THESE DAMN THIGHS, TIPS?

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  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    I agree. I think most of us agree that no, you cannot spot reduce, and yes, the only way to lose fat, no matter the location, is through a calorie deficit.

    I just disagree with the notion that ladies with large thighs avoid leg exercises. And I question why anyone would chose simply smaller thighs over prettier slightly larger thighs. But whatever. I guess if that's what you (or the OP) want, that's what you want.
  • ukaryote
    ukaryote Posts: 874 Member
    Just a tiny bit photo-shopped, ya think?
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  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    OK, but let's stick to the basics here. She wants thinner thighs. She doesn't say she wants "more shapely thighs" or "more toned thighs". She wants SMALLER thighs.

    So the answer to her asked question is: diet and cardio to burn fat. That's it. Let's please stop perpetuating the "spot-reducing" myth, which is perpetuated by the diet industy and is completely false.


    We've stopped telling people that they can get ripped abs by doing crunches if they have significant bodyfat, right? We wouldn't tell a bro to do bench presses or chest flies to get rid of his moobs, right? You can't get rid of a double chin with jaw exercises, right? The primary solution is diet.
    No one is perpetuating a spot reduction myth. If you look at my reply and many others, they all said, "You cannot spot reduce fat". So no one is perpetuating a myth. Women who want abs should still exercise their abs. Crunches will not burn the fat exercising the muscle will create a more aesthetic look once the fat is lost. Same with the bro with moobs, bench press won't get rid of his chest fat, but he should certainly still bench press! Retaining muscle in the area will make the chest look better once the fat is lost. Anyone who is losing fat, who also cares about aesthetics, should do some strength training to maintain muscle in your trouble areas, as well as your other areas.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member

    We've stopped telling people that they can get ripped abs by doing crunches if they have significant bodyfat, right? We wouldn't tell a bro to do bench presses or chest flies to get rid of his moobs, right? You can't get rid of a double chin with jaw exercises, right? The primary solution is diet.

    Everyone has told her she needs a calorie deficit to lose fat. They just included that strength training will help retain muscle...which results in better looking legs. You won't gain muscle in a deficit, so they won't get "bulky".
  • logicalinks
    logicalinks Posts: 89 Member
    Imagine a world without mirrors and without unrealistic images of model-thin women pervading the media. Try not to measure yourself against these.

    If you're healthy, can exercise without pain or chafing, fit well in your clothes, etc. try not to fret too much over what one part of your body looks like... especially in comparison to what other people look like. Overall fitness and health should be the ultimate goal for our bodies.

    Good luck to you!
  • jennifurballs
    jennifurballs Posts: 247 Member
    So lets say a woman with big thighs avoids thigh exercises while losing weight? Her thighs are a mixture of fat and muscle. She loses both fat and muscle. She gets to a healthy body fat percentage of 25%. That means she still has fat. Where is this fat? Probably on her legs. She's probably lost both fat and muscle from her legs but the end result might be slightly smaller, but still fatty legs. Legs that still jiggle when she walks and wears shorts, that squish out when sitting in shorts.

    Lets say women with big thighs DOES her thigh exercises while losing weight. She loses more fat than muscle. Lets say she hits the same goal weight but this time she's 20% body fat because she's retained muscle. She's still storing fat on her legs because that's where her body dictates she store fat. Her legs might even be the same size as before but now they are stronger, more shapely, firm. Not so much jiggle when she walks, they still look good when sitting in a chair in shorts. There's lines down the side of her thighs, and definition above the knee and in the calf. They look awesome in heels.

    I've been both women. I prefer the 2nd look.

    This^^^
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    Heavier squats
  • kaseyr1505
    kaseyr1505 Posts: 624 Member
    You lose fat by eating a deficit, you get leaner by lifting heavy.

    You also have to accept your body type before you'll ever be fully happy with yourself.

    You cannot spot reduce.
  • ew_david
    ew_david Posts: 3,473 Member
    Guys. I lift heavy weights. And I did years of biking and hiking. I have MASSIVE THIGHS and I don't want them. The OP is a woman who wants to be slim, not a guy who wants to look muscley. Women do not have the same issues as men, because women naturally have big legs and small upper bodies. Men are the opposite. That's where the bro "never skip leg day" thing comes from. For women, it really needs to be "never skip shoulders day".

    Lifting is great. Running is great. Exercising is great. For a problem area, you have to fat-reduce all over, not spot-reduce by working the area you want to improve. We all agree on this. So why are we telling her to do squats and lunges when AT BEST it will do nothing to reduce her thighs, and AT WORST it will bulk them up like mine.

    I love being strong. I can quad-press almost 500 lbs (if my knees don't give out!). That is a lot for a 5'5" woman. It's not because I did a ton of leg training or because I "tried" to builk up. It's from years of biking, first as transport and then in a misguided attempt to lose weight. You see women here at size 0 and 2. I'd love to be size 2. But even if I were scary-skinny (for me) like 15% bf, I'd never be less than size 8 or maybe 10 because of my muscle build. Ugh.

    How does someone look muscular in a calorie deficit? Don't worry I got time to wait. Your second paragraph was good until (second bold). Once again how do you build muscle mass in a calorie deficit? Is there a secret you know that everyone else does not. Is it protein intake? Please tell me I want to get shredded and make muscle mass gains.

    Someone can't look muscular because they're in a calorie deficit? Lolz

    *the more you know gif*
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    Guys. I lift heavy weights. And I did years of biking and hiking. I have MASSIVE THIGHS and I don't want them. The OP is a woman who wants to be slim, not a guy who wants to look muscley. Women do not have the same issues as men, because women naturally have big legs and small upper bodies. Men are the opposite. That's where the bro "never skip leg day" thing comes from. For women, it really needs to be "never skip shoulders day".

    Lifting is great. Running is great. Exercising is great. For a problem area, you have to fat-reduce all over, not spot-reduce by working the area you want to improve. We all agree on this. So why are we telling her to do squats and lunges when AT BEST it will do nothing to reduce her thighs, and AT WORST it will bulk them up like mine.

    I love being strong. I can quad-press almost 500 lbs (if my knees don't give out!). That is a lot for a 5'5" woman. It's not because I did a ton of leg training or because I "tried" to builk up. It's from years of biking, first as transport and then in a misguided attempt to lose weight. You see women here at size 0 and 2. I'd love to be size 2. But even if I were scary-skinny (for me) like 15% bf, I'd never be less than size 8 or maybe 10 because of my muscle build. Ugh.

    How does someone look muscular in a calorie deficit? Don't worry I got time to wait. Your second paragraph was good until (second bold). Once again how do you build muscle mass in a calorie deficit? Is there a secret you know that everyone else does not. Is it protein intake? Please tell me I want to get shredded and make muscle mass gains.

    Someone can't look muscular because they're in a calorie deficit? Lolz

    *the more you know gif*

    I know you know. I was waiting for the other lady who claims to low weight high rep myth crap that all ladies need to lift like that to get smaller.
  • ew_david
    ew_david Posts: 3,473 Member
    Guys. I lift heavy weights. And I did years of biking and hiking. I have MASSIVE THIGHS and I don't want them. The OP is a woman who wants to be slim, not a guy who wants to look muscley. Women do not have the same issues as men, because women naturally have big legs and small upper bodies. Men are the opposite. That's where the bro "never skip leg day" thing comes from. For women, it really needs to be "never skip shoulders day".

    Lifting is great. Running is great. Exercising is great. For a problem area, you have to fat-reduce all over, not spot-reduce by working the area you want to improve. We all agree on this. So why are we telling her to do squats and lunges when AT BEST it will do nothing to reduce her thighs, and AT WORST it will bulk them up like mine.

    I love being strong. I can quad-press almost 500 lbs (if my knees don't give out!). That is a lot for a 5'5" woman. It's not because I did a ton of leg training or because I "tried" to builk up. It's from years of biking, first as transport and then in a misguided attempt to lose weight. You see women here at size 0 and 2. I'd love to be size 2. But even if I were scary-skinny (for me) like 15% bf, I'd never be less than size 8 or maybe 10 because of my muscle build. Ugh.

    Ummm, I lost almost 30 pounds and reduced my thighs significantly by squatting/deadlifting/lunging and dieting. But okay.
  • Mischievous_Rascal
    Mischievous_Rascal Posts: 1,791 Member
    I have huge thighs but I did lose 4 inches in the thigh/hip area from the "diet"/calorie deficit. Squats and deadlifts have improved their appearance. Still big though!

    Mine are the same. They're no longer big and fat, just big and strong. I love them!!
  • silentKayak
    silentKayak Posts: 658 Member
    "Everyone" has not said calorie deficit. They are confusing the message by focusing on leg exercise when the OP clearly stated her goal is "smaller thighs". They're confusing their own goals with hers.

    As to the question of how I got bulky legs while trying to reduce fat all over ... I never said I was in a calorie deficit, because this is the first time I've done calorie counting. At the time "calorie counting" took a lot of effort, because it meant a notebook, a little book to look up calorie counts, and a pocket calculator. And there was no way to measure calories burned (no fitbits, no computers on exercise machines, no Google). In the 80s you would have had to be really obsessive about your weight to even try that.

    What happened is ... I wanted to lose weight, but also more generally "get in shape", because at the time I didn't have a serious weight problem, though I thought I could stand to lose maybe 20 lbs. Choices were diet or exercise, or some combination of the two. I hate being hungry, and as I said, I wanted to be "in shape" and not just thin. So I got a gym membership. The trainer said "Strength training and cardio". So I did. I biked, I ran, I did the weights. And I cut out some bad foods like soda and sweets. But of course the workouts were making me hungry, so I ate more (mostly heathy food, though I understand now that I was eating more than I was burning). And I didn't lose weight, though I did get a lot stronger and my upper body improved. My trainer said, "Increase the cardio". So I did. And I got hungrier. And I ate more. And put on more muscle.

    I lived in a town with a lot of hills, and didn't get a car til my mid-twenties. So that meant HARD biking up hills, carrying a loaded backpack.

    I did a ton of skiing, and you guys know what the food is like in a ski lodge - and you're pretty hungry after burning like 1500 calories on the slopes. A burger and fries later, and you've eaten more than you burned.

    I don't think this is an unusual situation for someone who's trying to lose through "intuitive eating" while working out hard. I estimate that my calorie intake was less than 100/day over maintenance. But over 25 years of working out while eating a very slight caloric excess, I have packed literally pounds of basically unwanted muscle onto my legs (the shoulders and biceps, I'm happy to keep!)

    I got mixed messsages. This was a looooong time ago (20 years ago, pre-internet), so I really didn't have the information I needed. Really the trainer should have sent me home from the gym and said "go on a diet and take a walk every day" (but of course, his job is to sell gym memberships, so it's not his fault!) Then I wouldn't be where I am today. I should have gotten information about a body-builder type "cutting" cycle, which is basically what I'm on now until I'm down to a preferred weight.

    So yes, it is absolutely possible for people to "accidentally" bulk up with unwanted muscle. I have an equally hard time believing that there are people who have trouble putting on or keeping on weight, but apparently we aren't all the same! Imagine that!

    And to answer the question of "why is it reasonable for women to want to have less muscle so they can look thinner": I give you possibly the saddest story in pro sports: why the strongest woman in America can't pay her bills. Hint: she's not attractive enough for people to buy products she endorses. Look at her pictures. She looks fat. Well, she is fat. She has high bodyfat, but her muscle mass makes her look even fatter, with all the negative stereotypes that come with it.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/the-strongest-woman-in-america-lives-in-poverty#1tko2dk

    My pet peeve is when people substitute their own goals for someone else's. OP's stated goal is "smaller". She didn't say "I want athletic, toned legs that you guys will find attractive".

    So the answer to OP is: eat fewer, burn more, or some combination of the above /thread
  • You can't lose fat from your thighs by exercising your thighs. All that will do is build muscle. You're making the problem worse by building muscle in the areas you want to have smaller.

    It's counterintuitive, but for slimmer thighs, stay away from exercises that will bulk you up there. Squats and lunges are bad. Biking is bad, especially uphill or with high resistance on the machine. Quad press is bad. These are the exercises that men do when they're trying to bulk up their legs so they won't look like Foghorn Leghorn. That's the opposite of what you want. If you must do these things in the gym, go for light weights and lots of reps.

    What's good - dieting, of course. Walking and gentle running for overall fat burn. Upper body strength training / heavy lifting to give you bigger shoulders, back and chest to balance your body out. Rowing, swimming, dancing, or any other cardio exercise you can think of that will burn fat without bulking your legs.

    Avoid this:

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  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    "Everyone" has not said calorie deficit. They are confusing the message by focusing on leg exercise when the OP clearly stated her goal is "smaller thighs". They're confusing their own goals with hers.

    As to the question of how I got bulky legs while trying to reduce fat all over ... I never said I was in a calorie deficit, because this is the first time I've done calorie counting. At the time "calorie counting" took a lot of effort, because it meant a notebook, a little book to look up calorie counts, and a pocket calculator. And there was no way to measure calories burned (no fitbits, no computers on exercise machines, no Google). In the 80s you would have had to be really obsessive about your weight to even try that.

    What happened is ... I wanted to lose weight, but also more generally "get in shape", because at the time I didn't have a serious weight problem, though I thought I could stand to lose maybe 20 lbs. Choices were diet or exercise, or some combination of the two. I hate being hungry, and as I said, I wanted to be "in shape" and not just thin. So I got a gym membership. The trainer said "Strength training and cardio". So I did. I biked, I ran, I did the weights. And I cut out some bad foods like soda and sweets. But of course the workouts were making me hungry, so I ate more (mostly heathy food, though I understand now that I was eating more than I was burning). And I didn't lose weight, though I did get a lot stronger and my upper body improved. My trainer said, "Increase the cardio". So I did. And I got hungrier. And I ate more. And put on more muscle.

    I lived in a town with a lot of hills, and didn't get a car til my mid-twenties. So that meant HARD biking up hills, carrying a loaded backpack.

    I did a ton of skiing, and you guys know what the food is like in a ski lodge - and you're pretty hungry after burning like 1500 calories on the slopes. A burger and fries later, and you've eaten more than you burned.

    I don't think this is an unusual situation for someone who's trying to lose through "intuitive eating" while working out hard. I estimate that my calorie intake was less than 100/day over maintenance. But over 25 years of working out while eating a very slight caloric excess, I have packed literally pounds of basically unwanted muscle onto my legs (the shoulders and biceps, I'm happy to keep!)

    I got mixed messsages. This was a looooong time ago (20 years ago, pre-internet), so I really didn't have the information I needed. Really the trainer should have sent me home from the gym and said "go on a diet and take a walk every day" (but of course, his job is to sell gym memberships, so it's not his fault!) Then I wouldn't be where I am today. I should have gotten information about a body-builder type "cutting" cycle, which is basically what I'm on now until I'm down to a preferred weight.

    So yes, it is absolutely possible for people to "accidentally" bulk up with unwanted muscle. I have an equally hard time believing that there are people who have trouble putting on or keeping on weight, but apparently we aren't all the same! Imagine that!

    And to answer the question of "why is it reasonable for women to want to have less muscle so they can look thinner": I give you possibly the saddest story in pro sports: why the strongest woman in America can't pay her bills. Hint: she's not attractive enough for people to buy products she endorses. Look at her pictures. She looks fat. Well, she is fat. She has high bodyfat, but her muscle mass makes her look even fatter, with all the negative stereotypes that come with it.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/the-strongest-woman-in-america-lives-in-poverty#1tko2dk

    My pet peeve is when people substitute their own goals for someone else's. OP's stated goal is "smaller". She didn't say "I want athletic, toned legs that you guys will find attractive".

    So the answer to OP is: eat fewer, burn more, or some combination of the above /thread
    If she eats in a deficit while she lifts her thighs will still get smaller. Your entire point made irrelevant in one sentence...
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    "Everyone" has not said calorie deficit. They are confusing the message by focusing on leg exercise when the OP clearly stated her goal is "smaller thighs". They're confusing their own goals with hers.

    As to the question of how I got bulky legs while trying to reduce fat all over ... I never said I was in a calorie deficit, because this is the first time I've done calorie counting. At the time "calorie counting" took a lot of effort, because it meant a notebook, a little book to look up calorie counts, and a pocket calculator. And there was no way to measure calories burned (no fitbits, no computers on exercise machines, no Google). In the 80s you would have had to be really obsessive about your weight to even try that.

    What happened is ... I wanted to lose weight, but also more generally "get in shape", because at the time I didn't have a serious weight problem, though I thought I could stand to lose maybe 20 lbs. Choices were diet or exercise, or some combination of the two. I hate being hungry, and as I said, I wanted to be "in shape" and not just thin. So I got a gym membership. The trainer said "Strength training and cardio". So I did. I biked, I ran, I did the weights. And I cut out some bad foods like soda and sweets. But of course the workouts were making me hungry, so I ate more (mostly heathy food, though I understand now that I was eating more than I was burning). And I didn't lose weight, though I did get a lot stronger and my upper body improved. My trainer said, "Increase the cardio". So I did. And I got hungrier. And I ate more. And put on more muscle.

    I lived in a town with a lot of hills, and didn't get a car til my mid-twenties. So that meant HARD biking up hills, carrying a loaded backpack.

    I did a ton of skiing, and you guys know what the food is like in a ski lodge - and you're pretty hungry after burning like 1500 calories on the slopes. A burger and fries later, and you've eaten more than you burned.

    I don't think this is an unusual situation for someone who's trying to lose through "intuitive eating" while working out hard. I estimate that my calorie intake was less than 100/day over maintenance. But over 25 years of working out while eating a very slight caloric excess, I have packed literally pounds of basically unwanted muscle onto my legs (the shoulders and biceps, I'm happy to keep!)

    I got mixed messsages. This was a looooong time ago (20 years ago, pre-internet), so I really didn't have the information I needed. Really the trainer should have sent me home from the gym and said "go on a diet and take a walk every day" (but of course, his job is to sell gym memberships, so it's not his fault!) Then I wouldn't be where I am today. I should have gotten information about a body-builder type "cutting" cycle, which is basically what I'm on now until I'm down to a preferred weight.

    So yes, it is absolutely possible for people to "accidentally" bulk up with unwanted muscle. I have an equally hard time believing that there are people who have trouble putting on or keeping on weight, but apparently we aren't all the same! Imagine that!

    And to answer the question of "why is it reasonable for women to want to have less muscle so they can look thinner": I give you possibly the saddest story in pro sports: why the strongest woman in America can't pay her bills. Hint: she's not attractive enough for people to buy products she endorses. Look at her pictures. She looks fat. Well, she is fat. She has high bodyfat, but her muscle mass makes her look even fatter, with all the negative stereotypes that come with it.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/the-strongest-woman-in-america-lives-in-poverty#1tko2dk

    My pet peeve is when people substitute their own goals for someone else's. OP's stated goal is "smaller". She didn't say "I want athletic, toned legs that you guys will find attractive".

    So the answer to OP is: eat fewer, burn more, or some combination of the above /thread
    If she eats in a deficit while she lifts her thighs will still get smaller. Your entire point made irrelevant in one sentence...

    What did I just read? She still did not answer low weight high rep question. I think she is very lost.

    Btw you said you are always hungry. You put on muscle mass eating too much food. That sums up your entire story. Props to you though on your hard workouts.
  • Tab122377
    Tab122377 Posts: 81 Member
    Give time it will adjust. you just can't see it right now.
  • ew_david
    ew_david Posts: 3,473 Member
    "Everyone" has not said calorie deficit. They are confusing the message by focusing on leg exercise when the OP clearly stated her goal is "smaller thighs". They're confusing their own goals with hers.

    As to the question of how I got bulky legs while trying to reduce fat all over ... I never said I was in a calorie deficit, because this is the first time I've done calorie counting. At the time "calorie counting" took a lot of effort, because it meant a notebook, a little book to look up calorie counts, and a pocket calculator. And there was no way to measure calories burned (no fitbits, no computers on exercise machines, no Google). In the 80s you would have had to be really obsessive about your weight to even try that.

    What happened is ... I wanted to lose weight, but also more generally "get in shape", because at the time I didn't have a serious weight problem, though I thought I could stand to lose maybe 20 lbs. Choices were diet or exercise, or some combination of the two. I hate being hungry, and as I said, I wanted to be "in shape" and not just thin. So I got a gym membership. The trainer said "Strength training and cardio". So I did. I biked, I ran, I did the weights. And I cut out some bad foods like soda and sweets. But of course the workouts were making me hungry, so I ate more (mostly heathy food, though I understand now that I was eating more than I was burning). And I didn't lose weight, though I did get a lot stronger and my upper body improved. My trainer said, "Increase the cardio". So I did. And I got hungrier. And I ate more. And put on more muscle.

    I lived in a town with a lot of hills, and didn't get a car til my mid-twenties. So that meant HARD biking up hills, carrying a loaded backpack.

    I did a ton of skiing, and you guys know what the food is like in a ski lodge - and you're pretty hungry after burning like 1500 calories on the slopes. A burger and fries later, and you've eaten more than you burned.

    I don't think this is an unusual situation for someone who's trying to lose through "intuitive eating" while working out hard. I estimate that my calorie intake was less than 100/day over maintenance. But over 25 years of working out while eating a very slight caloric excess, I have packed literally pounds of basically unwanted muscle onto my legs (the shoulders and biceps, I'm happy to keep!)

    I got mixed messsages. This was a looooong time ago (20 years ago, pre-internet), so I really didn't have the information I needed. Really the trainer should have sent me home from the gym and said "go on a diet and take a walk every day" (but of course, his job is to sell gym memberships, so it's not his fault!) Then I wouldn't be where I am today. I should have gotten information about a body-builder type "cutting" cycle, which is basically what I'm on now until I'm down to a preferred weight.

    So yes, it is absolutely possible for people to "accidentally" bulk up with unwanted muscle. I have an equally hard time believing that there are people who have trouble putting on or keeping on weight, but apparently we aren't all the same! Imagine that!

    And to answer the question of "why is it reasonable for women to want to have less muscle so they can look thinner": I give you possibly the saddest story in pro sports: why the strongest woman in America can't pay her bills. Hint: she's not attractive enough for people to buy products she endorses. Look at her pictures. She looks fat. Well, she is fat. She has high bodyfat, but her muscle mass makes her look even fatter, with all the negative stereotypes that come with it.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/the-strongest-woman-in-america-lives-in-poverty#1tko2dk

    My pet peeve is when people substitute their own goals for someone else's. OP's stated goal is "smaller". She didn't say "I want athletic, toned legs that you guys will find attractive".

    So the answer to OP is: eat fewer, burn more, or some combination of the above /thread

    Lol.

    Deficit + lifting = smaller thighs. Sorry you didn't know that in the 80s.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    God, I wish there was a way to deduct fat from just one spot.
    There is, but it requires surgery.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
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    OK, I'll rephrase.

    I wish there was a way I could deduct weight from one spot on my own.

    It would, for sure, be my thighs.
  • veggieluvr45
    veggieluvr45 Posts: 27 Member
    The women in my family all have the body shape of a small waist and large thighs. No matter how thin I get (and I have been Pretty Darn Thin at points in my life) they are always disproportionately large. I have never been happy.

    My beautiful, extremely fit daughter has the exact same shape but she LOVES her thighs. She calls them her "leg guns" since she is big into Cross Fit, lifting, running and general fitness.

    I say embrace your shape, I wish I had learned that a long time ago!
  • silentKayak
    silentKayak Posts: 658 Member
    Did you guys see OP's SW?

    Muscle tone is not the issue, and she is overly focused on exercise already. To lose fat, she needs to diet.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    Did you guys see OP's SW?

    Muscle tone is not the issue, and she is overly focused on exercise already. To lose fat, she needs to diet.

    Is this your way of taking back your first post in this thread?
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    You can't lose fat from your thighs by exercising your thighs. All that will do is build muscle. You're making the problem worse by building muscle in the areas you want to have smaller.
    Okay so I've been in a deficit for 5 months while lifting, heavy lifting for 4 of those months, still in that deficit. You're trying to tell me that the inches I've lost off said HUGE thighs is muscle??? WOMEN in general have an extremely hard time gaining muscle, as a matter of fact I think its something like 4 pounds a year (don't quote me because I have to go look for that article), let ALONE gaining muscle in a deficit!
    OP eat in a deficit, lift heavy weights, EVERYWHERE. As aforementioned by other posters, you can't spot reduce.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    Did you guys see OP's SW?

    Muscle tone is not the issue, and she is overly focused on exercise already. To lose fat, she needs to diet.
    You are speaking as though dieting and weight lifting are somehow mutually exclusive. Again, most of us are agreeing that a caloric deficit is needed to reduce fat, in fact I've not seen a single person say otherwise. That still doesn't mean that OP also shouldn't do strength training.
  • threnjen
    threnjen Posts: 687 Member
    I have mega thunder thighs, as do all women in my family. I've been eating at a deficit and lifting and they are just getting smaller and smaller. Lifting is the bomb.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    OK, but let's stick to the basics here. She wants thinner thighs. She doesn't say she wants "more shapely thighs" or "more toned thighs". She wants SMALLER thighs.

    So the answer to her asked question is: diet and cardio to burn fat. That's it. Let's please stop perpetuating the "spot-reducing" myth, which is perpetuated by the diet industy and is completely false.

    6990342-M.jpg

    We've stopped telling people that they can get ripped abs by doing crunches if they have significant bodyfat, right? We wouldn't tell a bro to do bench presses or chest flies to get rid of his moobs, right? You can't get rid of a double chin with jaw exercises, right? The primary solution is diet.


    Cardio doesn't burn fat. It burns calories. If the OP is in a surplus and doing cardio, she will still gain new fat.


    Lets look at this in general. The OP has 50 lbs to lose. She could do absolutely no exercise and her thighs will still get smaller. But again, weight training will only help maintain muscle. And if the majority of your lose is fat, and not muscle, your body fat % will lower faster.


    Also, how big are your thighs? You continue to say they are huge, but you haven't defined their actual size.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    "Everyone" has not said calorie deficit. They are confusing the message by focusing on leg exercise when the OP clearly stated her goal is "smaller thighs". They're confusing their own goals with hers.

    As to the question of how I got bulky legs while trying to reduce fat all over ... I never said I was in a calorie deficit, because this is the first time I've done calorie counting. At the time "calorie counting" took a lot of effort, because it meant a notebook, a little book to look up calorie counts, and a pocket calculator. And there was no way to measure calories burned (no fitbits, no computers on exercise machines, no Google). In the 80s you would have had to be really obsessive about your weight to even try that.

    What happened is ... I wanted to lose weight, but also more generally "get in shape", because at the time I didn't have a serious weight problem, though I thought I could stand to lose maybe 20 lbs. Choices were diet or exercise, or some combination of the two. I hate being hungry, and as I said, I wanted to be "in shape" and not just thin. So I got a gym membership. The trainer said "Strength training and cardio". So I did. I biked, I ran, I did the weights. And I cut out some bad foods like soda and sweets. But of course the workouts were making me hungry, so I ate more (mostly heathy food, though I understand now that I was eating more than I was burning). And I didn't lose weight, though I did get a lot stronger and my upper body improved. My trainer said, "Increase the cardio". So I did. And I got hungrier. And I ate more. And put on more muscle.

    I lived in a town with a lot of hills, and didn't get a car til my mid-twenties. So that meant HARD biking up hills, carrying a loaded backpack.

    I did a ton of skiing, and you guys know what the food is like in a ski lodge - and you're pretty hungry after burning like 1500 calories on the slopes. A burger and fries later, and you've eaten more than you burned.

    I don't think this is an unusual situation for someone who's trying to lose through "intuitive eating" while working out hard. I estimate that my calorie intake was less than 100/day over maintenance. But over 25 years of working out while eating a very slight caloric excess, I have packed literally pounds of basically unwanted muscle onto my legs (the shoulders and biceps, I'm happy to keep!)

    I got mixed messsages. This was a looooong time ago (20 years ago, pre-internet), so I really didn't have the information I needed. Really the trainer should have sent me home from the gym and said "go on a diet and take a walk every day" (but of course, his job is to sell gym memberships, so it's not his fault!) Then I wouldn't be where I am today. I should have gotten information about a body-builder type "cutting" cycle, which is basically what I'm on now until I'm down to a preferred weight.

    So yes, it is absolutely possible for people to "accidentally" bulk up with unwanted muscle. I have an equally hard time believing that there are people who have trouble putting on or keeping on weight, but apparently we aren't all the same! Imagine that!

    And to answer the question of "why is it reasonable for women to want to have less muscle so they can look thinner": I give you possibly the saddest story in pro sports: why the strongest woman in America can't pay her bills. Hint: she's not attractive enough for people to buy products she endorses. Look at her pictures. She looks fat. Well, she is fat. She has high bodyfat, but her muscle mass makes her look even fatter, with all the negative stereotypes that come with it.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/the-strongest-woman-in-america-lives-in-poverty#1tko2dk

    My pet peeve is when people substitute their own goals for someone else's. OP's stated goal is "smaller". She didn't say "I want athletic, toned legs that you guys will find attractive".

    So the answer to OP is: eat fewer, burn more, or some combination of the above /thread

    You have to understand, when you eat in a surplus, you may gain some muscle, you also gain fat. In fact, if a woman can limit their fat gains to 50% then, it's a solid plan. Now, if you cycled between a cut and a bulk, you would have gotten more lean like the below:


    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/


    Also, regarding the strongest women, at some point, there are diminishing gains and the only way to get stronger is by adding more mass to be able to push the weight. In many cases, that might mean gaining fat. Lets face it, what are the odds of an 150 lb women being able to lift 586 lbs? Even so, her training routine and her requirements are vastly different than the OP's so it wouldn't be a fair comparison to the OP, who will be in a deficit.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    The "Thin Thighs in 30 Days" book is $4.04 (free shipping) on eBay. I may have to get it.

    I'd like to have thin thighs in 30 days. :)
  • Veryme
    Veryme Posts: 19 Member
    Try ballet like moves with your legs. 25 front ( pointy feet) each, 25 side and 25 back/ day. When too tied Make a day off, and start all over. I do it rather 2-3 times a week and feel better: tights become tighter:))
  • LilyOfTheValley008
    LilyOfTheValley008 Posts: 95 Member
    You can't lose fat from your thighs by exercising your thighs. All that will do is build muscle. You're making the problem worse by building muscle in the areas you want to have smaller.

    It's counterintuitive, but for slimmer thighs, stay away from exercises that will bulk you up there. Squats and lunges are bad. Biking is bad, especially uphill or with high resistance on the machine. Quad press is bad. These are the exercises that men do when they're trying to bulk up their legs so they won't look like Foghorn Leghorn. That's the opposite of what you want. If you must do these things in the gym, go for light weights and lots of reps.

    What's good - dieting, of course. Walking and gentle running for overall fat burn. Upper body strength training / heavy lifting to give you bigger shoulders, back and chest to balance your body out. Rowing, swimming, dancing, or any other cardio exercise you can think of that will burn fat without bulking your legs.

    Avoid this:

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    That's funny because my main form of cardio is cycling and my thighs are toned and slimmer than ever :)