21 Day Sugar Detox

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  • Actually, provided your organs are functioning the way they should, it doesn't matter the specific situation- detoxes are bogus psuedoscience. You no more "detox" from sugar than you would from carrots.

    Thanks for your opinion,

    Although Neurological studies have shown processed sugars having similar effects on brain chemistry as drugs like cocaine and heroin. And I believe that detoxing is the process of reducing one's chemical reliance on substances like drugs or alcohol. So yes, some detoxes are pseudoscience based on the idea that if you rid your need for one thing, you can rid your need for anything. Still, the actual practice for some substances is sound.

    Besides, who would want to stop eating carrots? ;)

    Peace :)

    Neurological studies have also shown that processed sugar has the same effect on brain chemistry as petting puppies and having sex. It's not a chemical dependency. They stimulate the pleasure center of the brain. If you wanted to actually detox from sugar you'd have to quit all carbs.

    Simple, i.e.- processed carbohydrates have a different chemical structure than complex, i.e.- whole grain carbohydrates. So no, one would not have to eliminate ALL carbohydrates. And yes, actually, studies have been done showing that processed sugars can cause a chemical dependency, not just ignite the pleasure centers of the brain.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Actually, provided your organs are functioning the way they should, it doesn't matter the specific situation- detoxes are bogus psuedoscience. You no more "detox" from sugar than you would from carrots.

    Thanks for your opinion,

    Although Neurological studies have shown processed sugars having similar effects on brain chemistry as drugs like cocaine and heroin. And I believe that detoxing is the process of reducing one's chemical reliance on substances like drugs or alcohol. So yes, some detoxes are pseudoscience based on the idea that if you rid your need for one thing, you can rid your need for anything. Still, the actual practice for some substances is sound.

    Besides, who would want to stop eating carrots? ;)

    Peace :)

    Neurological studies have also shown that processed sugar has the same effect on brain chemistry as petting puppies and having sex. It's not a chemical dependency. They stimulate the pleasure center of the brain. If you wanted to actually detox from sugar you'd have to quit all carbs.

    Simple, i.e.- processed carbohydrates have a different chemical structure than complex, i.e.- whole grain carbohydrates. So no, one would not have to eliminate ALL carbohydrates. And yes, actually, studies have been done showing that processed sugars can cause a chemical dependency, not just ignite the pleasure centers of the brain.

    Which study? I'd like to read it. Not just the abstract or a news article talking about it. I would like to see the actual study.
  • Actually, provided your organs are functioning the way they should, it doesn't matter the specific situation- detoxes are bogus psuedoscience. You no more "detox" from sugar than you would from carrots.

    Thanks for your opinion,

    Although Neurological studies have shown processed sugars having similar effects on brain chemistry as drugs like cocaine and heroin. And I believe that detoxing is the process of reducing one's chemical reliance on substances like drugs or alcohol. So yes, some detoxes are pseudoscience based on the idea that if you rid your need for one thing, you can rid your need for anything. Still, the actual practice for some substances is sound.

    Besides, who would want to stop eating carrots? ;)

    Peace :)

    Whoever doesn't like them...perhaps?

    I ask the same question to you about "quitting sugar". I have no problem admitting that my success is dependent on my ability to adhere to whatever plan I put in place and that nothing is inherently wrong with any food. I do think if you have overeating issues with certain foods, there should be a limit to availability of it but to completely abstain from it perhaps is a miss. Only time will tell. Good luck to you. I've made peace with the fact that I like ice cream, cake, and donuts and none of those things are bad for me, so as long as I practice their consumption in moderation and with a balanced diet. It's made this much less miserable and sustainable. But everyone is different. Those trying to steer you away from completely getting rid of a food on the basis of control issues understand that this has to be about forever. If you can find lasting success never letting another drop of processed sugar touch you lips, more power to you but for most of us, that isn't a realistic goal and not doing so doesn't make us any less healthy than someone who does.

    Thanks,

    I'm not saying any foods are bad. I hate when that word is attributed to food. I did go to Culinary School and I have been working in food service for the past nine years. Yes, I have a very wonky relationship with food. You are right though, everyone is different. And considering that my PSYCHIATRIST is the one who suggested this to me, and I don't think she would have if she did not think it was possible, I think that it is not a misled obsessive thought. I have my hesitations, as I think everybody would, which is why I am asking whether or not any one has advice or if anyone has used a similar program.

    I am glad you can eat sweets though. And I do not think you are unhealthy for doing so. In fact, I think it shows that your body is properly able to process those sugars and the responses to it in a healthy way. Something that I cannot do right now.

    Thank you for your concern, advice, and sharing your experience.

    Peace :)
  • Which study? I'd like to read it. Not just the abstract or a news article talking about it. I would like to see the actual study.

    Unfortunately, yes, all I do have in abstracts from textbooks, which I do not have access to because all of my things are in storage in Chicago and I am currently in Miami until further notice. And yes, this may seem like a cop-out or me not knowing what I am talking about, but frankly, I don't care.

    My experiences with my eating disorder and addictive disorder are not yours, and every psychiatrist, psychologist, and physician have different ways of treating disorders. I think the fact that I am getting help and making sure that it is also healthily monitored is what is important here. I am not some shmuck who thinks she knows better than everyone else. I am a girl asking for advice because I have hesitations because yes, my psychiatrist suggested this to me, and this is a group of peers with similar interests that I for some reason trust.

    Besides, exercise bulimia is also a serious condition which is why I had hesitations joining MFP again in the first place because when this all started that was also an issue that I struggled with. Exercising six hours a day to make sure I lost enough weight. So is rejoining MFP and trying to focus on being more active misguided or amiss?

    So like I keep saying, everyone is different, and everyone has different body chemistry. And when I am able to get back to my textbooks in storage I will share it with you, if I still care by then.

    And for the record, I am on a hiatus from school in studying Food Science and Nutrition. I also went to Culinary School, have a degree in Sociology, and have been working in food service for the past nine years, and probably understand better than a lot of people how great and versatile of a role that food plays in our lives. As well as yes, the dangers of restricting, and the dangers of "dieting." But I don't considering this "dieting" or restricting. I consider this making a life change that I have needed for six years because I regret my decisions regarding my eating disorder and most of all regret nearly killing myself not even five months ago over them.

    I am so glad that you can eat sugar, really, I do not consider it unhealthy because it means that your body is processing it properly and having balanced reactions to it. That is healthy. Not unhealthy. Not bad. It is a product of evolution. Congratulations. Freud and Darwin would be so proud.
  • And do I think this will last forever?

    Who knows?

    But it's worth a shot. Just like anything is.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Which study? I'd like to read it. Not just the abstract or a news article talking about it. I would like to see the actual study.

    Unfortunately, yes, all I do have in abstracts from textbooks, which I do not have access to because all of my things are in storage in Chicago and I am currently in Miami until further notice. And yes, this may seem like a cop-out or me not knowing what I am talking about, but frankly, I don't care.

    My experiences with my eating disorder and addictive disorder are not yours, and every psychiatrist, psychologist, and physician have different ways of treating disorders. I think the fact that I am getting help and making sure that it is also healthily monitored is what is important here. I am not some shmuck who thinks she knows better than everyone else. I am a girl asking for advice because I have hesitations because yes, my psychiatrist suggested this to me, and this is a group of peers with similar interests that I for some reason trust.

    Besides, exercise bulimia is also a serious condition which is why I had hesitations joining MFP again in the first place because when this all started that was also an issue that I struggled with. Exercising six hours a day to make sure I lost enough weight. So is rejoining MFP and trying to focus on being more active misguided or amiss?

    So like I keep saying, everyone is different, and everyone has different body chemistry. And when I am able to get back to my textbooks in storage I will share it with you, if I still care by then.

    And for the record, I am on a hiatus from school in studying Food Science and Nutrition. I also went to Culinary School, have a degree in Sociology, and have been working in food service for the past nine years, and probably understand better than a lot of people how great and versatile of a role that food plays in our lives. As well as yes, the dangers of restricting, and the dangers of "dieting." But I don't considering this "dieting" or restricting. I consider this making a life change that I have needed for six years because I regret my decisions regarding my eating disorder and most of all regret nearly killing myself not even five months ago over them.

    I am so glad that you can eat sugar, really, I do not consider it unhealthy because it means that your body is processing it properly and having balanced reactions to it. That is healthy. Not unhealthy. Not bad. It is a product of evolution. Congratulations. Freud and Darwin would be so proud.

    I think you should learn a little about me before jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/usmcmp/view/when-1-becomes-10-684689

    You can call it detoxing all you want, but don't lie to yourself thinking that it isn't another diet or restricting. You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way. I've been in your shoes and have followed that path.
  • Which study? I'd like to read it. Not just the abstract or a news article talking about it. I would like to see the actual study.

    Unfortunately, yes, all I do have in abstracts from textbooks, which I do not have access to because all of my things are in storage in Chicago and I am currently in Miami until further notice. And yes, this may seem like a cop-out or me not knowing what I am talking about, but frankly, I don't care.

    My experiences with my eating disorder and addictive disorder are not yours, and every psychiatrist, psychologist, and physician have different ways of treating disorders. I think the fact that I am getting help and making sure that it is also healthily monitored is what is important here. I am not some shmuck who thinks she knows better than everyone else. I am a girl asking for advice because I have hesitations because yes, my psychiatrist suggested this to me, and this is a group of peers with similar interests that I for some reason trust.

    Besides, exercise bulimia is also a serious condition which is why I had hesitations joining MFP again in the first place because when this all started that was also an issue that I struggled with. Exercising six hours a day to make sure I lost enough weight. So is rejoining MFP and trying to focus on being more active misguided or amiss?

    So like I keep saying, everyone is different, and everyone has different body chemistry. And when I am able to get back to my textbooks in storage I will share it with you, if I still care by then.

    And for the record, I am on a hiatus from school in studying Food Science and Nutrition. I also went to Culinary School, have a degree in Sociology, and have been working in food service for the past nine years, and probably understand better than a lot of people how great and versatile of a role that food plays in our lives. As well as yes, the dangers of restricting, and the dangers of "dieting." But I don't considering this "dieting" or restricting. I consider this making a life change that I have needed for six years because I regret my decisions regarding my eating disorder and most of all regret nearly killing myself not even five months ago over them.

    I am so glad that you can eat sugar, really, I do not consider it unhealthy because it means that your body is processing it properly and having balanced reactions to it. That is healthy. Not unhealthy. Not bad. It is a product of evolution. Congratulations. Freud and Darwin would be so proud.

    I think you should learn a little about me before jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/usmcmp/view/when-1-becomes-10-684689

    You can call it detoxing all you want, but don't lie to yourself thinking that it isn't another diet or restricting. You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way. I've been in your shoes and have followed that path.


    Here is an article. Not one that I have read, but it is a study reflecting what I said.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/

    And aren't you jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food?

    And thank you for insulting all the good work I have done in recovery the past five months. Real classy.
  • Thank you for sharing your post though.

    I know exactly how it feels. i relate to the comfort of a full stomach and I know what it feels like to beat yourself up after a binge day.

    I have stopped beating myself up after binge/purge days. I have stopped beating myself after bingeing without having to purge, period. And I do not intend for food to control me. Nothing is permanent. And that's a basic principle of life.

    But just because it's not permanent does not mean it is not worth trying.

    And I was not judging your relationship with food. I was merely highlighting my experience with it and I am sorry if you took offense to that.
  • Here is an article. Not one that I have read, but it is a study reflecting what I said.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/

    And aren't you jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food?

    And thank you for insulting all the good work I have done in recovery the past five months. Real classy.

    I should say not one that I had read before now.
  • We are all different people with all different relationships with food. Our bodies all react differently to food. Our minds all react differently to food. Some people have more extreme reactions than others and people overcome those varying reactions in different ways.

    No one is stupid or lying to themselves for trying one thing or the other. No one is wrong or bad. One thing that works for another person may not work for the next. No one is in the exact same mindset and no one has the exact same body.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member

    Here is an article. Not one that I have read, but it is a study reflecting what I said.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/

    And aren't you jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food?

    And thank you for insulting all the good work I have done in recovery the past five months. Real classy.

    1. They never defined the source of the sweet substance/sugar they used, so they could have used fruit juice or sugar water.
    2. They starved the rats for 12 hours then only allowed them short term access to a sugary liquid with a small amount of food.

    If someone starved you for 12 hours and then let you chug something sweet you'd do it because you are hungry and you are trying to get full before being starved again. If this continued for a month then you'd have serious issues when they took the sugary substance away and only offered the small amounts of food. They were not just altering the rats food intake. Starvation and interrupted sleep schedules mess with hunger hormones and chemical responses in the brain.

    There's really only 3 paragraphs talking about the actual study. The rest of the page is other studies that talk about addiction and have nothing to do with sugar.

  • Here is an article. Not one that I have read, but it is a study reflecting what I said.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/

    And aren't you jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food?

    And thank you for insulting all the good work I have done in recovery the past five months. Real classy.

    1. They never defined the source of the sweet substance/sugar they used, so they could have used fruit juice or sugar water.
    2. They starved the rats for 12 hours then only allowed them short term access to a sugary liquid with a small amount of food.

    If someone starved you for 12 hours and then let you chug something sweet you'd do it because you are hungry and you are trying to get full before being starved again. If this continued for a month then you'd have serious issues when they took the sugary substance away and only offered the small amounts of food. They were not just altering the rats food intake. Starvation and interrupted sleep schedules mess with hunger hormones and chemical responses in the brain.

    There's really only 3 paragraphs talking about the actual study. The rest of the page is other studies that talk about addiction and have nothing to do with sugar.

    Fine, I won't do the "detox."

    Good luck with your binge eating.

    Your post was actually very relatable and inspiring.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member

    Here is an article. Not one that I have read, but it is a study reflecting what I said.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/

    And aren't you jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food?

    And thank you for insulting all the good work I have done in recovery the past five months. Real classy.

    1. They never defined the source of the sweet substance/sugar they used, so they could have used fruit juice or sugar water.
    2. They starved the rats for 12 hours then only allowed them short term access to a sugary liquid with a small amount of food.

    If someone starved you for 12 hours and then let you chug something sweet you'd do it because you are hungry and you are trying to get full before being starved again. If this continued for a month then you'd have serious issues when they took the sugary substance away and only offered the small amounts of food. They were not just altering the rats food intake. Starvation and interrupted sleep schedules mess with hunger hormones and chemical responses in the brain.

    There's really only 3 paragraphs talking about the actual study. The rest of the page is other studies that talk about addiction and have nothing to do with sugar.

    Fine, I won't do the "detox."

    Good luck with your binge eating.

    Your post was actually very relatable and inspiring.

    Good luck to you as well.

    You may find some support in this group: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/6145-binge-eaters-trying-to-recover

  • Here is an article. Not one that I have read, but it is a study reflecting what I said.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/

    And aren't you jumping to conclusions about my relationship with food?

    And thank you for insulting all the good work I have done in recovery the past five months. Real classy.

    1. They never defined the source of the sweet substance/sugar they used, so they could have used fruit juice or sugar water.
    2. They starved the rats for 12 hours then only allowed them short term access to a sugary liquid with a small amount of food.

    If someone starved you for 12 hours and then let you chug something sweet you'd do it because you are hungry and you are trying to get full before being starved again. If this continued for a month then you'd have serious issues when they took the sugary substance away and only offered the small amounts of food. They were not just altering the rats food intake. Starvation and interrupted sleep schedules mess with hunger hormones and chemical responses in the brain.

    There's really only 3 paragraphs talking about the actual study. The rest of the page is other studies that talk about addiction and have nothing to do with sugar.

    Fine, I won't do the "detox."

    Good luck with your binge eating.

    Your post was actually very relatable and inspiring.

    Good luck to you as well.

    You may find some support in this group: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/6145-binge-eaters-trying-to-recover

    I am actually already in the Recovering from Bulimia/Anorexia group, but I will look into that as well.

    Thank you.
  • kirkor
    kirkor Posts: 2,530 Member
    You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way.

    Would you say that to an alcoholic?
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way.

    Would you say that to an alcoholic?

    Well, in all fairness, alcoholics can easily avoid alcohol. People with food disorders can't avoid food. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

    While a harsh delivery perhaps, I have to agree. I have already said here that I think abstaining from any one particular food (especially sugar, which is everywhere) is perpetuating the disorder and probably not the best strategy for recovery.
  • LookingBusy
    LookingBusy Posts: 72 Member
    Okay so I didn't read a lot of the responses, but I skimmed.

    I never tried the detox but I did try to cut back on sugar.

    I don't know if these will help but they worked for me. I got in to a bad habit of craving sugar around 3pm each day at work.

    - buy a good quality chocolate bar (typically less sugar than cheap stuff) and have a square when you are craving
    - slowly switch to a dark chocolate (again, typically less sugar)
    - I've started planning sweet snacks to bring to work that are fairly healthy, like PB and an apple, berries, yogurt and pumpkin butter, small cup of apple cider
    - I also started replacing snacks with a nice herbal tea. Some fruity teas and "dessert" flavoured teas allow me to beat the boredom cravings

    Little things but they helped me curve my sugar cravings a bit :) Good luck!
  • You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way.

    Would you say that to an alcoholic?

    Well, in all fairness, alcoholics can easily avoid alcohol. People with food disorders can't avoid food. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

    While a harsh delivery perhaps, I have to agree. I have already said here that I think abstaining from any one particular food (especially sugar, which is everywhere) is perpetuating the disorder and probably not the best strategy for recovery.

    I know you don't mean offense by this, but as a recovering alcoholic as well, alcohol is not easy to avoid and is in surprisingly many more foods that a lot of people realize. Especially fine dining cuisine...which OMG, not gonna lie, I miss.

    Again, I'm talking about refined processed sugars. NOT natural sugars.
  • Okay so I didn't read a lot of the responses, but I skimmed.

    I never tried the detox but I did try to cut back on sugar.

    I don't know if these will help but they worked for me. I got in to a bad habit of craving sugar around 3pm each day at work.

    - buy a good quality chocolate bar (typically less sugar than cheap stuff) and have a square when you are craving
    - slowly switch to a dark chocolate (again, typically less sugar)
    - I've started planning sweet snacks to bring to work that are fairly healthy, like PB and an apple, berries, yogurt and pumpkin butter, small cup of apple cider
    - I also started replacing snacks with a nice herbal tea. Some fruity teas and "dessert" flavoured teas allow me to beat the boredom cravings

    Little things but they helped me curve my sugar cravings a bit :) Good luck!

    Thank you for your tips.

    I love dark chocolate. I never thought of yogurt and pumpkin butter together. That sounds super tasty.
    And I LOVE herbals teas. Since I can't have caffeine, besides water, that is all that I drink. Sometimes with a little bit of raw honey, which has some great nutritive qualities.

    Peace :)
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way.

    Would you say that to an alcoholic?

    Well, in all fairness, alcoholics can easily avoid alcohol. People with food disorders can't avoid food. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

    While a harsh delivery perhaps, I have to agree. I have already said here that I think abstaining from any one particular food (especially sugar, which is everywhere) is perpetuating the disorder and probably not the best strategy for recovery.

    I know you don't mean offense by this, but as a recovering alcoholic as well, alcohol is not easy to avoid and is in surprisingly many more foods that a lot of people realize. Especially fine dining cuisine...which OMG, not gonna lie, I miss.

    Again, I'm talking about refined processed sugars. NOT natural sugars.

    Everything is relative. Alcohol is far easier to avoid than food. You can't just stop eating. I'm not diminishing the struggle for alcoholics, but it really is an apples to oranges comparison.

    You know what I'm going to say....refined or natural, it's still an elimination/selection diet.
  • You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way.

    Would you say that to an alcoholic?

    Well, in all fairness, alcoholics can easily avoid alcohol. People with food disorders can't avoid food. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

    While a harsh delivery perhaps, I have to agree. I have already said here that I think abstaining from any one particular food (especially sugar, which is everywhere) is perpetuating the disorder and probably not the best strategy for recovery.

    I know you don't mean offense by this, but as a recovering alcoholic as well, alcohol is not easy to avoid and is in surprisingly many more foods that a lot of people realize. Especially fine dining cuisine...which OMG, not gonna lie, I miss.

    Again, I'm talking about refined processed sugars. NOT natural sugars.

    Everything is relative. Alcohol is far easier to avoid than food. You can't just stop eating. I'm not diminishing the struggle for alcoholics, but it really is an apples to oranges comparison.

    You know what I'm going to say....refined or natural, it's still an elimination/selection diet.

    It's only apples to oranges if you're not going through it.

    Besides, it has been stated that is it elimination/selective/restrictive. So is not drinking alcohol or ingesting caffeine with that argumentative thinking.

    I shouldn't have brought it up. I know it's a sensitive topic. And I'm so done with it. Because listening to people tell you how to eat is also elimination/selective/restrictive. Because at the end of the day we all have our own bodies and we all have to listen to it and at least try what is best for it.

    So I might be lying to myself or in denial or whatever people think about this post, but I am being monitored and have come to know my limits.

    The funny thing is if I had not mentioned that I have an eating disorder most people (not necessarily saying you) would be like, "Yeah, all for it! Do it! Here are some other tips." With the occasional detox-scmetox comment. So my question then is, for someone not struggling with an eating or addictive disorder would it still be considered eliminating/selective/restrictive? Or would it just be another step for them?

    But honestly, that is a rhetorical question. Mostly because we all know the answer to that.

    I do appreciate your concern though.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    You are choosing avoidance over learning to deal with it in a healthy way.

    Would you say that to an alcoholic?

    Well, in all fairness, alcoholics can easily avoid alcohol. People with food disorders can't avoid food. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

    While a harsh delivery perhaps, I have to agree. I have already said here that I think abstaining from any one particular food (especially sugar, which is everywhere) is perpetuating the disorder and probably not the best strategy for recovery.

    I know you don't mean offense by this, but as a recovering alcoholic as well, alcohol is not easy to avoid and is in surprisingly many more foods that a lot of people realize. Especially fine dining cuisine...which OMG, not gonna lie, I miss.

    Again, I'm talking about refined processed sugars. NOT natural sugars.

    Everything is relative. Alcohol is far easier to avoid than food. You can't just stop eating. I'm not diminishing the struggle for alcoholics, but it really is an apples to oranges comparison.

    You know what I'm going to say....refined or natural, it's still an elimination/selection diet.

    It's only apples to oranges if you're not going through it.

    Besides, it has been stated that is it elimination/selective/restrictive. So is not drinking alcohol or ingesting caffeine with that argumentative thinking.

    I shouldn't have brought it up. I know it's a sensitive topic. And I'm so done with it. Because listening to people tell you how to eat is also elimination/selective/restrictive. Because at the end of the day we all have our own bodies and we all have to listen to it and at least try what is best for it.

    So I might be lying to myself or in denial or whatever people think about this post, but I am being monitored and have come to know my limits.

    The funny thing is if I had not mentioned that I have an eating disorder most people (not necessarily saying you) would be like, "Yeah, all for it! Do it! Here are some other tips." With the occasional detox-scmetox comment. So my question then is, for someone not struggling with an eating or addictive disorder would it still be considered eliminating/selective/restrictive? Or would it just be another step for them?

    But honestly, that is a rhetorical question. Mostly because we all know the answer to that.

    I do appreciate your concern though.

    I'm not going to debate with you about alcohol. I don't agree.

    Pretty much everyone here would say no to a detox, no-sugar diet, regardless of your ED. In fact, people have been really nice here because you are struggling with ED. Usually, people are even more blunt.
  • I'm not going to debate with you about alcohol. I don't agree.

    Pretty much everyone here would say no to a detox, no-sugar diet, regardless of your ED. In fact, people have been really nice here because you are struggling with ED. Usually, people are even more blunt.

    LOL.

    Ok, well then, at least people are being nice. So thank you for being nice.

    And I don't mean that facetiously. Truly, thank you for being understanding.

    And maybe it is because I just joined and I don't scroll over the message boards that often, but I apologize for making the assumption.

    Peace :)
  • parkscs
    parkscs Posts: 1,639 Member
    Ultimately it's only 21 days, which is nothing in the grand scheme of things. I don't know what if anything you'll gain from cutting sugar out, but if you think avoiding certain sugars for 3 weeks will help then I'd say go for it, because it can't really hurt in the long run. The physical side of weight loss is pretty simple and from that perspective I can't see how this would help you, but the mental aspect is highly individual and stuff that works for one person would only serve to make another miserable. If you think it'll help, give it a try and if it's not helping, reassess and readjust.
  • Ultimately it's only 21 days, which is nothing in the grand scheme of things. I don't know what if anything you'll gain from cutting sugar out, but if you think avoiding certain sugars for 3 weeks will help then I'd say go for it, because it can't really hurt in the long run. The physical side of weight loss is pretty simple and from that perspective I can't see how this would help you, but the mental aspect is highly individual and stuff that works for one person would only serve to make another miserable. If you think it'll help, give it a try and if it's not helping, reassess and readjust.

    Thank you,

    And my plan is to reassess and readjust if it does not work. I figure though, like you say, it's worth it to give it a try because in the grand scheme of things, no, it does not seem like a long time.

    Thank you for being understanding.

    Peace :)
  • opus649
    opus649 Posts: 633 Member
    The funny thing is if I had not mentioned that I have an eating disorder most people (not necessarily saying you) would be like, "Yeah, all for it! Do it! Here are some other tips."

    No, they really wouldn't.
  • The funny thing is if I had not mentioned that I have an eating disorder most people (not necessarily saying you) would be like, "Yeah, all for it! Do it! Here are some other tips."

    No, they really wouldn't.

    I had already apologized for making that assumption, thank you.
  • The funny thing is if I had not mentioned that I have an eating disorder most people (not necessarily saying you) would be like, "Yeah, all for it! Do it! Here are some other tips."

    No, they really wouldn't.

    I had already apologized for making that assumption, thank you.

    And I apologize if it offended you.
  • soupandcookies
    soupandcookies Posts: 212 Member
    I don't mean to beat a dead horse, and I know you feel done with this topic, but I thought more about it, and I just wanted to mention 1 thing. When I was deep in my disorder, the idea of doing anything for 21 days, was laughable. A week was laughable.If I had tried a dietary change at that time, and committed to a month, I would have failed on day 2. It took truly adopting a "one day at a time" attitude. I would really encourage to start small, and try it for 24 hours.. Maybe tell yourself that you will try going without sugar or processed food, for one day. See if you are triggered by the restriction.See if you feel good. See if you feel bad. See if your head feels clear and positive. See if you have tons of cravings or feel crazed. Make changes daily, and never feel you've failed, if something isn't working for you. If you commit to the sugar detox, and you slip, you are likely to beat yourself up, and feel you've failed. Don't set yourself up for that. Instead, commit to treating yourself like you deserve to be treated (like the awesome, strong, fierce and fabulous woman you are), for a day. Deal with tomorrow when it comes.

    Have a good 24, my friend.
  • I don't mean to beat a dead horse, and I know you feel done with this topic, but I thought more about it, and I just wanted to mention 1 thing. When I was deep in my disorder, the idea of doing anything for 21 days, was laughable. A week was laughable.If I had tried a dietary change at that time, and committed to a month, I would have failed on day 2. It took truly adopting a "one day at a time" attitude. I would really encourage to start small, and try it for 24 hours.. Maybe tell yourself that you will try going without sugar or processed food, for one day. See if you are triggered by the restriction.See if you feel good. See if you feel bad. See if your head feels clear and positive. See if you have tons of cravings or feel crazed. Make changes daily, and never feel you've failed, if something isn't working for you. If you commit to the sugar detox, and you slip, you are likely to beat yourself up, and feel you've failed. Don't set yourself up for that. Instead, commit to treating yourself like you deserve to be treated (like the awesome, strong, fierce and fabulous woman you are), for a day. Deal with tomorrow when it comes.

    Have a good 24, my friend.

    Thanks so much.

    This actually made me smile. I like your advice to take it one day at a time because yes, then I will not be likely to beat myself up over it. And my plan is that if this does not work out to take a few breaths and continue on in my life. The only reason why I was asking about the 21-Day Sugar Detox is because I have heard a lot about it, and because my psychiatrist did suggest a similar program. But I also asked for any advice for successfully reducing sugar intake. So thank you so much for answering all of my questions and giving very sound advice. :)

    Honestly, I did not mean to start arguments with this thread, and I did not mean to insult anyone by bringing up a sensitive subject.
    And while I do have more to say (not in response you you, soupandcookie) I will leave it at that.

    Thanks again for your advice and understanding and for making me smile. :)

    Peace :)