidelines, just sharing by my own experience ;-)

    Ask any endocrinologist or diabetes practitioner (in Ontario, at least) and this is what they will tout.

    They also offer a lot of garbage "nutritional" counselling that basically comes from a script. I argue with my dietician every 3 months when she tells me I need to be eating MORE carbs. I'm not a low-carber either. Grrrrr.

    But my point was an A1C of 6.1 is not worth panicking over - yet. Does she need to do some work to lower it? Yes. Does she need immediate medical attention at an emergency room? No. :)

    EDITED: However, it is entirely possible that the medically-accepted range is different for Type 1 management, and so if that's the case I'm not sure about what a diabetes practitioner would consider as "acceptable". Just thought I'd throw that out there...
  • jlp19771
    jlp19771 Posts: 33 Member
    I started low carb about a month ago due to high triglycerides and high fasting blood glucose. My doctor's group also includes a nutritionist. I have talked with the nutritionist and she recommended Yoplait Greek or Greek Light if I wanted yogurt. Hope this helps and good luck to you!
  • amberj32
    amberj32 Posts: 663 Member
    To be fair, if she had gone to the hospital with those numbers, they would have shot her up. In their minds it's heart attack/stroke territory. I know, cause that's what they did for me.

    I've dropped out of diabetic range with no testing, just diet/exercise. Canada has funny rules for what bits of diabetes management is covered. Not complaining, just the way it is.

    When you go to the doctor, ask him to get you into a diabetes management program. (If you have them? I assume you do.) It helped me a lot, they'll teach you what to eat, what your ratios should be, how to monitor your feet and eyes etc.

    The blurry vision and headaches at the base of the neck were my warning signs as well.


    Your leaving out context here though, first you really need to know where her blood sugars were at before she ate that meal or any meal for that matter... Had her numbers been above normal before she ate and then was still high then that would lean towards less to do with her food and would be an indicator that there is another issue. If her numbers were normal before and had she waited the suggested 2 hours post meal instead of 1 and tested and it was still high then it comes down to the food choices she made and I would definitely be keeping an eye on it over the next hour or so before I decided to go to the ER... But self medicating with someone else medicine in any country is just wrong period.... She had blood work done and A1c indicated values of 6.1 which means her averages was 140...... So call me crazy but I just think I would leave it in the hands of professionals which already instructed her to eat better and exercise and come back in after a few months to see where her levels are at then before taking any drastic measures,if she is altering those number by injecting insulin that isn't being prescribed to her. then those numbers will be flawed when she gets her next A1c blood work drawn..... but again this is just my opinion........ Best of Luck OP.....

    When I looked online an average of 6.1 by some charts is 140 and others 128. Not sure which one is correct.

    With her number at only 249, it doesn't seem like they would shoot her up with a bunch of insulin but maybe to be on the safe side. I know you said they did with you. I was 410 when I was diagnosed. I was at the Urgent Care for another non-related issue. They did give me one low dose shot of insulin and I went back down to normal.

    I started lower carb after being diagnosed but I've brought back carbs in my diet and I'm going good. My A1c from April was 11.4 and then in July it had gone down to 6.0.

    She should NOT be injecting her husbands insulin no matter what the case. Let the doctor decide that.
  • kikityme
    kikityme Posts: 472 Member

    She should NOT be injecting her husbands insulin no matter what the case. Let the doctor decide that.

    I agree, but there's no point in dwelling over spilled milk. That's all. When the hospital gave me a shot I was at 220.
  • After a quick skim one thing i dont think has been mentioned, is to not just pay attention to how each food effects you (to start with test before, and 2 hours after EVERY meal to work out what your body can and cant handle), but also pay attention to how combinations of food effect you. For me, type 2 diabetic for nearly a year now, if i have 50g of a carbs (sugar or not dosnt matter) my blood sugar will go through the roof, but if i have that SAME 50g of with 20-30g of protein, while it will still go up, nowhere near what i would without the protein. A good example, 1 cup "normal" yougurt will spike my bloodsugar 80-90 points 2 hours after, greek yougurt with the SAME sugar and carbs, will only be 10-20. Greek yougurt is a LOT higher in protein.

    You have to see what works for you, nobody is the same, nobody is effected the same by the same things, you have to work out what your body does and does not like, its hard, but worth it! my A1C was 11 a year ago, its 5.8 now, i still eat desert, potatoes, rice ect, just know how much of what i can have a meal. Small changes can give big results, when you know what changes your body needs!
  • elizabethmerchant16
    elizabethmerchant16 Posts: 11 Member
    I ate more food and felt better. This is a great way to eat. Now if only I didn't dread exercise so much! I really have let myself go, obviously. My husband, son and I walked an hour in the humid heat and I thought I was going to die. I'm sure it will get easier! ;)
  • Catter_05
    Catter_05 Posts: 155 Member
    Hi all. I'm new to MFP, and how awesome and user friendly it is! Not to mention all the support and tools.

    So, down to business.

    I was diagnosed as being pre-diabetic by my family doctor 2 days ago, who suggested eating low-carb, low-sugar, and not overboard on the fats. The first goal of mine is to lose 10% of my body weight (18 lbs,) which she said could possibly reverse it! I am aware that I will always need to eat this way, which makes more sense than the average American diet to me anyway.
    I am having a hard time figuring out the role of natural sugars (like fruit) in this. My goal is to keep under 50 carbs daily, just until I lose the 10%, then maybe I'll add some more occasionally. Should I just stay away from fruit for now?
    And also, a 100 calorie Greek yogurt has 12 gr of carbs, I always eat one in the morning with my pills, but is it still a good choice or not so much?
    And also, Here is a rundown of my totals from yesterday. Am I eating too much?
    Sorry for all the questions, thanks for any feedback!

    Totals 1,475 70 98 101 3,192 26
    Your Daily Goal 1,200 45 40 165 2,300 45
    Remaining -275 -25 -58 64 -892 19
    Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Sugar

    I was told to stay under 7 sugars at a time and wait at least 2 hours before more sugar. It's hard. There are a lot of Greek yogurts that are under this sugar limit that don't have artificial sweeteners (I know that is a concern for many.). Chobani simply 100 has several different flavor switch less than that. Feel free to friend me :).