Rant about Main stream fitness mags out there

Loretta_Jo

I think the magazine is a wonderful idea as well. I will do what ever I can. I don’t know what that would be but I will do my best to help. :flowerforyou:

banks1850

I'm trying to wrap my head around cooking a chicken in a rotisserie without skin on it,
Loretta_jo, you trying to cook it with less fat? If yes, then just remove the skin after you
cook it, I don't think removing the skin before hand would do any good anyway.

Loretta_Jo

I'm trying to wrap my head around cooking a chicken in a rotisserie without skin on it,
Loretta_jo, you trying to cook it with less fat? If yes, then just remove the skin after you
cook it, I don't think removing the skin before hand would do any good anyway.

You don’t think some of that fat wont get into the chicken and raise the calorie count? If it wont then I will cook it with the skin on and then throw it away. I love chicken on the rotisserie. :flowerforyou:

Nich0le

Loretta

my husband is a chef and his suggestion is to take the skin off and season your chicken and then if you are using a rotissiere you will want to baste your chicken often. You could also cook that chicken without the skin in one of your dusty crockpots!

His second suggestion is to use the oven and place your chicken in a pan with seasoning and a little bit of chicken broth or water and cover the entire dish with seran wrap and then foil on top of that. No the plastic wrap will not melt on the chicken (I didn't believe it the first time either!) and the plastic wrap helps keep more moisture in the meat than the foil alone. To get the chicken a little golden just uncover the chicken for the last few minutes and it will look and taste just as good as a chicken with skin!!!

Good luck!

Loretta_Jo

Loretta

my husband is a chef and his suggestion is to take the skin off and season your chicken and then if you are using a rotissiere you will want to baste your chicken often. You could also cook that chicken without the skin in one of your dusty crockpots!

His second suggestion is to use the oven and place your chicken in a pan with seasoning and a little bit of chicken broth or water and cover the entire dish with seran wrap and then foil on top of that. No the plastic wrap will not melt on the chicken (I didn't believe it the first time either!) and the plastic wrap helps keep more moisture in the meat than the foil alone. To get the chicken a little golden just uncover the chicken for the last few minutes and it will look and taste just as good as a chicken with skin!!!

Good luck!

Thank you so much and tell your husband thank you also. I will have to try that. Did he say what to baste it with? Would just chicken broth be the thing I would need to use?
That is good to know about the saran wrap keeping more in moisture then the foil alone. I found out that the saran wrap wouldn’t melt by accident. I had it over a pan then foil over that and forgot about the saran wrap till it had been in the oven for a long time and almost done. I freaked out and just knew I would have a mess to clean up and the dish would be ruined. To my surprise it was fine but boy did it scare me when I remembered what I had done.
Thanks again I will give this a try. :flowerforyou:

cmriverside

I love the "Brown-in-Bags" for poultry.

It self bastes, holds in the moisture and tates de-lish. I always use them for whole poultry. They come in different sizes. I've used them for 20lb turkey, and they're perfect and never dry. I'll bet they would work great with no skin, and just add broth in thebag. I'll let you know how that works.

cmriverside AKA Cheryl

banks1850

so back on topic, cm,
I ran my own IT consulting business for 5 years (I only got out of it because it was like 14 hours a day
and the hours were breaking up my marrage), and know a thing or two about
sales and marketing. found this site which has tips on starting magazines. Might be helpful

http://www.magazinelaunch.com/

One thing I was thinking of is finding local gyms that cater to the target audience and asking them to carry your magazine in exchange free local advertising. (maybe an insert into all local circulations)

banks1850

bump, wanted to make sure you saw the last post CM.

P.S. to all you internet neophytes,

Bump is the term used to put a post back to the top of the list
so it doesn't fade from memory.

mollymay

I am a registered nurse with a minor in English if you need anything related to medical in your magazine... I think its a great idea!!

cmriverside

so back on topic, cm,
I ran my own IT consulting business for 5 years (I only got out of it because it was like 14 hours a day
and the hours were breaking up my marrage), and know a thing or two about
sales and marketing. found this site which has tips on starting magazines. Might be helpful

http://www.magazinelaunch.com/

One thing I was thinking of is finding local gyms that cater to the target audience and asking them to carry your magazine in exchange free local advertising. (maybe an insert into all local circulations)

I'm kinda ovewhelmed by all the support. Some of you think this is an MFP Magazine, and that I am wanting to volunteer my time. I am looking at this as a business. So, there is the issue of $$$. Banks, do you think an online newsletter would work better? I just think maybe a new glossy magazine might get lost in the glut of health magazines on the shelf already. I am not the one to do a new website, though I know a couple people that could (and maybe would) help online. Since we are all spread all over the planet, there would have to be online collaboration. I wonder if a "newsletter" type thing -given out for free to everyone we know might be good, too. I think it has to start small.....see what happens.

Regardless, I will try to get to your article today. Are you good with
"No-Six-Packs (Healthy living for the average person)" -your suggestion -

Or how bout "No-Time-For-Six-Packs? Easy Solutions To Healthy Living" (or "Quick And Easy Solutions To Healthy Living" )
- I also worked in marketing, so I know how IMPORTANT it is to 'brand' any product from the start. And grab the web address.......

Cheryl bump, your turn.

p.s. nice pic! As soon as NASCAR is over........

banks1850

I like this one better but would add "and Exercise" to the end. Like so. No-Time-For-Six-Packs? Easy Solutions To Healthy Living" (or "Quick And Easy Solutions For Healthy Living and Exercise" )

but maybe instead of quick and easy, something else should be put in, cuz lets face it, our solutions are neither quick nor easy how about Real World I.E. "Real World Solutions for Healthy Living and Exercise."

Think that's too dumbed down for people?

cmriverside

banks LOL

There is already a "Weight Loss For Dummies Book."

You were in marketing, right? "Quick and Easy" probably not so good; you're right, this takes time. - "Easy" is something people would buy. If we don't make it "easy" they won't have time to try it, let alone buy it. As a mission we need:

1. Healthy
2. Easy
3. Food Choices
4. Do-able Exercise

I'm not thrilled with "Real World" - since it isn't very action oriented and a bit vague.

"No Time For Six-Pack Abs? Easy Solutions For Healthy Living And Exercise"

I added "Abs" in case there is (a beer) confusion. We all have time for beer

banks1850

I like it. that sounds better to me!

loreeb18

I like to read stories in magazines about "real" people's (not celebrities with nutritionists and trainers and personal cooks) weight loss. But I hate when the people lie about what size they are and what they weigh after the weight loss. I'm 5'4" and I weigh about 140 pounds. I usually wear a size 10. These people in the articles say they're 5'4", 140 pounds and they are down to a size 4. At my smallest 131 pounds, I never wore smaller than an 8. Losing any amout of weight is a huge accomplishment. Why do they have to exaggerate? Why can't they just be proud of it?

cmriverside

I never lie. Ever. Never lied in my LIFE. I have some (swamp) land in Florida to sell you. They are draining the Everglades.

cmriverside

oh, and banks,

"No Six Packs! The fitness magazine for NORMAL people"

That was your original post....probably already we are having too many meetings. We should sitck with your gut!

banks1850

how can I argue with that logic! and maybe a little mystery about beer would help. Hey if we can grab just 1 frat brother before his belly looks 6 months preggo, then we have done our work.

cmriverside

banks,

I've tried a couple times to read through the "how to start a magazine" site you posted. Great if you have money to burn. Any thoughts on how to build a client base? How many "freebies" are to be made? I think start with something self-published.

I'm having trouble finding this to be a passion, too. I swore I wouldn't take a job in any industry that I didn't feel passionate about. Now if there were tigers involved......or solar power.......both lifetime facinations.....

g06m1281

wow! There is some interest! I don't know if we could call it an MFP Magazine.....and just so's ya know: I have no "formal" magazine experience, but I too was a journalism major (in the days before IT ).

This is one of those great ideas that just screams DO IT! Banks, I'm going to do some research and get back to this thread.

~cm

I am also a Journalism major and will be completing my degree next year. My specialisation is writing and editing , so it would be great to be a part of this!

loriallred

I'm a photographer and would love to take REAL pictures of REAL people using REAL methods and solutions to weight loss and exercise. Let me know if you need anything.

Lori

traumarn

The perfect magazine life style has never been realistic for me even when I was single. Now it’s so ridiculous to even think about, being married, fulltime job and two kids. I workout 5 to 3 times a week, sometimes it’s very difficult to stay on track when all you want to do is sleep when your kids do not sleep at night. I love to cook however; I need to make healthy food that my whole family will eat.

kjllose

I have no expertise whatsoever on writing or photo taking . I was enjoying how excited you all were about it and then I lost the thread. Did you all give up? Banks have you dropped off the face of the earth or are you just really busy what with the season. Anyways, Merry Christmas to you all on this thread.Bump~Karen:devil:

cmriverside

Karen,

As I saw on another thread here today, you may have noticed I like to chit-chat. Can ya tell by the 700+ posts, or what gave it away ??

I was thinking about banks, too. And julieofhtewolves, and gator007, and erin (from Australia), and Washington mfpals ahertel0214 and time2wrk.

Wonder if we'll see them after the holiday??

As for the magazine - I thought about it, and it seems that although there was interest, it would be be a major investment of time and resources. I don't want to make my whole life forever-more be about the weight loss industry. I am looking for a business, not a volunteer opportunity, and I don't have the 'passion' for the magazine.

Cheryl

Kate

Re cooking chicken question, I used to steam my chicken in an electric skillet (with a lid) on a rack. All the fat drains to the bottom of the pan, and the skin is easily removed, ...and the chicken is still nice and moist.

kjllose

Gee Cheryl, I'm really trying to catch up in the chitchat dept. LOL I just have to spend most of my time shoveling snow lately. :sad: That and repairing school buses, I broke the door opener on mine today and had to replace it. What's your weather like out there? We are supposed to get -5 degrees tonight. I didn't think the mag would work and if you aren't into it it just isn't worth doing. Catch ya in some other posts. It always makes me wonder why people suddenly disappear from the posts. Did they reach their goal? Did they just get busy? Oh well hope they come back , they were fun.

Loretta_Jo

I have noticed through the years that during the holidays people get busy and all of my groups get really really slow. Maybe things will pick up after the first of the year. :flowerforyou:

kjllose

Good to hear you Loretta_Jo, I hope today finds you feeling well. We've been shoveling the snow here and I'm really tired of it and winter just started. I didn't mind it so much when it looked pretty falling out of the sky yesterday. lol~Karen

Loretta_Jo

Hi Karen! I’m doing well just busy. I have way more to do then I can get done lol
My son was here this past weekend helping me with my computer.
The washing machine has had a problem so I could only wash half loads. My husband got parts and fixed that today so now I have to get the wash done before Friday. I have winter clothes to get ready to wear this year as well as the backed up laundry. Ain’t life grand roflmao!
My son and his wife will be here again Friday. Things won’t slow down for us till after Christmas.
I hear you all got tons of snow. I love the snow but since we live in the deep south it is rear for us to get snow. I love to watch it fall also. It is so pretty but oh so cold.
When my son lived in Colorado I always got to see and play in the snow. He and his wife have moved back to Arkansas so my snow days are over. Last year when I was there for Thanksgiving the temperature was -11 degrees and much lower on the mountain in town. The cold I wont miss but I will miss the snow. Maybe we will get a little of the white stuff again someday.
I see your temp tonight is going to be -5. Burrr that is hurtful cold. People around here think they are going to freeze when it gets down in the 20’s lol. Folks around here just don’t know what cold is do they lol.
Stay warm girl and don’t hurt yourself shoveling snow.
TTYL…..Loretta :flowerforyou:

barefootbabe

I was thinking about banks, too. And julieofhtewolves, and gator007, and erin (from Australia), and Washington mfpals ahertel0214 and time2wrk.

Wonder if we'll see them after the holiday??

Cheryl

I'm still here! I am doing okay- things have been pretty rough with the boy i have moved out here for and so I have been spending lots of time stressing and talking and not talking and bouncing all over the place emotionally! But I have lost weight and am feeling pretty good in that department, which is a relief amongst everything else!

Things are also a bit sad as it is HOT here and doesn't feel like Christmas at all. I guess I just miss my family and my home and am feeling a bit displaced which has kept me from wanting to write too much!

But it is SO good to know that I am missed and I really appreciate it Cheryl! I hope you are enjoying the holiday season so far, and have no fear, I am still lurking about reading most posts!

pete

my 2 cents; maybe the magazine could start out as a newsletter on the MFP webpage. Like this it would help the MFP community? just a thought, i can already see a new tab on the website "newsletter" or online "magazine" for that matter. Just a thought.