Excellent Lost Theory!

timisw

I read this and got goose bumps!

http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/may/31/lost-panopticon/

The Lost island is a prison/hospital located in a wormhole. The island is a Panopticon located in a wormhole in the universe created by the Dharma initiative. The black smoke is the universe self correcting itself and transporting a “fixed” person back to real time.

The idea of Panopticon where prisoners could be observed without them knowing it was first proposed by Philosopher Jeremy Bentham in the late 18th century (see the easter egg J. “…ntham in obituary – Jeremy “Ben”tham was also greatly influenced by John Locke). John Lock will be in the coffin at the end of the series. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell if they are being observed or not, thus conveying a “sentiment of an invisible omniscience.” In his own words, Bentham described the Panopticon as “a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example. There was an episode where somebody was asked what are you doing here, and they responded “We watch”.

In addition to a prison of sorts, the island is also a hospital. Patients are observed and experiments are run. ”. Some “normal” people are “Control Samples”.

The people on the island all have one thing in common and they were all specifically chosen to go to the island so that they could be observed in order to determine the island’s affect on their “situation”. They are either mentally or physically disabled or with some sort of imperfection or impairment. The island experiment is to see if these life problems can be corrected or healed in real-time via the wormhole, the person be regenerated, and transplanted back into real-time.

The hatch with the magnetic pull was creating the wormhole and was continually resetting the second door back to 108 minutes thus perpetuating the time period in the wormhole over a period of 20 years or so. Now that the second door has stopped resetting itself and bending the light, the island is in risk of being discovered and catching back up with present day.

timisw

I read this and got goose bumps!

http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/may/31/lost-panopticon/

The Lost island is a prison/hospital located in a wormhole. The island is a Panopticon located in a wormhole in the universe created by the Dharma initiative. The black smoke is the universe self correcting itself and transporting a “fixed” person back to real time.

The idea of Panopticon where prisoners could be observed without them knowing it was first proposed by Philosopher Jeremy Bentham in the late 18th century (see the easter egg J. “…ntham in obituary – Jeremy “Ben”tham was also greatly influenced by John Locke). John Lock will be in the coffin at the end of the series. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell if they are being observed or not, thus conveying a “sentiment of an invisible omniscience.” In his own words, Bentham described the Panopticon as “a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example. There was an episode where somebody was asked what are you doing here, and they responded “We watch”.

In addition to a prison of sorts, the island is also a hospital. Patients are observed and experiments are run. ”. Some “normal” people are “Control Samples”.

The people on the island all have one thing in common and they were all specifically chosen to go to the island so that they could be observed in order to determine the island’s affect on their “situation”. They are either mentally or physically disabled or with some sort of imperfection or impairment. The island experiment is to see if these life problems can be corrected or healed in real-time via the wormhole, the person be regenerated, and transplanted back into real-time.

The hatch with the magnetic pull was creating the wormhole and was continually resetting the second door back to 108 minutes thus perpetuating the time period in the wormhole over a period of 20 years or so. Now that the second door has stopped resetting itself and bending the light, the island is in risk of being discovered and catching back up with present day.

beep

Uuuhhhhhhhhhh...............:laugh: don't know what to say!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: except that I love science fiction.... if it's fiction

cheermom11

Holy cow! My mind will be racing now. I am borderline obsessed with that show.

Thanks for sharing!

watch48win

I like that theory.....maybe this is why some of the people don't age that are on the show....

I love LOST!

timisw

I just like how it crosses between real philosophers and there ideas and the show!

cheermom11

I just like how it crosses between real philosophers and there ideas and the show!

I absolutely agree. The writers for that show are genius!

maverickyanda

Except that it has several...holes.
One of them being that the hatch blew up. So what happened to this supposed wormhole-creating (ake time) machine?

What Ben was alluding to in the SF was that the Orchid Station contained some kind of "wormhole"/time machine if it had exotic negative matter as the video said.

So...so both stations were equally important?
What station does the time-jumping? Only the orchid "moves" the island? So one station moves brains and the other moves bodies?

Why wouldn't the Others keep control over The Hatch? Why just seed it to Des?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

The only problem that I have with theories popping up over the net is that they keep saying "SPACE/TIME" or "WORMHOLE" to explain everything.

It does not clearly say, "Blank is happening because blank blank blank and we can see this outlined in blank blank and is further evidenced by blank and blank and my theory will be further proved when blank..."

maverickyanda

PS How you keep something contained in a wormhole is beyond me. Furthermore, how would all other (or most) laws of science -specifically, relativity- stay constant in Lost world?

timisw

Speaking of what EACH station on Dharma does, I thought that WIKI did a good job explaining them!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHARMA_Initiative

I would really like to know why the Other's went into hiding! They didnt come back until the Island was REALLY in trouble!

maverickyanda

I meant relative to the theory.

If both stations are needed to create the wormhole, then what happened when the Hatch blew up? One end of the wormhole would have had to close.

For a wormhole to exist (well, depending on which theory you're using) you'd need some sort of machine or energy source that created some continuous source of negative energy.

According to the Orchid video, apparently it can be found (although it wasn't really explained) and I'm still scratching my head at the logistics of it.

If Ben jumped from the island to Africa that is time traveling because he clearly shaved off about 18 flight hours from the trip

timisw

I meant relative to the theory.

If both stations are needed to create the wormhole, then what happened when the Hatch blew up? One end of the wormhole would have had to close.

For a wormhole to exist (well, depending on which theory you're using) you'd need some sort of machine or energy source that created some continuous source of negative energy.

According to the Orchid video, apparently it can be found (although it wasn't really explained) and I'm still scratching my head at the logistics of it.

If Ben jumped from the island to Africa that is time traveling because he clearly shaved off about 18 flight hours from the trip

Maybe they have control over where the other end of the Wormhole ends up (or maybe its in Africa)? Why else would Ben choose that location after turning the wheel (I am pretty sure it was there since he was in the same jacket and his arm was injurred). Pretty sure that that would have to be space, not time, though it could have been both! Plus, Ben knew the consequences of having to leave the island once Jacob told him to move the island.

I am not sure if the two stations were connected. The Swan was just a location of electromagnetic build up. Or are you thinking of another station besides the Swan and the Orchid?

timisw

Everything anyone ever wanted to know about WormHoles...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worm_holes

Holy Hell! Who thinks of this?

Next we will have instantaneous human combustion on the show!

maestrachistosa

LOVE IT! LOVE IT!!!!!!! LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!