Can I PLS lift every day?!
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yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.0 -
Sorry for the hijack though.
Haha, no worries! :drinker:
A lot of passionate exercisers on MFP. Although, I still want to know how someone gains on a one muscle group workout per week? I don't understand it.
You dont need to understand how it works. Just know that it does. I train each lift once a week and have a lbm of 250+lbs.
What a good teacher. I am talking about gains not how much LBM you have.
Me having a 250lbm doesn't qualify as gains? Do you think I started lifting with that much muscle? Lol. I'm not your teacher btw, just a more experienced lifter taking some time out of my day to give you some advice. If you don't like what I have to say that's fine. You can disregard it. Just know that I won't try to help you in the future.
Maybe I should of specify gains as in weight lifting goals. Quantity of weight which has nothing to do with LBM. There are some very small people with low LBM who put up more weight than a lot of people.
Okay then, I total 1700+lbs raw w/ no knee wraps and I train that way. You don't have to understand how it works, just know that it does. Better?0 -
not worth it0
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Sorry for the hijack though.
Haha, no worries! :drinker:
A lot of passionate exercisers on MFP. Although, I still want to know how someone gains on a one muscle group workout per week? I don't understand it.
You dont need to understand how it works. Just know that it does. I train each lift once a week and have a lbm of 250+lbs.
What a good teacher. I am talking about gains not how much LBM you have.
Me having a 250lbm doesn't qualify as gains? Do you think I started lifting with that much muscle? Lol. I'm not your teacher btw, just a more experienced lifter taking some time out of my day to give you some advice. If you don't like what I have to say that's fine. You can disregard it. Just know that I won't try to help you in the future.
Maybe I should of specify gains as in weight lifting goals. Quantity of weight which has nothing to do with LBM. There are some very small people with low LBM who put up more weight than a lot of people.
Okay then, I total 1700+lbs raw w/ no knee wraps and I train that way. You don't have to understand how it works, just know that it does. Better?
Yes it is0 -
So that isn't a good reason to listen? Why don't you go ask a bum how to get rich then.0
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A beginner lifter needs more frequency, which is why full body routines are recommended that hit every muscle group several times per week. As you get more experienced, your body needs longer recovery times, which is why long time lifters will need a full week between hitting muscle groups, but will continue to see (smaller) gains.yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.0 -
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
Since you've been training a while, a lot of it is just in the programming or modification of acute training variables being poor which causes the need to train more frequently. There's always poor development of antagonist muscle groups as well which can be a limiting factor.
Although I will say that sometimes just getting the frequency in to practice the movement is useful in itself, but that doesn't mean you're going full-bore. One day can be more maximal in-nature and another day be sub-max volume, etc.
It's not a bad idea to take advice from somebody that is a strong MF'er either.0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
It's a different type of load periodization. In this case, if you're lifting the lift once a week, you'll probably spend a week doing mid reps, then heavy, then light, then mid, then heavy, and cycle that.
Light being 50-70%, mid being 70-80%, heavy being 80-105%.0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
There are tons of ways to get to what you want- lifting multiple splits like you do probably isn't the way for strength alone honestly.
Higher weight- or higher volume in terms of poundage moved per workout will all impact what you do- I would say even though you bench more than I do- I could arguable bench more weight per week than you do- because I bench EVERY workout- and I bench sometimes TWICE in my workout- i.e. bench- squat- bench- squat. That's a rotation on Monday's sometimes.
It happens- I push a lot of weight- even though the numbers are less than yours- there are different ways to get gains- don't write off a program just because you don't know anything about it.0 -
bench squat bench squat?
and you had the gall to call me crazy...0 -
bench squat bench squat?
and you had the gall to call me crazy...
Lol. I'm assuming she's following one of the Sheiko templates. #37 or #32 I presume? They are kinda crazy but some people swear by them. When I gave it a shot I just got injured.0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
There are tons of ways to get to what you want- lifting multiple splits like you do probably isn't the way for strength alone honestly.
Higher weight- or higher volume in terms of poundage moved per workout will all impact what you do- I would say even though you bench more than I do- I could arguable bench more weight per week than you do- because I bench EVERY workout- and I bench sometimes TWICE in my workout- i.e. bench- squat- bench- squat. That's a rotation on Monday's sometimes.
It happens- I push a lot of weight- even though the numbers are less than yours- there are different ways to get gains- don't write off a program just because you don't know anything about it.
You probably could. I have been doing a lot of 5,3,1 lately. I notice my endurance is trash so this week is a low weight high rep for all muscles.0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
It's a different type of load periodization. In this case, if you're lifting the lift once a week, you'll probably spend a week doing mid reps, then heavy, then light, then mid, then heavy, and cycle that.
Light being 50-70%, mid being 70-80%, heavy being 80-105%.
Aha! This is what I've been doing following NROL. I promised myself I would complete the entire program before I tried anything else. You'd think 2 reps of 25 anything would be easy - but it ain't!0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
There are tons of ways to get to what you want- lifting multiple splits like you do probably isn't the way for strength alone honestly.
Higher weight- or higher volume in terms of poundage moved per workout will all impact what you do- I would say even though you bench more than I do- I could arguable bench more weight per week than you do- because I bench EVERY workout- and I bench sometimes TWICE in my workout- i.e. bench- squat- bench- squat. That's a rotation on Monday's sometimes.
It happens- I push a lot of weight- even though the numbers are less than yours- there are different ways to get gains- don't write off a program just because you don't know anything about it.
You probably could. I have been doing a lot of 5,3,1 lately. I notice my endurance is trash so this week is a low weight high rep for all muscles.
If you haven't already, checkout "Beyond 5/3/1". It adds some cool stuff to 5/3/1 so you can work up to heavier loads and / or easily add volume.0 -
When you are working out you are exhausting muscle fibers and depleting energy stores. in fact, muscle growth ONLY happens during rest - when the muscle can rebuild and replenish. To exhaust your muscular system repeatedly will not on ly reduce or stop results, but will hamper your performance.
The key to muscle growth and strength is to work smarter and not just harder.0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
It's a different type of load periodization. In this case, if you're lifting the lift once a week, you'll probably spend a week doing mid reps, then heavy, then light, then mid, then heavy, and cycle that.
Light being 50-70%, mid being 70-80%, heavy being 80-105%.
Aha! This is what I've been doing following NROL. I promised myself I would complete the entire program before I tried anything else. You'd think 2 reps of 25 anything would be easy - but it ain't!
Want to talk easy? I had a crap work out today, but closed it out with 3 sets of 100 leg extensions at 70#. That was(n't) easy. Anyone can do it.
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When you are working out you are exhausting muscle fibers and depleting energy stores. in fact, muscle growth ONLY happens during rest - when the muscle can rebuild and replenish. To exhaust your muscular system repeatedly will not on ly reduce or stop results, but will hamper your performance.
The key to muscle growth and strength is to work smarter and not just harder.
Thanks! Ok... back to the foreign language..
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bench squat bench squat?
and you had the gall to call me crazy...
Lol. I'm assuming she's following one of the Sheiko templates. #37 or #32 I presume? They are kinda crazy but some people swear by them. When I gave it a shot I just got injured.
32. Winner winner chicken dinner.
Tomorrow's my last workout for the whole thing_ I test on Saturday- I haven't followed the program properly- typically (so I'm told) you do like 29-30 (31??) then 32 or some such- I wasn't given much input on how to run it- and research didn't give me much either so I ran 29 twice- then 30 twice- then 32 (I ran them twice b/c they kept changing the "competition" they wanted to enter= partly that- and partly I didn't get good guidance on wtf I was doing.
Either way- I haven't gotten good results b/c I kind of got fukkkered up on the programming- but yeah- it's a lot of a lot. LOL It's honestly not so bad once you get into it- but it does kind of suck.
I'm debating running it for its' full 12 week or so glory and seeing if that helps with improvement- I feel I didn't give it a fair shot b/c of my lack of knowledge and bad lay out.
But yes- apparently I'm some sort of crazy bad a@@ for running it- since I'm a girl not on juice running the crazy Russian power lifting program. It amuses me. I don't think it's that awful- but I mean- I'm not saying it's EASY either LOL0 -
Hell, with the gumby legs I had today, I could almost understand why some folks use hgh.0
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yes. I lift 7 days on, 1 off. And this is on the recommendation of a well known top bodybuilding coach. it works for both of us. Just intelligently design a program that allows muscles to recover. Optimize nutrition around your workouts. Don't do it under a severe caloric deficit.0
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bench squat bench squat?
and you had the gall to call me crazy...
Lol. I'm assuming she's following one of the Sheiko templates. #37 or #32 I presume? They are kinda crazy but some people swear by them. When I gave it a shot I just got injured.
32. Winner winner chicken dinner.
Tomorrow's my last workout for the whole thing_ I test on Saturday- I haven't followed the program properly- typically (so I'm told) you do like 29-30 (31??) then 32 or some such- I wasn't given much input on how to run it- and research didn't give me much either so I ran 29 twice- then 30 twice- then 32 (I ran them twice b/c they kept changing the "competition" they wanted to enter= partly that- and partly I didn't get good guidance on wtf I was doing.
Either way- I haven't gotten good results b/c I kind of got fukkkered up on the programming- but yeah- it's a lot of a lot. LOL It's honestly not so bad once you get into it- but it does kind of suck.
I'm debating running it for its' full 12 week or so glory and seeing if that helps with improvement- I feel I didn't give it a fair shot b/c of my lack of knowledge and bad lay out.
But yes- apparently I'm some sort of crazy bad a@@ for running it- since I'm a girl not on juice running the crazy Russian power lifting program. It amuses me. I don't think it's that awful- but I mean- I'm not saying it's EASY either LOL
It's basically just a form of block periodization. So, on the last page of the spreadsheet it shows all of the stats from the different programs outlined. Start with one that has a super-high volume and lower 1RM percentages, then follow up with one that has moderate volume (in relation to the first block. It will still probably have tons of volume) and slightly higher 1RM percentages and then finish with one of the peaking programs which will have low volume and higher percentages. I wrote a blog about it while I was running it which you can find here:
http://thepursuitofstrength.blogspot.com/2011/11/sheiko-training.html0 -
yes. I lift 7 days on, 1 off. And this is on the recommendation of a well known top bodybuilding coach. it works for both of us. Just intelligently design a program that allows muscles to recover. Optimize nutrition around your workouts. Don't do it under a severe caloric deficit.
Depends on one's goals. If she's a BB'r then it could probably work but if she's just looking for GPP then maybe not ideal and a BB split isn't ideal for GPP. Now if you're talking powerlifting or olympic lifting there are ways to lift 7 days a week but it's rough both physically and mentally, have to have your balls strapped on tight for it.0 -
yes. I lift 7 days on, 1 off. And this is on the recommendation of a well known top bodybuilding coach. it works for both of us. Just intelligently design a program that allows muscles to recover. Optimize nutrition around your workouts. Don't do it under a severe caloric deficit.
body building and power lifting/oly lifting run on completely different programs/purposes.
just to be clear- a 7 day a week program for strength gains- as Sam said- is going to be... well. yeah- strap your balls on tight that's for sure.
I ran one of of the Sheiko programs which had 4 days and that was more than enough for me. Holy crap (most of them are only 3)
it's just a completely different ball of wax.0 -
working with my strength coach, I couldn't imagine going 5, 6, or 7 days a week. 4 days is painful, and has me walking like a retiree... and I only work with him 2 hours a week. The other sessions are all on me.
wow.0 -
working with my strength coach, I couldn't imagine going 5, 6, or 7 days a week. 4 days is painful, and has me walking like a retiree... and I only work with him 2 hours a week. The other sessions are all on me.
wow.
it's just two different worlds.
There is a girl at my gym who is trying to be a body building power lifter- and I'm like- you do realize those things are at odds with each other right?? She goes through stages of throwing bodybuilding high rep range lifting on her days "off" between heavy lifts. It's hysterical- she is a mess.
pick a goal- make a path- do the things.
When you get to the goal- then perhaps you can chose another goal- then pursue that path.0 -
working with my strength coach, I couldn't imagine going 5, 6, or 7 days a week. 4 days is painful, and has me walking like a retiree... and I only work with him 2 hours a week. The other sessions are all on me.
wow.
it's just two different worlds.
There is a girl at my gym who is trying to be a body building power lifter- and I'm like- you do realize those things are at odds with each other right?? She goes through stages of throwing bodybuilding high rep range lifting on her days "off" between heavy lifts. It's hysterical- she is a mess.
pick a goal- make a path- do the things.
When you get to the goal- then perhaps you can chose another goal- then pursue that path.
LOL she wants to look strong and be strong. I cannot hate. People falsely think I look strong but I am weak as hell.0 -
Depends. The training center I sometimes go to for oly down in the next town over is run by two former Olympians/national champs and those two coaches put out a lot of USA-W national team members. They coach their more seasoned athletes to squat every day and say 9 sessions per week of squatting (!!!!) are optimal to make it to national level performance. Is that you? Not yet at least. So, no it might not be appropriate for everyone but it is appropriate for some.0
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Depends. The training center I sometimes go to for oly down in the next town over is run by two former Olympians/national champs and those two coaches put out a lot of USA-W national team members. They coach their more seasoned athletes to squat every day and says 9 sessions per week of squatting (!!!!) are optimal to make it to national level performance. Is that you? Not yet at least. So, no it might not be appropriate for everyone but it is appropriate for some.
My quads just tighten up. 9 sessions a week.0 -
yopeeps - quit arguing.
It takes a lot of gains to hit 250# lbm, and those muscle gains are going to come with a lot of iron moving gains. C'mon, you know that.
Who's arguing I asked a question of how someone bench press once a week and can continue to grow in gains. My question was not answer and was answer by well I am this big and it work so listen to me.
It's a different type of load periodization. In this case, if you're lifting the lift once a week, you'll probably spend a week doing mid reps, then heavy, then light, then mid, then heavy, and cycle that.
Light being 50-70%, mid being 70-80%, heavy being 80-105%.
Aha! This is what I've been doing following NROL. I promised myself I would complete the entire program before I tried anything else. You'd think 2 reps of 25 anything would be easy - but it ain't!
Want to talk easy? I had a crap work out today, but closed it out with 3 sets of 100 leg extensions at 70#. That was(n't) easy. Anyone can do it.
youch! How ya walkin' today?0
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