Wine?

nvpixie

I have wine near nightly, and I buy the little cans of it - portion control, right there. If I have a bottle, I'll tend to drink the whole thing too. It's not even because it's alcohol, I just like the taste.

There are CANS of wine?! I never knew.

I have a bottle of Merlot for tonight.

Over the past several weeks, I've cut down on wine and beer to only the weekends or other nights where I don't have to get up and going early the next day. It works for me and hasn't affected my weight loss/maintenance.

MiloBloom83

Wine in cans? Sounds a bit American/Australian to me;)

I think though - portion control really is the issue. You'd think at 45 I'd be able to manage it by now wouldn't you:)

Sorry, but the official serving size of wine is "one bottle".

SunofaBeach14

I know it's crazy but perhaps drink less than a whole bottle?

ExRelaySprinter

I don't drink Alcohol now unless i'm going out to dinner or if friends/family come round for dinner.
And even then, i drink about 1/2 the amount of what i used to.
I'd rather eat more food, instead of using those cals on drink to be honest.

killervogel5

Wine in cans? Sounds a bit American/Australian to me;)

I think though - portion control really is the issue. You'd think at 45 I'd be able to manage it by now wouldn't you:)

Never seen American wine in a can... never seen wine in a can, period, anywhere in the US.

annie7hudds

I love wine. Red, white, cava, champagne. Yum.

It is scary how many calories are in a glass when I come to filling in my food diary. : :drinker:

Just heading off out to the pub now - but I bet I can't stick to just the one.. :blushing:

No run plannned for tomorrow. It does affect my running for sure- not fair !!

Sabine_Stroehm

So glad the DW and I don't like wine. And I live in a wine making city!!! I have wine stored for guests, but last time I drank some was a sip for a toast at a reception.

Just for info: alcohol inhibits fat burning. So if a lot of one's calories is committed to alcohol, it may impede how weight loss from fat is going.

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I've read this before, yes. What I understand is the body it burns it first, and won't burn other "things" til it's gone. Is that the story?

Correct. Unlike other macros (though alcohol really doesn't fit into a true "carb" category) it can't be stored so it's metabolized until it's out of the body. So one of the worst times one could drink it is before going to bed because body fat is the main energy source used at rest, unless of course you had alcohol in your system.

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stuffinmuffin

If I want a whole bottle of wine then I'll plan it into my week. I'm not a frequent drinker but when I want to enjoy it I'll make room for it. Let's face it, no matter what time you drink it, or what type you're drinking, it's not exactly healthy, but then neither is cake! :drinker: and I make room for that too. (Don't judge me:noway: )

LoneWolfRunner

Well, look from a positive side of things... at least you're lucky that you are not a whiskey lover.

I'm a whiskey lover... can't do the wine thing.... I like it, but too much sugar or something... just give me my whiskey, neat, everyday....

LoneWolfRunner

Yeah. I buy either a half sized bottle of a nice Italian red wine or the small 3 bottle piccolo pack of a yummy sparkling white wine. And I still end up saying innappropriate things in the forums. :blushing:

Lol!!! Yeah... my whiskey doesn't mess with my running, but certainly nails me here... its like unfiltered truth serum...

moijo6

YES STOP COMPLETELY! Now pass it over to me ..carefully not to spill any :devil:

icrushit

Today - whilst no hangover, I just have not much energy.

This tends to be my attitude towards alcohol in general these days, as while not flattened usually the following day, I am more and more unlikely to be willing to sacrifice a portion of the following day due to recovering fully from the alcohol. When I do drink these days, it usually has to be worth it, or else I don't bother or drink relatively little.

Wine I find too insidious too, as there's always that pressure/ temptation to finish the bottle, so even if you only really cared for a glass, if you're drinking with a friend or a partner, it becomes half a bottle by default. As a result I tend to only touch it when its really good, or the occasion warrants it, and find this helps a lot.

Anyways, its all down to us to define our relationship with alcohol, and while I don't drink much these days, or rather very often, I don't intend to eliminate it completely. Instead as I go on, I find I draw more and more qualifications as to my alcohol consumption in terms of how much I drink and how regularly.

Still, nothing like a good beer, good red, or champagne in pretty much any form, I just make sure I'm drinking it by conscious choice instead of out of habit, lol. I hope to bring the same attitude to food when I'm done losing

Sabine_Stroehm

So glad the DW and I don't like wine. And I live in a wine making city!!! I have wine stored for guests, but last time I drank some was a sip for a toast at a reception.

Just for info: alcohol inhibits fat burning. So if a lot of one's calories is committed to alcohol, it may impede how weight loss from fat is going.

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I've read this before, yes. What I understand is the body it burns it first, and won't burn other "things" til it's gone. Is that the story?

Correct. Unlike other macros (though alcohol really doesn't fit into a true "carb" category) it can't be stored so it's metabolized until it's out of the body. So one of the worst times one could drink it is before going to bed because body fat is the main energy source used at rest, unless of course you had alcohol in your system.

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Anyone?

ninerbuff

So glad the DW and I don't like wine. And I live in a wine making city!!! I have wine stored for guests, but last time I drank some was a sip for a toast at a reception.

Just for info: alcohol inhibits fat burning. So if a lot of one's calories is committed to alcohol, it may impede how weight loss from fat is going.

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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

I've read this before, yes. What I understand is the body it burns it first, and won't burn other "things" til it's gone. Is that the story?

Correct. Unlike other macros (though alcohol really doesn't fit into a true "carb" category) it can't be stored so it's metabolized until it's out of the body. So one of the worst times one could drink it is before going to bed because body fat is the main energy source used at rest, unless of course you had alcohol in your system.

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Is there anything else we ingest that can't be stored?

Fiber, vitamin C. I don't have a list in front of me, but I'm sure there is lots more which is why there are essentials we eat daily.

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missiontofitness

So glad the DW and I don't like wine. And I live in a wine making city!!! I have wine stored for guests, but last time I drank some was a sip for a toast at a reception.

Just for info: alcohol inhibits fat burning. So if a lot of one's calories is committed to alcohol, it may impede how weight loss from fat is going.

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I've read this before, yes. What I understand is the body it burns it first, and won't burn other "things" til it's gone. Is that the story?

Correct. Unlike other macros (though alcohol really doesn't fit into a true "carb" category) it can't be stored so it's metabolized until it's out of the body. So one of the worst times one could drink it is before going to bed because body fat is the main energy source used at rest, unless of course you had alcohol in your system.

A.C.E. Certified Group Fitness and Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

Is there anything else we ingest that can't be stored?

Fiber, vitamin C. I don't have a list in front of me, but I'm sure there is lots more which is why there are essentials we eat daily.

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Well, I drank before bed.
Looks like I'm going to be a bear tonight and not burn fat while I sleep!

cdoesthehula

I used to own a winemaking shop and have made wine my whole life.

I don't drink that much anymore, but I still make lots of wine. I love picking the fruit and turning it into something that makes my friends happy. Every batch I make is 30 bottles. Almost all of it gets given away.

On the rare occasions when I do want to have a drink, though, we use a carafe. It looks nicer than my reused bottles, and you tend not to get up and refill it. I would empty a bottle if I opened one too.

phumzilesiboza7

Hahaha! the Buzz Killington Award! love it!!! What a buzz kill!

Sabine_Stroehm

So glad the DW and I don't like wine. And I live in a wine making city!!! I have wine stored for guests, but last time I drank some was a sip for a toast at a reception.

Just for info: alcohol inhibits fat burning. So if a lot of one's calories is committed to alcohol, it may impede how weight loss from fat is going.

A.C.E. Certified Group Fitness and Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

I've read this before, yes. What I understand is the body it burns it first, and won't burn other "things" til it's gone. Is that the story?

Correct. Unlike other macros (though alcohol really doesn't fit into a true "carb" category) it can't be stored so it's metabolized until it's out of the body. So one of the worst times one could drink it is before going to bed because body fat is the main energy source used at rest, unless of course you had alcohol in your system.

A.C.E. Certified Group Fitness and Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

Is there anything else we ingest that can't be stored?

Fiber, vitamin C. I don't have a list in front of me, but I'm sure there is lots more which is why there are essentials we eat daily.

A.C.E. Certified Group Fitness and Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

Fiber, hadn't thought about that one.
Thanks.
I suspect in 10 years that list is going to grow... Things that the body deals with like it deals with alcohol.....
Thanks again for the reply.

SunofaBeach14

I think this provides a reasonable overview but it's geared towards lifters. You may want to give it a read.

http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/lifters-guide-to-alcohol

randomtai

Well, I drank before bed.
Looks like I'm going to be a bear tonight and not burn fat while I sleep!

Ditto!! Oh well! :ohwell: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:

Cortelli

I think this provides a reasonable overview but it's geared towards lifters. You may want to give it a read.

http://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/lifters-guide-to-alcohol

Nice link!

I consider social drinking an important part of my happy life. And so I have a pretty intense interest in how that drinking can affect my fitness and body fat goals. In addition to the link SunofaBeach provided above, here are several links I've collected over the past year or so:

Martin Berkhan's (LeanGains) take on it and advice: http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/truth-about-alcohol-fat-loss-and-muscle.html

Meno Henselmann's (Bayesian Bodybuilding) with an informative but sometimes tongue-in-cheek review: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/science-binge-drinking/

Alan Aragon: Interview on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBd4TqcBNgs

Cheers!

pipertargaryen

Sorry to necro this thread, but it seems I've left people in the lurch with my wine-in-cans comment!

The brand is called Billyrock Station, I believe it is Australian. I live in Canada (East Coast), and we get 8oz/250ml cans at the liquor store! I always get the shiraz! And no confusing with a recyclable container, it legitimately is a CAN, like a pop/soda can. Easier to recycle/dispose of than a glass bottle, that's for sure :drinker: