New Diet study on the Today show this morning

Greenbomb

They are saying low carb is more effective for weight loss than low fat. The other take-aways are eggs and "good" oils- olive oil and such are helpful to eat. I guess none of that is huge news, but it made me look at my food over the past few weeks and though I've been pretty good at staying within my calories, I could probably do better by cutting down on the carbs.

lorgrayson

This depresses me. I can't eat low carbs without experiencing hypoglycemia. Anytime I try low carb, I get the shakes and when I check my blood sugar it is at 40 or something like that. Not pretty. I am best with 50% carbs 30% protein and 20% fat, to feel best. This weight is taking forever to leave my body.

Greenbomb

This depresses me. I can't eat low carbs without experiencing hypoglycemia. Anytime I try low carb, I get the shakes and when I check my blood sugar it is at 40 or something like that. Not pretty. I am best with 50% carbs 30% protein and 20% fat, to feel best. This weight is taking forever to leave my body.

They did say you don't have to cut carbs completely, but it helps to eat better carbs...such as whole wheat pasta as opposed to white pasta. Also they said to stay away from processed carbs- I think that means like a "Lean Cuisine" pizza...? Not sure. OK carbs would be potatoes, corn and veggies that have carbs in them.

JoRocka

my ice cream habit deny's me from the low carb life style.

I'm not mad at it.

TheStephil

They said low carb with high protein diets tends to do better than low fat diets.

Duh.

Fat and protein tend to be more filling than carbs so its only natural that people that eat more protein and fat and will experience a higher level of fullness and less likely to binge.

Calories in < Calories out is all that matters for weight loss. The plan to get there is up to the individual.

kgeyser

There's another thread about this going on. A lot of news sites are reporting the results, but there are some problems with the methodology:

https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140902121017-23027997-diet-research-stuck-in-the-stone-age

(hat tip to CallMeCupcakeDammit for the link)

JoyeII

I eat 20% carbs (around 100 per day) and spread them out throughout the day (this is due to my own health issues - I'm pre-diabetic and regulating blood glucose via my diet, and it's working). You don't have to do very low carb to be successful. I also have planned cheat days (yesterday, I had Long John Silver's battered chicken, fries, and a Klondike bar for dessert). But I'm steadily losing because I'm in a calorie deficit every day except my cheat days.

Greenbomb

They said low carb with high protein diets tends to do better than low fat diets.

Duh.

Fat and protein tend to be more filling than carbs so its only natural that people that eat more protein and fat and will experience a higher level of fullness and less likely to binge.

Calories in < Calories out is all that matters for weight loss. The plan to get there is up to the individual.

I'm not a dietician or a scientist, but I interpreted the study as not just about calories in calories out. Meaning, if you have a diet that is 1200 calories and high protein, low carb this is more effective in weight loss than a 1200 calorie diet of high carb, low fat. No?

MelRC117

They said low carb with high protein diets tends to do better than low fat diets.

Duh.

Fat and protein tend to be more filling than carbs so its only natural that people that eat more protein and fat and will experience a higher level of fullness and less likely to binge.

Calories in < Calories out is all that matters for weight loss. The plan to get there is up to the individual.

I'm not a dietician or a scientist, but I interpreted the study as not just about calories in calories out. Meaning, if you have a diet that is 1200 calories and high protein, low carb this is more effective in weight loss than a 1200 calorie diet of high carb, low fat. No?

No, from my understanding of the study there was no limit on overall calories for BOTH groups. That's the point, eating more fat and protein will keep you feeling more full, longer, resulting in a calorie deficit. (I should say some, not all)

kgeyser

They said low carb with high protein diets tends to do better than low fat diets.

Duh.

Fat and protein tend to be more filling than carbs so its only natural that people that eat more protein and fat and will experience a higher level of fullness and less likely to binge.

Calories in < Calories out is all that matters for weight loss. The plan to get there is up to the individual.

I'm not a dietician or a scientist, but I interpreted the study as not just about calories in calories out. Meaning, if you have a diet that is 1200 calories and high protein, low carb this is more effective in weight loss than a 1200 calorie diet of high carb, low fat. No?

No, it isn't. The calorie intakes for the participants in the study were not kept at a constant. Additionally, the baseline reported for carb intake was 240g - the study reduced the low carb group to 40g or less per day - a 75% reduction in carb intake. Meanwhile, the baseline intake for fat was just over 35% for participants - the study reduced the low fat group to less than 30% of their calories, which is around a 5% reduction. One was a drastic dietary change that forced people to entirely change their food choices, while the other was barely a blip.

Additionally, the low carb group had a greater calorie deficit than the low fat group throughout the study by several hundred calories, which also needs to be taken into consideration when interpreting the results.

CallMeCupcakeDammit

There's another thread about this going on. A lot of news sites are reporting the results, but there are some problems with the methodology:

https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140902121017-23027997-diet-research-stuck-in-the-stone-age

(hat tip to CallMeCupcakeDammit for the link)

Thanks! I can't get take the credit, though. Acg actually posted it on his page, I just passed on the information.

silentKayak

In general, I think you should ignore all diet advice on news shows and in magazines. They confuse the issues by trying to make "news" out of stuff we've always known. Even when the science is good, they report it wrong, but mostly they report on junk science.

Veil5577

"They" say a lot of things....

msf74

They said low carb with high protein diets tends to do better than low fat diets.

Duh.

Fat and protein tend to be more filling than carbs so its only natural that people that eat more protein and fat and will experience a higher level of fullness and less likely to binge.

Calories in < Calories out is all that matters for weight loss. The plan to get there is up to the individual.

I'm not a dietician or a scientist, but I interpreted the study as not just about calories in calories out. Meaning, if you have a diet that is 1200 calories and high protein, low carb this is more effective in weight loss than a 1200 calorie diet of high carb, low fat. No?

No, it is not about calories being held constant between the groups and therefore testing the validity of CICO.

Essentially if people are told not to track calories consciously but rather choose between a low carb regime or a low fat regime then the low carb regime generates more favourable results in a "free living" scenario.

This is interesting as, in reality, I doubt the day will come to pass where the majority or overweight people or anywhere near the majority are tracking calories on sites such as MFP. So, when generating public health recommendations easily applicable strategies (such as lowering carbs, particularly in highly refined / processed foods) are bound to be of interest.

Anonycatgirl

There's another thread about this going on. A lot of news sites are reporting the results, but there are some problems with the methodology:

https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140902121017-23027997-diet-research-stuck-in-the-stone-age

(hat tip to CallMeCupcakeDammit for the link)

Thanks for sharing that link. Awesomely well written article by someone who seems to know his stuff, and also has a gift for polite snark.

I'll just keep on eating my mix of all kinds of wholesome foods and less wholesome but tasty treats that helped me lose weight and is so far helping me maintain.

sloth3toes

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

This depresses me. I can't eat low carbs without experiencing hypoglycemia. Anytime I try low carb, I get the shakes and when I check my blood sugar it is at 40 or something like that. Not pretty. I am best with 50% carbs 30% protein and 20% fat, to feel best. This weight is taking forever to leave my body.

You should do what allows you to remain in a deficit while feeling healthy and happy. I've never eaten less than 200 grams of carbs per day and I've done fine. And more importantly than the initial weight loss, I've kept it off for almost 2 years.

jofjltncb6

In...

...for the Today show giving us a magic diet bullet.

BombshellPhoenix

I heard calorie deficit was the new wave success to weight loss. But I'm also insane. I'll keep my carbs AND fats high.


Ya'll laughed at me. Ya'll laughed at me. Well, I'll be over here being crazy. *spoon in mouth, gelato in hand*

CallMeCupcakeDammit

I heard calorie deficit was the new wave success to weight loss. But I'm also insane. I'll keep my carbs AND fats high.


Ya'll laughed at me. Ya'll laughed at me. Well, I'll be over here being crazy. *spoon in mouth, gelato in hand*

*grabs a spoon and sits next to you*