Question for petite women dieters

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  • MoonIite
    MoonIite Posts: 341 Member
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    Try eating back half of your exercise calories. I only eat mine if my cal deficit exceeds 500. I don't want to lose more than 1 lb a week, so I keep my deficit between the 400-500 range.

    http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

    My sedentary burn is 1487. I roughly burn 400 calories in a 40 minute workout. My total calorie output (if I worked out that day) would become 1887 (1487 + 400). If I want to create a 500 cal deficit, I would subtract 500 from my calorie output. This would give me 1387 cals(my calorie intake for the day).
  • bluegirl10
    bluegirl10 Posts: 695 Member
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    I'm 5'2 and trying to lose at least 20 pounds and am having a hard time hitting 1200 calories too. Until now I thought I was totally doing something wrong if I can't even hit 1200 calories, but it's nice to know I'm not... Petite women don't NEED to have 1200 calories... It just all depends on the individual!...thanks so much for the insight! :)
  • srp2011
    srp2011 Posts: 1,829 Member
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    I'm 5'0" and I aim for around 1100 cals/day. On a heavy exercise day, I'll eat a little more, but I try to get in a 500 cal/day deficit between food and exercise combined. It's important to understand that there is no scientific data backing 1200 as the magic number where starvation mode sets in. Doctors and nutritionists need some sort of guidelines, so a group of experts got together and came up with their best estimate of a number that they though would be reasonable for most women. Keep in mind the average woman is around 5'4 or 5'5. By the same token, 1200 is too low for some of our extra-tall sisters. I get so disgusted when I see some folks on MFP throw around the number as if it were some sort of holy gospel. In fact, I saw someone tell another MFPer they were stupid for trying to reset their calorie below 1200. They knew nothing about the original poster, and whether she was short, or had a medical issue or what. Ignorance is not bliss.

    BTW, is anyone else frustrated by how few calories we burn when we exercise? I see taller/bigger folks posting these incredible burns (like 1000 or above) for relatively short workouts - with a real high-intensity workout I'm lucky to burn 4-500 in an hour, and that is really sweating...
  • jenkaye
    jenkaye Posts: 1
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    Hey all.

    I'm 5'2 and agree 1200 is great but perhaps for 2 weeks only to kick start a diet, or if you have holiday weight to loose. I go to Rosemary Conley classes, and they have great menus you can follow in their magazines. The suggest 1200 caleries for first 2 weeks, then 1500 after that. They recommend after holiday eating 1000 for first 3 days after hols (a bit like weightwatchers wendy plan) then 1200 for 2 weeks, and 1500 for rest of time. Under eating causes your body to go into starvation mode and as your body does not know where the next food is going to come from it clings onto body fat as a reserve. I guess you all know your own bodies, but perhaps eating a variety of foods also helps as your body can get used to the same foods all the time, and I base my daily habits on 200cal for breakfast, 300 for lunch, 400 for dinner, and two 50 cal snacks, and 3/4 pint a milk/yoghurt a day to help with osteoporosis (I don't have it but is a risk in women so is important we look after our bones). If doing 1500 a day I then add 100 cal dessert/100 cal treat and 100cal of alcohol (I tend to have the extra dessert/snack instead). I don't eat anything above 5% fat per 100g of food, and try to keep sugar out as sugar makes your sugar levels rise and that's why you always reach for more as the sugar levels then sink back down making you reach for more cake/choc etc...

    Have lost 4 stone with Rosemary Conley and Fitness Pal (but been a bit lapse recently and have out 7ib on over 6 months)..

    Good luck all.

    Jen x
  • ljbhill
    ljbhill Posts: 276 Member
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    I'm 5 foot 2 and I find that I don't lose when I am under calories. In fact in the past I have even gained! I find my best weight loss occurs when I am around the 1200-1300 mark. I did find that cutting carbs from my dinner meals 5 times a week, worked wonders :smile:
  • joaniegray
    joaniegray Posts: 88 Member
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    Oh how well I know this! Being short and just doing 1200 calories for me seems to be maintenance = BUT - exercise - that is what I lose the weight on. I can then eat up to1500 calories if I do my walking, cycling, Qi Gong and some swimming. No exercise - no weight loss. Sigh...
  • MoonIite
    MoonIite Posts: 341 Member
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    srp2011: I can totally relate. I have to work my *kitten* off to burn 400-500 calories, and even that amount seems a bit too generous. I'd be lucky to burn more than 400 cals in a 40 minute workout. Yet my taller friend, who's 5'4", can burn up to 600 cals going at the same intensity as me :sad:
  • Sway
    Sway Posts: 100 Member
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    srp2011: I can totally relate. I have to work my *kitten* off to burn 400-500 calories, and even that amount seems a bit too generous. I'd be lucky to burn more than 400 cals in a 40 minute workout. Yet my taller friend, who's 5'4", can burn up to 600 cals going at the same intensity as me :sad:

    What exercise are you doing to burn 400 cals in 40 mins??

    Yes it really stinks that we burn so little yet work so hard...
  • MoonIite
    MoonIite Posts: 341 Member
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    Turbo Jam!

    Here's my workout log:
    *compare my calorie burn from now to before, notice any difference?*

    Mon, Jun 06 2011
    Mins Cals
    Punch, Kick, and Jam 43 400

    Tue, Jun 07 2011
    Mins Cals
    Turbo Sculpt 39 350


    Wed, Jun 08 2011
    Mins Cals
    Fat Blaster (2x) 40 400


    Thu, Jun 09 2011
    Mins Cals
    Turbo Sculpt 39 300
    20 Minute 20 100


    Fri, Jun 10 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 2 50 468

    Mon, Jun 13 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 3 50 500


    Tue, Jun 14 2011
    Mins Cals
    Turbo Sculpt 30 300
    Fat Blaster 20 100

    Thu, Jun 16 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 2 43 460

    Fri, Jun 17 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 1 43 530

    Tue, Jun 21 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party 1 43 500

    Thu, Jun 23 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 2 38 490

    Fri, Jun 24 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 3 40 440


    Sat, Jun 25 2011
    Mins Cals
    Punch, Kick, and Jam 40 414

    Sun, Jun 26 2011
    Mins Cals
    Turbo Sculpt 37 293
    20 minutes 10 99
    Fat Blaster 8 82

    Wed, Jun 29 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party 1 39 470

    Sat, Jul 02 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party 1 38 467

    Sun, Jul 03 2011
    Mins Cals
    Turbo Sculpt 37 297


    Thu, Jul 07 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 3 37 458

    Mon, Jul 11 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party 1 39 470
    Total Calories Burned 470

    Tue, Jul 12 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 3 41 300


    Fri, Jul 15 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 2 38 460


    Mon, Jul 18 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party 1 38 440


    Tue, Jul 19 2011
    Mins Cals
    Punch, Kick, and Jam 40 496


    Thu, Jul 21 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party Mix 3 40 356


    Fri, Jul 22 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party 2 36 430


    Mon, Jul 25 2011
    Mins Cals
    Cardio Party 1 38 421

    *hrm does not include bmr, so I end up subtracting it from my calorie burn*
  • srp2011
    srp2011 Posts: 1,829 Member
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    srp2011: I can totally relate. I have to work my *kitten* off to burn 400-500 calories, and even that amount seems a bit too generous. I'd be lucky to burn more than 400 cals in a 40 minute workout. Yet my taller friend, who's 5'4", can burn up to 600 cals going at the same intensity as me :sad:

    What exercise are you doing to burn 400 cals in 40 mins??

    Yes it really stinks that we burn so little yet work so hard...

    I can burn 400 or close to it in 40 min if I either swim laps or run at a10 min/mile pace... I'm going to have to try some of those Turbo-Jam-like workout DVDs... or go back to the classes at my gym, but I'm terribly uncoordinated...
  • amoffatt
    amoffatt Posts: 674 Member
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    I am 4'11 and sometimes I find myself still hungry under 1200 calories (depends on what I eat) but I have a huge issue loosing weight as well if I go over 1200, amd 1 pound looks like 50 on me...:laugh:
  • sweetsapphire85
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    If I eat my exercise calories I definitely gain, at 1200 I maintain for the most part without exercise. So I've gotten into hitting the gym almost every day recently because I have the time. I think it's funny because now since i started this diet a month ago my appetite has decreased and am full so much quicker so eating up to the 1200 MFP has given me is hard to meat. I tend to eat as clean as i can during the day and being hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) they said to eat protein more often as does more to maintain my sugar levels for a longer period of time. But it fills me up so much quicker and I don't have to urge to eat for hours after.

    I figure my body will ask for what it needs, even doing this I'm only losing 1/2 pound up to 1 pound a week which isn't that much when i'm 30 pounds over weight.

    Thank you for posting this thread, I feel so much better it's not just me!
  • audram420
    audram420 Posts: 838 Member
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    I haven't read all the replies...but when I lost 40lbs prior to having my baby I was comfortable eating 800-1000 a day with my exercise...I did eat bad on the weekends, but I believe you can find a good daily caloric intake under 1200 if your comfortable doing so! Currently, I'm still doing about 1000-1100 now because I'm always 100-200 or even more under what MFP says I should be!
  • lannashelley
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    I agree with everyone else. I would gain weight eating 1200 calories not loose it. Before I went on the diet I am on now, I tracked my calories for 3 months out of pure curiosity because my sister who was on a diet at the time was always counting hers. I was eating between 700-850 calories a day none of which were from low fat diet foods and I weighed in at around 200lbs, which is the same as I had weighed for around 7 years. Then when I was made redundant from my job in April 2011 I continued to eat the same 700-850 calories a day and I actually gained almost 20lbs.
  • maroon98
    maroon98 Posts: 121
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    I am so glad you brought this up! Ditto to what many have said here, those formulas to calculate recommended caloric intake are not geared towards petite individuals! It stinks!
  • SweetTeaBlossom
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    So, I am 5' 1" and would be happy to weigh 115, which is on the middle/higher weight end for my height..I have struggled btwn 122-127lbs..I definitely lose weight if I manage to stay at 1200 net calories (I always eat back my calories, or most)..I lost 30 lbs...Problem is I have trouble relating to those of you who say that they "can't" eat the 1200 cals because they are not hungry!! I am really hungry when I try to stick to 1200 cals..I would rather exercise more so I can eat..I have always had a healthy appetite and love food...losing 30 lbs was a struggle, but I did it..I really want to lose the last 10-15 lbs, but not sure if I can eat 1200 cals or less a day to do so...Is there any other "petite" person out there who is hungry at 1200? Any suggestions on what to eat that will fill me up? I am going to be 50 in 6 months and want to achieve this goal before then!

    I'm petite, 40 and have a big appetite as well. I always have even when I was slender. I would fail if I tried to stay at 1200 every day. It leaves me feeling weak. Some days through exercise my net ends up being 1200 and it doesn't leave me starving, but I don't do that all the time.

    I agree with exercising more so you can eat more. Also, you can try to have a more conservative weight loss goal per week (1/2 pound, 1 pound) so you can get more cals to eat there as well (on non-exercise days too). It might be slower, but you will lose the weight eventually and it's better than going hungry. This is a lifestyle change for me so I'm in no rush. I just want nice, steady progress.

    I follow the calorie calculator at:

    http://www.healthyweightforum.org/eng/calculators/calories-required/

    Playing around with it let me know my goal of wanting to lose 8 pounds a month was unrealistic for my appetite so I had to reduce the monthly goal and it's been working. I just put my mother on this with a conservative goal of 3 pounds per month (for 5 months).

    I like to eat big salads and fill it up with lots of goodies (avocado, chicken, green beans, kidney beans, raisins, light laughing cow cheese etc.) that helped me a lot when I was first starting. Also, fish is low and filling.

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  • kymmixxx
    kymmixxx Posts: 151 Member
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    4'10 126Lbs at present. losing at least a pound a week eating no more than 1200cal and god forbid what would happen if i ate back my exercise calories..i also agree about how frustrating it is that i can work out for around a hour and feel like ive barely burned any calories! so good to hear its the same for others!
  • dzdame
    dzdame Posts: 89
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    So glad to hear that I am not the only one with a good sized appetite...now compared to what I observe others eating, not so big, but I definitely need more than 1200 cals/day to feel full...and so I workout. But the lbs have crept back on because I stopped logging..trying hard to get back into doing it faithfully..because a few lbs on petite women is like 10 on taller women..and the logging in really makes me aware of just how much I am eating..and tells me when to stop!

    I am going back to eating more salads when hungry..I like that suggestion because when I was losing regularly, I ate a lot of salads..
    Trying to remember to drink more water and eat as clean as possible..Vacation is coming up, so I am going to cut out the alcohol and cut back on sweets (icecream and dessert on weekends) before vacation to see if that helps get the extra lbs off, so I can cheat a bit on vacation..Fortunately, we are very active on our vacations (hike/bike/walk), so that helps..but what is vacation without a glass of wine with dinner or an icecream cone or two?

    I guess we travel size women just have a bit more of a challenge on this journey...
  • superflashphoto
    superflashphoto Posts: 30 Member
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    I'm 5'3 and I rarely break 1200 calories in a day, especially when I factor in exercise.
    I know everyone says you should eat your exercise calories, but I would feel completely bloated if I ate that way. I generally tend to only eat when I'm hungry, and I have mostly healthful snacks / meals on hand, so it can be a challenge to break 1200 calories!
  • lynn1982
    lynn1982 Posts: 1,439 Member
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    I'm 5'. When I first joined MFP, I followed their guidelines and my weight loss slowed to a crawl. I re-set my goals to 1000 calories a day. On most days I find that difficult to follow so I also work out at least once a day (usually twice a day) just to give myself some extra calories available to eat. Some days I eat some, but rarely all, of my exercise calories, and some days I don't. This seems to be working for now.