read skinny bi**ch and still eat meat

peej76

Wow, I didn't realize this book was meant to completely gross me out! To me it is very disturbing and I honestly don't know if I can read the rest. Have any of you read the book and continued to eat meat. If so how were you able to eat meat after just reading what they wrote. Or am I just really gullible and are they making this crap up? Please tell me that is the case. I usually just eat and don't think about the process, I never dreamed about the abuse these animals sometimes may endure, but now I'm afraid I may just think about this all the time. Kinda just makes me sad.

peej76

Wow, I didn't realize this book was meant to completely gross me out! To me it is very disturbing and I honestly don't know if I can read the rest. Have any of you read the book and continued to eat meat. If so how were you able to eat meat after just reading what they wrote. Or am I just really gullible and are they making this crap up? Please tell me that is the case. I usually just eat and don't think about the process, I never dreamed about the abuse these animals sometimes may endure, but now I'm afraid I may just think about this all the time. Kinda just makes me sad.

DETERMINED2Drop

I've read the book and to be honest... still love my chicken and steak. These women do not really or truly know what they are saying... some of it might be the truth... but some of the things they say are just terrible, misleading, and trying to scare people skinny.

SherryRH

I read the book and it took me a few days to eat meat. I was really grossed out by it. I found it very informative. Although, had I known it was a book about being a vegan, I would not have bought it. I can't be a vegan. I love meat too much.

mommared53

Thanks for the warning. I won't read the book now. God said we could eat meat and I'm eating it. :bigsmile:

songbyrdsweet

I don't know what people expect when it comes to slaughtering animals. It's not clean or tidy...animals don't come in cling-wrap, they come covered in hair and skin and filled with poop. They have to be killed, skinned, gutted, and cut into pieces. There's blood and guts involved. It's no surprise, it's just that most people don't associate a big furry mooing cow with the (delicious) eye of round they're grilling. You really wanna be grossed out, go hunting or fishing and gut what you catch. Although I have to say that trout I catch on my own are WAY tastier than the stuff in the stores! :bigsmile:

barracudamuscle

Haven't read it don't plan to. I can tell you I love to eat the sheat of of meat though! Maybe its just me gowing up in Colorado, but it doesn't bother me the whole slaughering process, thats their purpose. Now abuse? I'm not so sure what they wrote but can tell you its probably bull ( can we say PETA sponsered book? hmm ) My buddy has a cattle ranch and those cows actually live a really great life. I would second guess that book and its underwriting message.

Goto a cattle ranch one day, see how they live, its probably farther from the "abuse" that mumbo jumbo is claiming. On the other hand, theres a few that slip through the cracks, like one the FDA found out about in Chino, CA aobut 2 months ago that they were indeed abusing the animals, now their shut down, the FDA has no tolerance for that.

If you have a real stomach maybe go to a slaugher house one day, there's some quick methods that the cow doesnt even see it coming, snap your fingers and its over. I wish everyone got it wasy like that. But hey, maybe it's just me? I love meat, have worked in some interesting jobs and everything I saw/did I still went home at the end of the day to a nice, big fat juicy steak.

Take that book with a grain of salt.....

Pat:drinker:

lotusfromthemud

I read it, and it didn't stop me from eating meat, but did cause me to look into more compassionate sources for my meat. I now try to only buy: locally raised, small farm meat. Bonus: it tastes way better, and isn't burdened with antibiotics.

There's a great book called "The Compassionate Carnivore".

As in any industry, there is corruption, and mistreatment of both people and product (just in this case the product is alive and can suffer.)

As a side note, the people who wrote the book aren't dieticians, and are essentially preaching "skinny" over "healthy", which I can't get behind, vegan or no.

barracudamuscle

I don't know what people expect when it comes to slaughtering animals. It's not clean or tidy...animals don't come in cling-wrap, they come covered in hair and skin and filled with poop. They have to be killed, skinned, gutted, and cut into pieces. There's blood and guts involved. It's no surprise, it's just that most people don't associate a big furry mooing cow with the (delicious) eye of round they're grilling. You really wanna be grossed out, go hunting or fishing and gut what you catch. Although I have to say that trout I catch on my own are WAY tastier than the stuff in the stores! :bigsmile:

I can also contest to that. Nothing like a fresh fish caught,ummm man I miss my fishing! I am a avid hunter/fisher and there is nothing tastier ( or cleaner/rewarding ) then some fresh elk or deer steaks! Id give my right nut to be able to eat a fresh elk steak right now! The advantage of hunting is you are sure how the meat was cleaned, treated, cut, so it will meet all your standards. It's not a pretty thing to see for all, but I guess your just raised into a sort of acceptance and the whole gutting, cutting process is just second nature.

peej76

I don't mind the whole blood and guts thing that doesn't bother me at all. My husband and his brothers, uncles, father are hunters big deal, I know animals aren't just magically put into their neat little packets. I have cleaned and gutted my own fish before, do it quite often actually. It's just the way these girls write it that makes me sick, especially when talking about the abuse, and barracuda, I'll definitley take your advice, and take it with a grain of salt. I also know farmers, who treat their animals as their own, and tear up every time they have to let them go. I just don't want to be eating my supper tonight (chicken, my brother used to work on a chicken farm, so I know how it works) and think of these things the authors talk about. The book is actually going in the garbage! And exactly what I'm concerned about barracuda, is how the animals are being treated, that's the part I'm talking about making me sick, not the actual process of how we come to get the meat. I'm just sad that there actually could be "farm factories" that do to their animals what the book says they do. Didn't mean to come off as a prissy, ewww I don't eat bambi girl!

1harleygal

I have read the book and actually followed the diet of only fruit for breakfast & veggies for lunch and lost weight. Unfortunately it was so restricted that I wasn't able to stick to it! What they describe in the book about animals either slaughtering or feeding is completely true! If you don't believe me go through Hereford, TX and the feed lots there and then tell me that the book doesn't portray the conditions of animals truthfully:huh: Any way I have been vegetarian for over 8 months and feel so much better not eating meat. At first I missed my Spicy Thighs form Popeye's but no longer, longer you go the easier it is!:laugh:

msarro

Yep, I look at it like this - if I'm stranded, naked, in the middle of a jungle, when I get eaten it won't be clean and tidy. Therefore there's nothing unnatural or expecially cruel in how we do things. At least we try to be humane about it.

Sadly enough, we're actually less humane than we used to be thanks to Oprah, of all people. When dazing animals an airgun is used which impacts the front of the animals head. They used to use sharp ones which actually damaged the front of the animals brain instantly, so they couldn't feel any pain when they were actually killed. Because of Oprah's mad cow scare and worry that brain matter would enter the blood stream, these guns now use blunted tips which don't always daze the animal. PETA then claims that this is cruel and uses it for their video series. Its kind of sad... the people who are doing their jobs can't really seem to win either way.

Meat means something dies, and death is never pretty. But its part of life.

I grew up in a hunting family, and near a butcher. Nothing I read in those books phases me unless its exceptionally cruel - like the KFC or McDonalds stuff. Now THAT gave me chills.

barracudamuscle

I just wouldn't recommend going fishing with this girl, I can't take her anywhere! She clearly abused this fish, what did his wife think when she kissed him? I had to kiss that all day long, the things I do......:grumble: :laugh:



I dont see it! I've lost my touch. I dont know how to get ti to show up, I did the photobucket thingy, put the img tag on the front and back. hmm I guess It's a good thing I didn't pursue computr technologys after getting my Microsoft A++ cert, lol

msarro

I just wouldn't recommend going fishing with this girl, I can't take her anywhere! She clearly abused this fish, what did his wife think when she kissed him? I had to kiss that all day long, the things I do......:grumble: :laugh:

LOL

nice picture

jlauren6

I read this book, and it took me a couple weeks to eat meat. I have significantly cut out meats and certain dairy products...but not to the extreame of this book. My friend has been doing it for a while, she lost 20lbs, but not in a healthy way. Cutting out some of the unhealthy things in a diet is fine, but starving is NOT the way to go.

diannholland1965

First I can not see how reading a book that cusses you out and belittles you is a good read.
These girls are not Doctors and I fear that their FAD DIET will hurt more then heal.
That said. IF you want to read a book from a person who DID go to a slaughter house amoung other places. Read Fast Food Nation.
I have not gone to a fast food joint after reading this book.
And I do not plan to eigther.
I do not eat red meat, (One reason or another I can not digest it anymore without tummy cramps from hell.) but I DO eat Chicken Eggs and Fish. Pork here and there.
AND I am getting my lamb from the butcher shop tonight.
IF YOU CAN get meat this way do so. It is best I THINK to know WHERE your meat came from.
BTW I do not pay more for this then I did before because my shop is close to where the ranches are. Not much extra fule was used in the making of my meat products.
I KNOW where the chickens and the eggs came from. I have seen their lot.
I can not say as much for the fish. But living in the midwest, we are not that close to a salmon farm.
I get what I get, When I can.
I do not mean to be a snob about it. I DO understand that there are areas that getting meat this way is not an option. Which I think is a shame...If it where however you would be able to taste the difference.
--Diann...

auntkaren

I've never read the book, but this reminds me of an incident that happened to me a few years ago. I was driving on the freeway and there wast a truck load of cattle in front of me. And I swear they looked at me with those big brown eyes. And it was at least 6 months or more before I could eat beef.:frown:

songbyrdsweet

I've never read the book, but this reminds me of an incident that happened to me a few years ago. I was driving on the freeway and there wast a truck load of cattle in front of me. And I swear they looked at me with those big brown eyes. And it was at least 6 months or more before I could eat beef.:frown:

I guess I've been desensitized to it now lol...I live in southwest VA, and our apartment complex is literally surrounded by farms. I could walk for 5 minutes and be 3 feet away from a field full of cows. When I jog, all the cows and sheep watch me intently because I'm so close to them... there are both meat and dairy cows, plus a ton of sheep, some donkeys, and plenty of horses. There's some angus right across the street too... From what I can see, the cows have a ton of room to roam, they eat all day and night, and are rotated through different fields. There are no cages for the calves (to make more tender veal). That said, these are grass-fed free-range cows, and their meat is more expensive and has a different nutritional profile than the grain-fed beef that's often more crowded. I hardly eat beef anyway (too expensive) so it really doesn't affect me.

Diann, I saw Fast Food Nation the other day, we had it on cable...the only thing that I felt was misrepresented is that if independent studies show there's poop in the meat, the FDA will shut the operation down (this is from the scene where the guy is talking to Bruce WIllis about the independent studies). So you're not going to be eating poopy meat :laugh: Other than that, I think fast food is gross anyway, and I can't stand the greasy film it leaves in my mouth, so I am with you on not eating it. :sick:

barracudamuscle

Did you know you can lead a cow up a flight of stairs but you can never get him to go down the stairs? Don't ask me how I know besides the fact I know of a guy of a guy of a guys sister whos boyfriend knew a guy who had a little prank involving some farm animals, too funny!:laugh:

I just bought the most scrumpcious steak 5 minutes ago for when my fiance comes out ( tommorow!!!) after all this talk of meat I couldn't resist, well that and the turkey brats, the mini cake ( for our anniversary ) the skim chocolate milk, the list goes on, It's going to be a bad weekend for me but I think I can offset my eating with alot of cardio, so Im not going to feel guilty!

songbyrdsweet

Did you know you can lead a cow up a flight of stairs but you can never get him to go down the stairs? Don't ask me how I know besides the fact I know of a guy of a guy of a guys sister whos boyfriend knew a guy who had a little prank involving some farm animals, too funny!:laugh:

I just bought the most scrumpcious steak 5 minutes ago for when my fiance comes out ( tommorow!!!) after all this talk of meat I couldn't resist, well that and the turkey brats, the mini cake ( for our anniversary ) the skim chocolate milk, the list goes on, It's going to be a bad weekend for me but I think I can offset my eating with alot of cardio, so Im not going to feel guilty!

Yea, they won't walk over grating or slats in the ground either! Some of the fence areas are open, but they put these special metal bars in the ground that the cows won't walk over. The same apparently goes for llamas and camels and deer...they do that at the safari park nearby as well hehe :happy: Have fun with your fiance! My bf and I are having lamb and butternut squash tonight, and we have a rabbit thawing for Friday or Saturday.

barracudamuscle

Yea, they won't walk over grating or slats in the ground either! Some of the fence areas are open, but they put these special metal bars in the ground that the cows won't walk over. The same apparently goes for llamas and camels and deer...they do that at the safari park nearby as well hehe :happy: Have fun with your fiance! My bf and I are having lamb and butternut squash tonight, and we have a rabbit thawing for Friday or Saturday.

Im jealous, I havent had rabbit in a long time, almost hit one the other day driving though! My basset loves to hunt rabbits, he would be mad if he found out I had it without him, then again he gets mad when he gets left behind going fishing, hunting, 4 wheeling, ok basically anywhere because he knows hell get t ride shotgun! Here he is going to town with his most hated blood enemy, the infamous Koala Bear! Ok Im trying to figure out this photobucket thing and trying to find a good excuse to upload pics to test it, lol. Enjoy your lamp, I like a hint of mint jelly on mine, but everyones different, Im just plain weird I guess!:drinker: :bigsmile:

songbyrdsweet

Awwwwwe haha what a great picture!!! I miss having a dog...but I'm buying one as soon as I can, and it'll be my jogging partner! :bigsmile:

Gorgeous

Seriously... when i was 5 or 6...my 17 year old baby sitter told me how they killed the animals and showed me pictures and told me horror stories about the animals...

and since then...i didnt eat meat
if i do...its boca burgers...or boca hotdogs
or tofu...but realy meat GROSSES ME OUT so much
and ill be 19....it stuck with me
:grumble:

peej76

I've never read the book, but this reminds me of an incident that happened to me a few years ago. I was driving on the freeway and there wast a truck load of cattle in front of me. And I swear they looked at me with those big brown eyes. And it was at least 6 months or more before I could eat beef.:frown:

I guess I've been desensitized to it now lol...I live in southwest VA, and our apartment complex is literally surrounded by farms. I could walk for 5 minutes and be 3 feet away from a field full of cows. When I jog, all the cows and sheep watch me intently because I'm so close to them... there are both meat and dairy cows, plus a ton of sheep, some donkeys, and plenty of horses. There's some angus right across the street too... From what I can see, the cows have a ton of room to roam, they eat all day and night, and are rotated through different fields. There are no cages for the calves (to make more tender veal). That said, these are grass-fed free-range cows, and their meat is more expensive and has a different nutritional profile than the grain-fed beef that's often more crowded. I hardly eat beef anyway (too expensive) so it really doesn't affect me.


Diann, I saw Fast Food Nation the other day, we had it on cable...the only thing that I felt was misrepresented is that if independent studies show there's poop in the meat, the FDA will shut the operation down (this is from the scene where the guy is talking to Bruce WIllis about the independent studies). So you're not going to be eating poopy meat :laugh: Other than that, I think fast food is gross anyway, and I can't stand the greasy film it leaves in my mouth, so I am with you on not eating it. :sick:

See, that's why it really hit me, I'm a country girl, and live in a really rural area,surrounded by farms where you raise the cow. The book is talking about hundreds of animals that are basically kept in buildings squished all in together, and the employees treating the animals so bad, that half the stuff that is allegedly done to the animals is unspeakable! That's what got me! But I still ate my chicken, and just tried hard not to think about it! It still tasted yummy lol! Maybe the authors are the prissy ewww bambi types, and they just don't want me to eat meat lol!

runawaybride

So me being the type of curious person I am went out and bought the book after all this talk ...and I am actually intrigued about some of the things ....like aspartame(which let me tell ya I drink my fair share of diet soda:sad: )....and the process milk goes thru...and many others!!! These things I did not know and now that I do it does wake me up a little. I think the only reason they talk the way the do is the only "gimmick " behind the book but the facts speak for themselves as far as having studies to prove their statements and they seem to know what they are talking about. Sure they use insults and snappy little sayings but it keeps your attention does it not?? So just ignore that part and take in the facts. Am I going to be choosing what I eat a little more careful after reading that ...yeah actually I think I am.Every type of "way of eating" takes commitment and dedication and lets face it everyone knows what is healthy and what is not so as long as you are eating the things you truly like and try to stay as healthy as possible do it and if this book taught you some things in the process well great then it was worth the time you spent reading it!!

:flowerforyou:

spaul82478

When I first read the first chapter i was like WHOA... especally the parts about sugars and diet pop...god..... then it got into the not eatting meats and i gave up... I love chicken and tuna fish..so... well.. the book was good but... not for me..... :bigsmile:

GinaB30

Thanks for the warning. I won't read the book now. God said we could eat meat and I'm eating it. :bigsmile:

Amen to that! lol
How do you feel about scavengers? The bible says not to eat things with paws (rabbit, dog of course, etc) and scavangers (lobster, etc)...?

barracudamuscle

I feel they taste delicous! ( well besides dog, thats not very good, more like a weird chicken ) Nothing like some fresh lobster, some butta, some shrimp, ::sigh:: I love seafood.:drinker:

abbychelle07

I LOVED this book, and bought it! I still eat meat though. I gave it up for awhile, but it would be easier if my husband is on board.

HOWEVER, we bought a share of an organic, grass-fed farm around here (WI) so now we get meat each month that we pick up. I met the owner at the farmer's market. (Organic, free-range, grass-fed, and killed in a very small slaughter-house). We could get veggies too, but my hubby has a huge garden. We eat a lot less meat because we only eat from the farm. I never buy meat at the grocery store anymore.

I love knowing that the animals are healthier and we are healthier. Read "Omnivores Dilemma" if you are curious about corn-fed meat vs. grass-fed. Grass fed is WAY healthier. The fact that animals are bulked up with corn is one of the reasons they are fed so much antibiotics.

And I love supporting a local guy that is really into health and the environment.

cp005e

I haven't read the book.

I am a vegetarian largely for environmental and anti-cruelty reasons. I have been since I was 13. I think it is important to be aware of where your food is coming from in any case. Just because you can get apples from New Zealand doesn't necessarily mean that it makes sense to pay (in both dollars and pollution) to transport them halfway around the world. I try to buy local food whenever I can.

It sounds like this book is kind of aggressive in style, and I worry that it might turn people off who didn't really want to hear the message anyway. It is easier to try and forget where food comes from. I am still not vegan, and I admit that I sometimes just try to forget about rennet in cheese (usually made from enzymes taken from cow stomachs, but sometimes from vegetarian microbial sources). We live in a world where we are free to pursue careers and goals beyond just feeding ourselves - the only downside is that we no longer know what we are eating sometimes.