Calories
Mandi98U
Posts: 115 Member
I frequently get a message saying I don't eat enough, but I eat 3 meals a day and a snack. I understand that 830 calories isn't a lot but I'm full. Should I eat more to raise my calorie intake even if I'm not hungry or is 830 calories eaten enough even if I burn 120 calories of that? I really want so opinion and thoughts on this.
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I suppose it is enough if you do not mind losing muscle, losing hair, losing nails, getting progressively weaker, finding your workouts suffering, finding your mood suffering and ending up forever stuck eating lower calories than you did before you started this 'diet' because you mucked up your metabolism. Many of the most successful people here are those who lost the weight eating as much as they could while still losing weight, not least because they had somewhere to go to if they stalled out. Where will you go eating 800 calories now, if you stop losing? It is ridiculously unhealthy and not the way to get a sustainable, lifestyle change where the weight is kept off for the longterm.0
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Eat more. Even if you do not feel like it.0
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Netting approximately 720-830 calories per day is extremely unhealthy. The very fact you are trying to rationalize such behavior is frightening and indicative of issues requiring more help than any message board could ever provide. You're risking damage to your organs on top of the other problems Graelwyn listed.0
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Oh, boy. Get the popcorn. Time for another holy war up in here.
@160wannab: Consult a doctor or licensed nutritionist. Do your own research in the scientific literature. At the very least ask anyone who states an opinion here to back it up by citing scientific studies. If they can't or won't, then you know it's just an opinion. Everyone has one.0 -
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I would suggest speaking to your doctor since they know you and your health better than anyone here does. If you both decide that you should be consuming more calories, consider having a protein shake. You can buy your own protein powder and add it to milk. I do that for breakfast since I never seem to have an appetite that early in the day.0
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Oh, boy. Get the popcorn. Time for another holy war up in here.
@160wannab: Consult a doctor or licensed nutritionist. Do your own research in the scientific literature. At the very least ask anyone who states an opinion here to back it up by citing scientific studies. If they can't or won't, then you know it's just an opinion. Everyone has one.
It isn't hard to find scientific studies showing the risks of VLC diets without medical supervision ... the exact thing her actions qualify as.0 -
I don't know how people who use to eat a overload of calories to get overweight, all of a sudden get full on very little.0
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A female needs a minimum of 1200 and a male needs a minimum of 1500. You need to eat more.0
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Yes eat more, even if you don't feel like it.0
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I've been there with VLCDs time and time again. They're exciting, addicting, powerful, and so, so stupid. Whether male, female, young or old the exact same thing happens each time until you are sucked into a dangerous cycle that leaves you never truly happy. Sure, you may look killer in a month, but what good is that when you feel like death? When you go to a party so obsessed with your weight that you can't have a drink? So miserably stuck in a rut of "I look great but I'm hungry" that you just surrender and eat everything you can with the promise that you'll be better tomorrow - only to sadly restart the cycle heavier than you started. Eat the 1200 calories and thank goodness you've caught it in time to enjoy life.0
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I stay within 800 to 900 daily, my max being 1000. Every single one of my doctors (yes I have many) are well aware of how many calories I am consuming and they are on board).
BMR/TDEE can't read your medical chart like your doctors (who know the truth of your body).
I get picked on for my low calorie intake also...it's easy for people to say "shame on you" to others... knowing absolutely nothing about their reason(s) for a lower caloric intake than what is labeled as "appropriate".
I'd see your doctor and discuss it with him/her...rather than listen to someone on a forum who doesn't know anything about your individually unique body and what you...as that unique individual, require.
If I eat more than 1000 calories per day I gain weight; period. Why? Because I'm sick. Why am I sick? Yes, partly because i am overweight, and partly because of illnesses I was diagnosed with long before I became overweight. This isn't an illness forum therefore I'm not discussing those illnesses...except to say that BMR/TDEE doesn't factor those in!
...see your doctor (my opinion only)0 -
You might be losing weight.. but its muscle not fat.....the body needs energy (FOOD) it you dont feed it.. it will use what ever it can for energy source.. you should have a minimal of 1000K0
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I stay within 800 to 900 daily, my max being 1000. Every single one of my doctors (yes I have many) are well aware of how many calories I am consuming and they are on board).
BMR/TDEE can't read your medical chart like your doctors (who know the truth of your body).
I get picked on for my low calorie intake also...it's easy for people to say "shame on you" to others... knowing absolutely nothing about their reason(s) for a lower caloric intake than what is labeled as "appropriate".
I'd see your doctor and discuss it with him/her...rather than listen to someone on a forum who doesn't know anything about your individually unique body and what you...as that unique individual, require.
If I eat more than 1000 calories per day I gain weight; period. Why? Because I'm sick. Why am I sick? Yes, partly because i am overweight, and partly because of illnesses I was diagnosed with long before I became overweight. This isn't an illness forum therefore I'm not discussing those illnesses...except to say that BMR/TDEE doesn't factor those in!
...see your doctor (my opinion only)
OP is 18 years old, only wants to lose 67 lbs, and hasn't mentioned any medical conditions. It's highly unlikely that she needs to eat so low. I have medical conditions too but I don't apply the advice given to me in that context to everyone else on the forum. If I did I'd be going around telling people that they shouldn't run because it's bad for their joints.0 -
I stay within 800 to 900 daily, my max being 1000. Every single one of my doctors (yes I have many) are well aware of how many calories I am consuming and they are on board).
BMR/TDEE can't read your medical chart like your doctors (who know the truth of your body).
I get picked on for my low calorie intake also...it's easy for people to say "shame on you" to others... knowing absolutely nothing about their reason(s) for a lower caloric intake than what is labeled as "appropriate".
I'd see your doctor and discuss it with him/her...rather than listen to someone on a forum who doesn't know anything about your individually unique body and what you...as that unique individual, require.
If I eat more than 1000 calories per day I gain weight; period. Why? Because I'm sick. Why am I sick? Yes, partly because i am overweight, and partly because of illnesses I was diagnosed with long before I became overweight. This isn't an illness forum therefore I'm not discussing those illnesses...except to say that BMR/TDEE doesn't factor those in!
...see your doctor (my opinion only)
OP is 18 years old, only wants to lose 67 lbs, and hasn't mentioned any medical conditions. It's highly unlikely that she needs to eat so low. I have medical conditions too but I don't apply the advice given to me in that context to everyone else on the forum. If I did I'd be going around telling people that they shouldn't run because it's bad for their joints.
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I stay within 800 to 900 daily, my max being 1000. Every single one of my doctors (yes I have many) are well aware of how many calories I am consuming and they are on board).
BMR/TDEE can't read your medical chart like your doctors (who know the truth of your body).
I get picked on for my low calorie intake also...it's easy for people to say "shame on you" to others... knowing absolutely nothing about their reason(s) for a lower caloric intake than what is labeled as "appropriate".
I'd see your doctor and discuss it with him/her...rather than listen to someone on a forum who doesn't know anything about your individually unique body and what you...as that unique individual, require.
If I eat more than 1000 calories per day I gain weight; period. Why? Because I'm sick. Why am I sick? Yes, partly because i am overweight, and partly because of illnesses I was diagnosed with long before I became overweight. This isn't an illness forum therefore I'm not discussing those illnesses...except to say that BMR/TDEE doesn't factor those in!
...see your doctor (my opinion only)
OP is 18 years old, only wants to lose 67 lbs, and hasn't mentioned any medical conditions. It's highly unlikely that she needs to eat so low. I have medical conditions too but I don't apply the advice given to me in that context to everyone else on the forum. If I did I'd be going around telling people that they shouldn't run because it's bad for their joints.
True, this....and thank you for saying it somewhat respectfully rather than snarkily. Point well taken, and appreciated.
To the OP though....I still think you need to speak with your doctor.0 -
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Eat more for breakfast and lunch try to make each meal 350 cal that should leave enough for a snack0
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I agree with everyone that this intake is way too low because it's very difficult to get enough protein, carbs, fats (macro nutrients) as well as vitamins from food that your body needs on a daily base. I'm not sure what your diet consists of now but I would suggest swapping what you're eating now for foods that are perhaps more calorie dense which at the same time help cover your nutrition. Even something like peanut butter won't fill you up more but will give your body essential fats, protein and energy it needs. Especially post work out when your body needs to repair.0
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It would be interesting to know what medical condition has your TDEE at 1000 where if you eat more than that you gain fat. But alas, you've already told us you're not sharing that.
It isn't my medical conditions that cause me to need to stay at or below 1000 calories, it is the medication I have to take for these medical conditions that cause me to have to stay at that number. Once I've lost more weight..*one* of those scripts I may be able to drop and increase my caloric intake, but the others I will never be able to stop taking. So in a way...it's still my illnesses, because they are the reason for the medication (except the 1 medication I have to take *for now*...due to my lack of self-care, which gave me another diagnosis).
Anyway...this thread isn't about me, it's about the OP...and I appreciate the prior post reminding me of that. Every time I see someone getting picked on for the low amount of calories they're consuming, I go into defense mode (knee-jerk reaction).
It's clear to see the OP's situation is entirely different...I simply just spouted off (my apologies).
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It would be interesting to know what medical condition has your TDEE at 1000 where if you eat more than that you gain fat. But alas, you've already told us you're not sharing that.
It isn't my medical conditions that cause me to need to stay at or below 1000 calories, it is the medication I have to take for these medical conditions that cause me to have to stay at that number. Once I've lost more weight..*one* of those scripts I may be able to drop and increase my caloric intake, but the others I will never be able to stop taking. So in a way...it's still my illnesses, because they are the reason for the medication (except the 1 medication I have to take *for now*...due to my lack of self-care, which gave me another diagnosis).
Anyway...this thread isn't about me, it's about the OP...and I appreciate the prior post reminding me of that. Every time I see someone getting picked on for the low amount of calories they're consuming, I go into defense mode (knee-jerk reaction).
It's clear to see the OP's situation is entirely different...I simply just spouted off (my apologies).
Your knee jerk reaction is causing you to overlook a major difference between you and the OP. You are medically supervised and on medication ... she isn't (at least not that is revealed in her post). Highlighting that her decisions are not made in a healthy way is not picking on her.0 -
It would be interesting to know what medical condition has your TDEE at 1000 where if you eat more than that you gain fat. But alas, you've already told us you're not sharing that.
It isn't my medical conditions that cause me to need to stay at or below 1000 calories, it is the medication I have to take for these medical conditions that cause me to have to stay at that number. Once I've lost more weight..*one* of those scripts I may be able to drop and increase my caloric intake, but the others I will never be able to stop taking. So in a way...it's still my illnesses, because they are the reason for the medication (except the 1 medication I have to take *for now*...due to my lack of self-care, which gave me another diagnosis).
Anyway...this thread isn't about me, it's about the OP...and I appreciate the prior post reminding me of that. Every time I see someone getting picked on for the low amount of calories they're consuming, I go into defense mode (knee-jerk reaction).
It's clear to see the OP's situation is entirely different...I simply just spouted off (my apologies).
Your knee jerk reaction is causing you to overlook a major difference between you and the OP. You are medically supervised and on medication ... she isn't (at least not that is revealed in her post). Highlighting that her decisions are not made in a healthy way is not picking on her.
You may see it as an attack because of your personal experience but know that the response is more about the concern of the poster who is potentially living a lifestyle that can lead to an ED which is not something any of us should promote. Not just becuase it's a horrible condition but because it's against the Community Guidelines. Sure they don't always say it in the nicest way but it's the internet...these things should be expected.
OP, if you're willing to open your diary, it might help us to give you more constructive advice. Generally though, if you're unable to physically eat more food, many would recommend eating more calorie dense foods like nuts, seeds, whole eggs, full fat/calorie versions of foods (no diet, light, etc), legumes, lean meats, dried fruits, avocado, even dark chocolate. You can google for more ideas.0 -
I don't know how people who use to eat a overload of calories to get overweight, all of a sudden get full on very little.
While I agree that OP is eating too few calories, and it is an unhealthy trend, it irks me when I see this comment on the boards. I used to overeat on an almost daily basis (used to is fairly recently, I've only been monitoring my diet for a little under two months), and I have significantly decreased my caloric intake - probably by 1000 calories or so on average - and I still get full and satisfied. I hover around 1200-1400 a day. Yes, it's more than what the OP is taking in, but it's still on the lower end where people get concerned that it's not enough. Changing -what- I'm eating, and not stuffing my face past the point of comfort means I can now get full on much less than what I was eating before.
I know this is not the case for everyone, but for me, and probably many others - that's how.0
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