BMR / TDEE? Starvation mode? Overwhelmed & CONFUSED!

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  • Chain_Ring
    Chain_Ring Posts: 753 Member
    Slow down there, tiger. Breathe easily for a few minutes..............ha ha
  • dluckylucas
    dluckylucas Posts: 23 Member
    Slow down there, tiger. Breathe easily for a few minutes..............ha ha

    Ok breathing ;)
  • dluckylucas
    dluckylucas Posts: 23 Member
    Ok my TDEE is 2385 and my BMR is 1735 and I eat around 1300 - 1400 a day. Am I too low? I have it set for 2 lbs a week loss.

    Sounds like you are doing fine to me based upon 65 pounds lost! Congrats!
  • shortntall1
    shortntall1 Posts: 333 Member
    TY!
    Ok my TDEE is 2385 and my BMR is 1735 and I eat around 1300 - 1400 a day. Am I too low? I have it set for 2 lbs a week loss.

    Sounds like you are doing fine to me based upon 65 pounds lost! Congrats!
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    "t's quite easy to eat/drink away the entire weeks deficit during the weekend." Yes, as mentioned before this could be my problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it is my only problem. I tend to have social events on the weekend that always include a glass or two of wine and some snacking. I am always at least 2 pounds up on Monday morning. I don't eat dairy or gluten and try to keep the snacking protein based. I own a seafood restaurant, so if I am eating out, I will eat my restaurant food but again I keep it to just fish and veggies, prepared in a "dietary" way. I mostly do my protein shakes for breakfast and lunch and go by the calorie count on the cartons. I do measure also but you are right I use measuring cups and tablespoons. I also graze a lot out of my garden and then estimate my salad / greens & veggies intake. For snacks, i count out my almonds or eat a protein bar and the nutrition info is on the back so I use that in my calculations. Sounds like I need to not have so much fun on the weekend and use my food scale! Do you think if I do these things I should still do the reset???
    Part of doing the reset (diet break is a better term) is to establish a baseline. You really have no idea what you maintain at because you really don't know how much you are eating. It sounds like M-F you have a fair estimate of calories though it could be tighter and the weekend sounds like its basically a guess. You seem very nervous and apprehensive about a 2 week bump in calories. Again I must stress that any weight gained is NOT going to be fat. Even if your maintenance was as low as 1800 (which is next to impossible with your activity level), you'd still only gain at max 0.8 lbs of fat. Just use the two weeks to help establish better calorie counting habits and get a real idea of what you eat in a week. You honestly may find that 2 weeks of eating a strictly counted (weekends included) 2000 calories is not all that much more then what you are consuming now.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I have my goal at 135 and I am 5'7", 152 lbs. Female, 40 years old. My calorie limit on MFP is 1200 My BMR is 1,397 and my TDEE is 2227. I am not losing weight and honestly have been stuck at 152 for years.

    Your logging is broken, and you are eating more than you think.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    "t's quite easy to eat/drink away the entire weeks deficit during the weekend." Yes, as mentioned before this could be my problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it is my only problem. I tend to have social events on the weekend that always include a glass or two of wine and some snacking. I am always at least 2 pounds up on Monday morning.

    Just so you understand - it's not the matter of gaining weight over 2 days. That merely proves you topped of glycogen stores.

    Did you log accurately though on the weekend?

    All kinds of people purposely eat bigger meals on the weekend, or breakdown and binge - but the still log it accurately.

    If you aren't logging the wine, and the snacks are totally unknown and not even logged as guesses, then yes, that could be the total problem.
    But if you are estimating - then it's obviously not.
    Not logging garden greens accurately isn't going to add up to much. As it was mentioned, calorie dense foods would be needed. Break out the healthy fats. Almonds good, high fat.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    Additionally, it would be really challenging for me to eat 2000 calories a day. I would be afraid of a few things:

    1. Feeling really crappy from all of the food, eating "too much" makes me feel sluggish.
    2. My pants won't fit in a week or less, I would have nothing to wear!
    3. Gaining more weight from the experiment and having even more to lose in the long run? Plus I would be used to eating a lot, wouldn't that "stretch the stomach?"
    4. I don't see how I would even ingest that much food on a busy day? That would be almost twice as many calories as I am currently eating. I am a busy mom and currently using protein bars and shakes (lunch and snacks) to get to my 1200 calories. Would I be doubling up on all my snacks and shakes?
    5. Those who advised this method are men, have any women tried this "re-set?" I would love to hear from you.

    Again, I will ask the dietician..... but these are all thing things that pop up in my head when I hear 2000 calories. Am I over thinking this whole thing?

    I haven't done a "reset" but I do eat 2000 calories a day to lose weight and I am female. 5'9" and 160lbs, so not much bigger than you are.
  • dluckylucas
    dluckylucas Posts: 23 Member
    "t's quite easy to eat/drink away the entire weeks deficit during the weekend." Yes, as mentioned before this could be my problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it is my only problem. I tend to have social events on the weekend that always include a glass or two of wine and some snacking. I am always at least 2 pounds up on Monday morning.

    Just so you understand - it's not the matter of gaining weight over 2 days. That merely proves you topped of glycogen stores.

    Did you log accurately though on the weekend?

    All kinds of people purposely eat bigger meals on the weekend, or breakdown and binge - but the still log it accurately.

    If you aren't logging the wine, and the snacks are totally unknown and not even logged as guesses, then yes, that could be the total problem.
    But if you are estimating - then it's obviously not.
    Not logging garden greens accurately isn't going to add up to much. As it was mentioned, calorie dense foods would be needed. Break out the healthy fats. Almonds good, high fat.

    Thank you for the explanation. I am slowly starting to get it. It is a lot of information to "digest." (lol) I am now thinking I have not been logging well on the weekends, I have tried but in retrospect it is more of an estimate. I usually come out about 1500 calories with that estimation, which in the past I have thought of as me being "really bad".... now after this discussion I see I was probably just hungry!! TODAY I ate 1500 today of healthy, protein rich food (no wine) :) and I feel great! This is 300 more calories than I have done on a weekday for a long time. I am being really careful and weighing everything now and I changed the settings on MFP so that helps. Baby steps...
  • kvansanity
    kvansanity Posts: 108 Member
    I already said that in my post, how did you miss that part?
  • kvansanity
    kvansanity Posts: 108 Member
    Are you kidding me... Dude not everyone can eat 2000 calories a day and lose weight especially if her TDEE is 2200. That's only a 200 deficit and with underestimation of calories and overestimation of exercise she's just going to maintain.


    *editing, forgot to hit quote button but I'm replying to the guy that said to eat 2000 a day*

    Her TDEE is 2200. Did you miss that part?

    Definitely addressed that in my post. I'm saying a 200 calorie deficit is going to show very slow results and since she nobody be 100% accurate with calories it may not even cause weight loss.
  • 2essie
    2essie Posts: 2,861 Member
    I am with vismal on this. Look how much he has lost. He knows what he is talking about.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Are you kidding me... Dude not everyone can eat 2000 calories a day and lose weight especially if her TDEE is 2200. That's only a 200 deficit and with underestimation of calories and overestimation of exercise she's just going to maintain.


    *editing, forgot to hit quote button but I'm replying to the guy that said to eat 2000 a day*

    Her TDEE is 2200. Did you miss that part?

    Definitely addressed that in my post. I'm saying a 200 calorie deficit is going to show very slow results and since she nobody be 100% accurate with calories it may not even cause weight loss.

    First part of this isn't about a deficit to lose weight, it's about getting a healthy body back so you can then move forward and lose weight in a reasonable healthy manner, with the negative results already experienced. If some is lost, great.

    Called taking a diet break, really a good idea for everyone from time to time. In fact better to do it when not needed, then wait too long and that's only nice option left.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    Are you kidding me... Dude not everyone can eat 2000 calories a day and lose weight especially if her TDEE is 2200. That's only a 200 deficit and with underestimation of calories and overestimation of exercise she's just going to maintain.


    *editing, forgot to hit quote button but I'm replying to the guy that said to eat 2000 a day*

    Her TDEE is 2200. Did you miss that part?

    Definitely addressed that in my post. I'm saying a 200 calorie deficit is going to show very slow results and since she nobody be 100% accurate with calories it may not even cause weight loss.
    You obviously didn't read what I wrote. The 2000 calories is not meant as her final weight loss number. It's meant as a 2 week diet break to give her a chance to establish good calorie counting habits. Right now her logging of food isn't very tight so her current calorie intake number is more of a guess. Her estimated TDEE of around 2200 seems like it's probably accurate given her height, weight, and activity level. Even the best of calorie counters make errors so picking 2000 calories for a "maintenance break" with a TDEE somewhere in the neighborhood of 2200 seems reasonable. After two weeks of strict calorie counting she can begin reducing calories slowly until weight loss occurs. Please read comments completely before posting...
  • dluckylucas
    dluckylucas Posts: 23 Member
    Are you kidding me... Dude not everyone can eat 2000 calories a day and lose weight especially if her TDEE is 2200. That's only a 200 deficit and with underestimation of calories and overestimation of exercise she's just going to maintain.


    *editing, forgot to hit quote button but I'm replying to the guy that said to eat 2000 a day*

    Her TDEE is 2200. Did you miss that part?

    Definitely addressed that in my post. I'm saying a 200 calorie deficit is going to show very slow results and since she nobody be 100% accurate with calories it may not even cause weight loss.
    You obviously didn't read what I wrote. The 2000 calories is not meant as her final weight loss number. It's meant as a 2 week diet break to give her a chance to establish good calorie counting habits. Right now her logging of food isn't very tight so her current calorie intake number is more of a guess. Her estimated TDEE of around 2200 seems like it's probably accurate given her height, weight, and activity level. Even the best of calorie counters make errors so picking 2000 calories for a "maintenance break" with a TDEE somewhere in the neighborhood of 2200 seems reasonable. After two weeks of strict calorie counting she can begin reducing calories slowly until weight loss occurs. Please read comments completely before posting...

    Just got back from a 60 min. body conditioning class and 20 minutes on the tread mill! Time to re-fuel! I am trying my best to get calories back up with out going over on carbs and sugar.... that will be trickier. Also, I am trying to really watch portion control so that will make it tough too. Suggestions on foods? Meal planning?
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member

    Just got back from a 60 min. body conditioning class and 20 minutes on the tread mill! Time to re-fuel! I am trying my best to get calories back up with out going over on carbs and sugar.... that will be trickier. Also, I am trying to really watch portion control so that will make it tough too. Suggestions on foods? Meal planning?
    First off, what are your protein, carb, and fat goals for the day?
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  • dluckylucas
    dluckylucas Posts: 23 Member
    Okay, here are my stats/ results from the day. It is set at 1490 and I am still having trouble getting to that number, I am even adding in almonds, protein bars & shakes. I basically had a gluten free english muffin/ egg & veggie sausage 4 breakfast. Protein shake 4 lunch & amys organic gluten free / dairy free burrito for dinner (added avocado) with homemade purple potato salad and caprese salad. As you can see I still didn't make my calorie goal and I feel like I ate all day!

    calories carbs fat protein fiber sugar

    Totals 1,416 146 60 85 22 48

    Goal 1,490 186 50 75 25 56

    Remaining 74 40 -10 -10 3 8
  • dluckylucas
    dluckylucas Posts: 23 Member
    Okay, here are my stats/ results from the day. It is set at 1490 and I am still having trouble getting to that number, I am even adding in almonds, protein bars & shakes. I basically had a gluten free english muffin/ egg & veggie sausage 4 breakfast. Protein shake 4 lunch & amys organic gluten free / dairy free burrito for dinner (added avocado) with homemade purple potato salad and caprese salad. As you can see I still didn't make my calorie goal and I feel like I ate all day!

    calories carbs fat protein fiber sugar

    Totals 1,416 146 60 85 22 48

    Goal 1,490 186 50 75 25 56

    Remaining 74 40 -10 -10 3 8
  • dluckylucas
    dluckylucas Posts: 23 Member
    There are my stats above
    First off, what are your protein, carb, and fat goals for the day?