Is anyone interested in..

sarajenivieve

Learning about becoming vegan? I used to be a non vegan wellness coach, got fat after a break up joined this site lost a lot , went back up a lil became vegan and went back down. Anyways i miss coaching and have learned so much more about fitness and nutrition even then i knew when it was my job! so if anyone wants help, advice or has questions feel free

pobalita

You might have better luck with this in the Happy Herbivores group. There are a lot of people on there who are or are considering veganism.

_Zardoz_

As a vegan for 15 years becoming a Vegan is no instant way to lose weight. I was a 333 pound vegan. You can have bad Vegan diets the same way you can have good ones containing animal products. I must admit I get pretty fed up with people promoting the idea that Eating Vegan is some weightloss gimic. If people want to eat Vegan for ethical reasons or any other solid reasons I applaud them and would offer them advice myself but pushing it as a weightloss gimic is as pointless as pushing any other weightloss fad 'diet' because people wont stick at it

_Waffle_

Is anyone interested in..

... finishing the subject in the headline so we know there's no bacon in this thread?

Alluminati

sarajenivieve

if you read my post im offering to coach people so yes you could live off oreos and french fries youd be vegan but unhealthy, but if you are doing a whole foods plant based diet you will see health benifits which is why i am offering to help people. I myself am an ethical vegan but i wouldnt judge someones motives for looking into it, health is a very valid reason for changing eating habits.

Michelle_Padgett13

Are you offering to coach people for free? Or are you soliciting your professional services? If it's the latter, that's not allowed on these forums. FYI.

sarajenivieve

Are you offering to coach people for free? Or are you soliciting your professional services? If it's the latter, that's not allowed on these forums. FYI.

nope totally free! I used to be a professional coach like i mentioned but now im not working in that field however i know more then i did then and enjoy helping people so i figured id offer to help some people out if any one wants the help

WalkingAlong

sara- Before more sofa gifs follow, the word you're looking for is 'coAch', I think. Though you're adorable and I'm sure a lot of people here would be happy to be 'couched' by you! And I'm kind of giggling at "I used to be a professional couch."

sarajenivieve

OMG lmao ill fix that lol clearly multitasking to much

sarajenivieve

and it wont let me edit my typos...grrrrreat! lol

sarajenivieve

*coach omg my auto word is making me look so dumb lmao and why cant i go back and fix things grrr

sofaking6

I feel quite at home in this thread.

SLLRunner

Are you offering to coach people for free? Or are you soliciting your professional services? If it's the latter, that's not allowed on these forums. FYI.

nope totally free! I used to be a professional coach like i mentioned but now im not working in that field however i know more then i did then and enjoy helping people so i figured id offer to help some people out if any one wants the help

Sara, no offense intended, but what qualifications do you have to coach someone? Just because you were/are vegan does not mean you are qualified.

I am not interested in becoming vegan, I am just curious.

sarajenivieve

i used to be a coach for Curves , I've also studied fitness and nutrition but didnt go through with the testing for finanically reasons, still may down the road.

sarajenivieve

to clarify , the testing would have taken me from coach to certified trainer&nutritionist

SLLRunner

Sara,

Thanks for answering my question. What is your take on vegan as it relates to weight loss?

zyxst

No thanks. I don't have the discipline and ethical inclination to stop eating/using animal products.

sarajenivieve

It can definately help. Plant based eating which is really the more proper term for the diet aspect is fantastic for all around health when done properly. By properly i mean whole plant foods and balenced, techinqually you could eat nothing but fries and oreos and be considered vegan/plant based but obviously that isnt healthy. Eating a healthy plant based diet that covers all your nutrients however can be ideal for over all health(and is healthier for the planet to!). For a quick example lets look at milk, Milk has been marketed by the american dairy farmers association as a super food, im sure we've all seen the ads but in reality milk isnt really so great for you, and its a straight up horror story for weightloss! lets remove the fattening hormones fed to the cows that end up in your milk (if you buy regular grocery store milk) and assume a best case senario of small farm hormone free milk. Cows like human produce milk when they have a baby, a baby human drinks human milk to get the nutrients it needs to quickly grow to a toddler, same goes for a baby cow, only calfs need to grow to over 300lbs and quickly, thats what her mothers milk is designed to do for her. When we drink the milk meant for calves we are drinking that same formula thats meant to make a lil calf into a big cow, but of course we dont want to be big cows, so why do we drink it? now a days mostly due to misinformation fed to us through marketing. When we study and look for whats best for our bodies & the planet we are lead to plant based eating as suggested by the UN and when we start cutting the crap out of our lives the baggage starts to fall off as well

sarajenivieve

No thanks. I don't have the discipline and ethical inclination to stop eating/using animal products.

Its way easier then it sounds but no one can make you of course just offering to help those interested

zyxst

No thanks. I don't have the discipline and ethical inclination to stop eating/using animal products.

Its way easier then it sounds but no one can make you of course just offering to help those interested

Really? Doesn't sound easier for me to give up everything (food, clothes, housing, medicine, etc.). I'm going with a broad definition of vegan/veganism (no use of animals and animal products) mostly found here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism.

I appreciate that you want to educate and help interested people, but I really don't believe it's easy by any means, especially when I don't need to from ethical/moral/medical standpoints.

neanderthin

It can definately help. Plant based eating which is really the more proper term for the diet aspect is fantastic for all around health when done properly. By properly i mean whole plant foods and balenced, techinqually you could eat nothing but fries and oreos and be considered vegan/plant based but obviously that isnt healthy. Eating a healthy plant based diet that covers all your nutrients however can be ideal for over all health(and is healthier for the planet to!). For a quick example lets look at milk, Milk has been marketed by the american dairy farmers association as a super food, im sure we've all seen the ads but in reality milk isnt really so great for you, and its a straight up horror story for weightloss! lets remove the fattening hormones fed to the cows that end up in your milk (if you buy regular grocery store milk) and assume a best case senario of small farm hormone free milk. Cows like human produce milk when they have a baby, a baby human drinks human milk to get the nutrients it needs to quickly grow to a toddler, same goes for a baby cow, only calfs need to grow to over 300lbs and quickly, thats what her mothers milk is designed to do for her. When we drink the milk meant for calves we are drinking that same formula thats meant to make a lil calf into a big cow, but of course we dont want to be big cows, so why do we drink it? now a days mostly due to misinformation fed to us through marketing. When we study and look for whats best for our bodies & the planet we are lead to plant based eating as suggested by the UN and when we start cutting the crap out of our lives the baggage starts to fall off as well

After baby cows drink their mothers milk and get to 300lbs they then consume plant material and get to 2000lbs....why is that you think?

sarajenivieve

Im sure it doesnt sound easy before youve tried, i thought it would be super hard too but it really isnt at all, if you have any questions feel free to message me. Neanderthin Hey good question, so Cows milk is designed to quickly fatten, its very fattening (not to mention packed with hormones), and then they do eat a plant based diet, but not one a human would eat lol cattle will eat primarily between 1.6% to 3.0% of their body weight per day. Now if bulking is your goal you definately can bulk on a vegan diet like German strongman Patrik world record holder for shoulder lifts , log lifts and over head beer keg lifts. So weather your goal be losing or bulking (muscle not fat ) both are attainable based on healthy tweaks to the diet.

neanderthin

Im sure it doesnt sound easy before youve tried, i thought it would be super hard too but it really isnt at all, if you have any questions feel free to message me. Neanderthin Hey good question, so Cows milk is designed to quickly fatten, its very fattening (not to mention packed with hormones), and then they do eat a plant based diet, but not one a human would eat lol cattle will eat primarily between 1.6% to 3.0% of their body weight per day. Now if bulking is your goal you definately can bulk on a vegan diet like German strongman Patrik world record holder for shoulder lifts , log lifts and over head beer keg lifts. So weather your goal be losing or bulking (muscle not fat ) both are attainable based on healthy tweaks to the diet.

Most cattle eat grain and corn and humans sure do consume those, probably too many along with sugar, refined carbohydrates, refined vegetable oils, trans fats, which are all vegan........other than for moral reasons a vegan diet makes little sense imo.

kgeyser

I drink milk and consume dairy products daily. I've lost over 38 lb. How is this possible if milk is a nightmare for weight loss?

sarajenivieve

yes of course you can be an unhealthy vegan, but it is super healthy when done properly which is why i am offering to help people to have healthier bodies and help the planet at the same time here is a run down of health benifits of vegan eating (thats for asking ) 1.Reduced saturated fats. Dairy products and meats contain a large amount of saturated fats. By reducing the amount of saturated fats from your diet, you’ll improve your health tremendously, especially when it comes to cardiovascular health.
2.Carbohydrates. Carbohydrates provide energy for your body. When you don’t have enough carbohydrates, your body will burn muscle tissue.
3.Fiber. A diet high in fiber (as vegan eating usually is) leads to healthier bowel movements. High fiber diets help fight against colon cancer.
4.Magnesium. Aiding in the absorption of calcium, magnesium is an often overlooked vitamin in importance to a healthy diet. Nuts, seeds, and dark leafy greens are an excellent source of magnesium.
5.Potassium. Potassium balances water and acidity in your body and stimulates the kidneys to eliminate toxins. Diets high in potassium have shown to reduce the risk of cardiovascular diseases and cancer.
6.Folate. This B vitamin is an important part of a healthy diet. Folate helps with cell repair, generating red and white blood cells, and metabolizing amino acids.
7.Antioxidants. For protection against cell damage, antioxidants are one of the best ways to help your body. Many researchers also believe that antioxidants help protect your body against forming some types of cancer.
8.Vitamin C. Besides boosting your immune system, Vitamin C also helps keep your gums healthy and helps your bruises heal faster. Vitamin C is also an antioxidant.
9.Vitamin E. This powerful vitamin has benefits for your heart, skin, eyes, brain, and may even help prevent Alzheimer’s Disease. A diet high in grains, nuts, and dark leafy greens is full of Vitamin E.
10.Phytochemicals. Plant-based foods provide phytochemicals, which help to prevent and heal the body from cancer, boost protective enzymes, and work with antioxidants in the body.
11.Protein. That protein is good for your body is no surprise. It may be a surprise to learn that most Americans eat too much protein and in forms such as red meat that are not healthy ways of getting protein. Beans, nuts, peas, lentils, and soy products are all great ways to get the right amount of protein in a vegan diet.
Disease Prevention

Eating a healthy vegan diet has shown to prevent a number of diseases. Find out from the list below what you could potentially avoid just by switching to a healthy, balanced vegan way of eating.

12.Cardiovascular disease. Eating nuts and whole grains, while eliminating dairy products and meat, will improve your cardiovascular health. A British study indicates that a vegan diet reduces the risk for heart disease and Type 2 diabetes. Vegan diets go far in preventing heart attack and stroke.
13.Cholesterol. Eliminating any food that comes from an animal and you will eliminate all dietary cholesterol from your diet. Your heart will thank you for that.
14.Blood pressure. A diet rich in whole grains is beneficial to your health in many ways, including lowering high blood pressure.
15.Type 2 diabetes. Not only is a vegan diet a weapon against Type 2 diabetes, it is also "easier to follow than the standard diet recommended by the American Diabetic Association." Read more about it here.
16.Prostate cancer. A major study showed that men in the early stages of prostate cancer who switched to a vegan diet either stopped the progress of the cancer or may have even reversed the illness.
17.Colon cancer. Eating a diet consisting of whole grains, along with fresh fruits and vegetables, can greatly reduce your chances of colon cancer.
18.Breast cancer. Countries where women eat very little meat and animal products have a much lower rate of breast cancer than do the women in countries that consume more animal products.
19.Macular degeneration. Diets with lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, especially leafy greens, carrots, pumpkin, and sweet potatoes, can help prevent the onset of age-related macular degeneration.
20.Cataracts. Much the same way macular degeneration is headed off by a vegan diet, cataracts are also thought to be prevented through the intake of the same fruits and vegetables. Produce high in antioxidants are also believed to help prevent cataracts.
Thats just some basics from nursingdegree.net, The UN is really begging people to cut back on animal products to keep the planet going so theres that to, loads of benifits just a lil learning

sarajenivieve

It is possible but not ideal for optimal health & weightloss.

kgeyser

Cows like human produce milk when they have a baby, a baby human drinks human milk to get the nutrients it needs to quickly grow to a toddler, same goes for a baby cow, only calfs need to grow to over 300lbs and quickly, thats what her mothers milk is designed to do for her. When we drink the milk meant for calves we are drinking that same formula thats meant to make a lil calf into a big cow, but of course we dont want to be big cows, so why do we drink it?

As someone who has given birth to two humans and nursed both of them well beyond the average time (15 months and 25 months respectively), I'm going to weigh in on this. Breastmilk does aid in the growth of a child in that it feeds them, but extended exposure to breastmilk did not turn either of my children into The Hulk. The milk changes over time - the milk a human mother produces for a newborn is different than the milk produced for a toddler. Plus, there are many children who do not consume any dairy or breastmilk due to lactose intolerance or allergies, and their growth rate is the same as other children in those first years.

As for cows, the reason the little cow goes to a big cow in a short period of time is because cows are not people. They do not grow and mature over 18 years to adult size. Their rate of growth to reach full size is much quicker, much like you see in other mammals. It is not the milk causing the animal to grow quickly, it's the animals genetics and the fact that growing to full size quickly is what they are supposed to do.

kgeyser

It is possible but not ideal for optimal health & weightloss.

And you are basing this on what, exactly? My health is fine and my weightloss has been consistent and healthy. I've looked at the trend over time and my weight loss has been consistent with the expectations set by MFP as to how much I should lose in a given week based on intake.

If you want to be vegan, that's fine, I know plenty of vegans and I support them making the choice to live that way based on their ethics. But nutritionally speaking, vegan is not necessarily healthier than any other diet, nor are non-vegans less healthy than vegans.

sarajenivieve

when done properly it is healthier, you are consuming harmful chemicals and hormones and yes you can function with them in your system but why would want to? Like iv said its not the only way to be healthy but in my opinion based off of extensive research it is the best for optimal health. no one is making you do anything just here to lend a helping hand to those interested, 'be the change you want to see in the world' I want to see a more peaceful, empathetic, enivormentally friendly society so thats what im faccilitating

kgeyser

when done properly it is healthier, you are consuming harmful chemicals and hormones and yes you can function with them in your system but why would want to? Like iv said its not the only way to be healthy but in my opinion based off of extensive research it is the best for optimal health. no one is making you do anything just here to lend a helping hand to those interested, 'be the change you want to see in the world' I want to see a more peaceful, empathetic, enivormentally friendly society so thats what im faccilitating

Name the chemicals and hormones that are supposedly harming people and the exact way they are doing so (biologically and chemically), and post research (peer reviewed journals) stating that vegan is the best diet for optimal health and that consuming dairy prevents optimal health, and then you might have some credibility. Right now all you've posted is your opinion and an attempt to pass yourself off as an expert because you ate some vegan food and showed people how to use the machines at Curves.