Getting too much protein

skapo72

Do you lose less weight if you eat too much protein? I'm constantly going over my protein limit on my food diary. I'm not eating anything crazy, just a scoop and a half of protein powder for breakfast, and a soy sausage for lunch.

ksy1969

No. CICO, Calories In Calories Out. That is all that matters.

Actually, if you are going over on your protein with those two items I don't think you have anything to worry about. In reality you might be low on the amount of protein you should be eating when running at a deficit.

arditarose

Did you adjust your macros yourself or are you using what MFP gave you? I set my protein to be the highest of them all. I'm constantly trying to hit my goal and I eat protein with every meal and have a scoop after I lift.

diannethegeek

Calories are what matter for weight loss (assuming you don't have any medical conditions to worry about).

Macros (protein/fat/carbs) can help with things like health, gym performance, hunger, body composition, etc. You can set those up however you want and MFP's defaults are just one suggestion. In fact, if you're using MFP's default numbers a lot of us would tell you that you should be trying to eat more protein than they suggest every day. They set their protein default a little lower than many would recommend.

independant2406

I think everyone has a different approach to their balance of carbs, protein etc. I'm more successful when I have more protein. I tend to feel fuller and experience less cravings.

I have my protein goal set at 130. Some days I don't hit it and other days I'm over that goal. I'm still having good luck losing weight either way.

Kalikel

It's calories that make the big difference.

I almost never go over on protein. It does make me fuller for longer, so I guess that without it, I'd eat more and lose less. But I don't think it has much effect, otherwise.

auddii

I try to go over on protein if I can. Some days I fail. You only have to worry about too much protein if you have renal disease (as diagnosed by a doctor).

castlerobber

No, that small amount of protein isn't enough to hinder weight loss. You could actually use more some days. Try cutting out some of the bread in favor of more protein and healthy fats--you'll get more nutrition and feel full longer.

_lyndseybrooke_

Too much protein?

AJ_G

WalkingAlong

You can get too much protein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

"However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

InForBacon

You can get too much protein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

"However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

LOL

vmiletti

LyndseyLovesT 's comment said it all... lol.

Too much brotein? That's like too much testosterone for a male bodybuilder... is there ever enough??

rachelrb85

You can get too much protein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

"However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

Because Huffinton Post is such a reliable source for scientific information and getting enough protein in your diet doesn't help maintain muscle mass while cutting fat (or increase muscle mass if you're on a bulk) :noway:

AJ_G

You can get too much protein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

"However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

independant2406

There are dozens of scientific studies that show protein is more important than previously thought, and that it decreases appetite and also promotes lean muscle retention. Go to Google or Google Scholar and search: "scientific study high protein diet".

I've included just a few below.

From the University of Washington School of Medicine and the Oregon Health and Science University - an article published in the peer reviewed American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/41.short

Article Title: A high-protein diet induces sustained reductions in appetite, ad libitum caloric intake, and body weight..."
Quote: "Conclusions: An increase in dietary protein from 15% to 30% of energy at a constant carbohydrate intake produces a sustained decrease in caloric intake and results in significant weight loss."


From the Department of Human Nutrition, Centre for Advanced Food Studies, Royal University, Copenhagen, Denmark.- an article published in the peer reviewed American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/1.full

Article Title: The satiating power of protein—a key to obesity prevention?
Quote: "The acceptable protein distribution was set to 10–35% for adults."


From the Colorado School of Public Health, University of Colorado Denver - an article published in the peer reviewed American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/93/4/836.abstract

Article Title: Trends in carbohydrate, fat, and protein intakes and association with energy intake in normal-weight, overweight, and obese individuals: 1971–2006
Quote: "Dietary interventions should focus on decreasing energy intake and potentially by substituting protein for fat or carbohydrates."


Published in the American Journal of Physiology:
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/305/6/R582

Article Title: High-protein diet selectively reduces fat mass and improves glucose tolerance in Western-type diet-induced obese rats
Quote" We showed that a high-protein diet for 2 wk reduces body weight in Western-type diet-induced obese rats by selectively reducing fat, while sparing lean mass."

WalkingAlong

You can get too much protein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

"However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

Because Huffinton Post is such a reliable source for scientific information and getting enough protein in your diet doesn't help maintain muscle mass while cutting fat (or increase muscle mass if you're on a bulk) :noway:

HuffPost quoting Marion Nestle, one of the country's most respected nutrition experts.

I know MFP forum luvs it's protein but I'm not worrying about getting anymore than what the actual authorities recommend-- around 45-50g/day.

afortunatedragon

THE Nestle???? As in Nestle Company?
Well ...

Anywho.
I wonder how with 1.5 scoops of protein powder and one soy sausage you can be over your protein?
If this is all protein you eat a day you are max. at 40g -50g per day. This is very low in my view.
Who are the "actual authorities"?

WalkingAlong

THE Nestle???? As in Nestle Company?
Well ...

Anywho.
I wonder how with 1.5 scoops of protein powder and one soy sausage you can be over your protein?
If this is all protein you eat a day you are max. at 40g -50g per day. This is very low in my view.
Who are the "actual authorities"?

Yes, of course, Nestle the candy company. /sarcasm

Authorities as in the people in the world whom rational people turn to for dietary advice because they are the most knowledgeable in the field and are supplying unbiased, accurate information based on science.

As in the Mayo Clinic:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/high-protein-diets/faq-20058207

Harvard School of Public Health:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein-questions/#howmuch

Centers for Disease Control:
http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/protein.html#How much protein

USDA:
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/printpages/MyPlateFoodGroups/ProteinFoods/food-groups.protein-foods-amount.pdf

National Institutes of Health:
http://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2008/March/docs/01features_01.htm

ksy1969

You can get too much protein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

"However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

Because Huffinton Post is such a reliable source for scientific information and getting enough protein in your diet doesn't help maintain muscle mass while cutting fat (or increase muscle mass if you're on a bulk) :noway:

HuffPost quoting Marion Nestle, one of the country's most respected nutrition experts.

I know MFP forum luvs it's protein but I'm not worrying about getting anymore than what the actual authorities recommend-- around 45-50g/day.

MFP doesn't love protein, members of MFP love protein. Why? Well all you have to do is look at what respected nutrition experts are saying.

I decided to google Protein Intake and every post on the first page recommended higher protein intake than what the RDA is. there were a lot of PhD's quoted. Well I take that back, WebMD didn't. They are towing the line with the RDA from the government. I don't think WebMD is a reliable source on nutrition though.

Layne Norton, PhD recommends anywhere from 1g/ lb to 1.6g/ lb depending on your goals. See I found an expert with a PhD too that says different than yours.

Alan Aragaon, M.S. recommends minimum of 1g/ lb of lean body mass.

These two guys are on the cutting edge of nutrition today.

ksy1969

THE Nestle???? As in Nestle Company?
Well ...

Anywho.
I wonder how with 1.5 scoops of protein powder and one soy sausage you can be over your protein?
If this is all protein you eat a day you are max. at 40g -50g per day. This is very low in my view.
Who are the "actual authorities"?

Yes, of course, Nestle the candy company. /sarcasm

Authorities as in the people in the world whom rational people turn to for dietary advice because they are the most knowledgeable in the field and are supplying unbiased, accurate information based on science.

As in the Mayo Clinic:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/high-protein-diets/faq-20058207

Harvard School of Public Health:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein-questions/#howmuch

Centers for Disease Control:
http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/protein.html#How much protein

USDA:
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/printpages/MyPlateFoodGroups/ProteinFoods/food-groups.protein-foods-amount.pdf

National Institutes of Health:
http://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2008/March/docs/01features_01.htm

There is nothing to those links. They are either towing the governments RDA, which most people know is a joke or they are just some blog article. Even Dr. Hubbard in the National Institute of Health article says there is insufficient data to show if eating large amounts of protein is harmful and the article never really does say how much is enough except that most Americans are probably getting enough.