Calorie count vs. Actually doing it right

misty1208

okay, I know my diet is not perfect at all but I'm trying to eat right and be healthy. And I know it's none of my business but it annoys me when I see people eating the whole days worth in one sitting eating pizza and cheeseburgers and soda then not eating the rest of the day to stay under their count. It's not healthy or motivating. I understand we all slip up now and then but I've been seeing it alot. I don't know.... It's none of my business but when I go to someones food diary I like to get ideas to help me out not see 1200 calories in greasy deep fried food.

Okay. I'm done. On the other hand almost everyone here is super nice, trying to make the healthy change and very supportive so thanks my new friends

wan2b21

I Feel the same way! as you know, healthy eating is eating smaller meals but more of them.. and of course not eating foods that are fried or heavily processed.. well.. maybe on occasion

Naomi91

Well not everyone here is on a path to be healthy. some people are here only to lose weight and look good. which means eating what every they want. its just a difference of opinions and wants. no need to make anyone feel bad for doing so.

HeartsTurtle

I agree with you and I would say to those people that they are doing it wrong. Because living that type of lifestyle will almost certainly lead to failure. Eating 3 well balanced meals with a few small snacks is the best way.

callmefor911

to each his own.. somedays I may be craving pizza and I just got to have it.. so I do just as not as much as I used to... working for me.. last I checked I was almost 10 pounds down..

ThatDollSally

I totally agree with you, that isn't healthy at all, but can you see if they completed the log in that day? I have a terrible habit of figured I'm going to go over and I quit logging my food. Maybe I'm just an optimist.

poisongirl6485

Kind of the chance you take when you snoop in someone else's food log. Would it be better that they don't even log it? No. At least they're documenting what they're eating, healthy or otherwise.

HeartsTurtle

Well not everyone here is on a path to be healthy. some people are here only to lose weight and look good. which means eating what every they want. its just a difference of opinions and wants. no need to make anyone feel bad for doing so.

I wonder if those people realize that they will almost certainly gain the weight back... and then some. And then when they want to lose it all again, it will be more difficult for it to come off. And this is someone speaking from experience ;-)

Naomi91

I agree with you and I would say to those people that they are doing it wrong. Because living that type of lifestyle will almost certainly lead to failure. Eating 3 well balanced meals with a few small snacks is the best way.

actually it has been proven that 6 evenly spaced meals is the best way.

jenbusick

You go and look at other people's logs? I never would have even thought to do that except with my friends!

Naomi91

Well not everyone here is on a path to be healthy. some people are here only to lose weight and look good. which means eating what every they want. its just a difference of opinions and wants. no need to make anyone feel bad for doing so.

I wonder if those people realize that they will almost certainly gain the weight back... and then some. And then when they want to lose it all again, it will be more difficult for it to come off. And this is someone speaking from experience ;-)

heh i would have to agree with ya there, a lot of people do gain a lot of the weight back but i am more of a person who thinks to each their own :]

HeartsTurtle

I agree with you and I would say to those people that they are doing it wrong. Because living that type of lifestyle will almost certainly lead to failure. Eating 3 well balanced meals with a few small snacks is the best way.

actually it has been proven that 6 evenly spaced meals is the best way.

I have heard that. Although, that's not possible for me with my schedule. So eating 3 well balanced meals with very light snacks is best for me :-)

wan2b21

Ever heard of the Hostess Diet?? http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

tompetty

I agree... but those are people who need to be motivated, probably not told they are annoying.

amymeenieminymo

Well not everyone here is on a path to be healthy. some people are here only to lose weight and look good. which means eating what every they want. its just a difference of opinions and wants. no need to make anyone feel bad for doing so.

I wonder if those people realize that they will almost certainly gain the weight back... and then some. And then when they want to lose it all again, it will be more difficult for it to come off. And this is someone speaking from experience ;-)

Not necessarily. The key to losing weight and keeping it off is to be realistic. If being thin and healthy meant ALWAYS eating healthy for the rest of my life, then getting to that goal would never happen. Sure I like salads and lean chicken, but there are other foods I like to eat. For example today, I had a healthy breakfast of a banana and yogurt, and my lunch included a banana and a lean cuisine, but I also had a pudding cup. Now I am sure lots of people would disagree with the pudding cup, but I can eat it and still be within my calories and I enjoy it.

Also, I had a can of pepsi with dinner. Yes pop is bad for you, but I love it. If I can eat mostly healthy but still enjoy the things I enjoy AND get skinny, that's awesome and I see nothing wrong with it. I see new people come all the time and say they are eating nothing but fruits and veggies and lean meats and they cannot meet their 1200 calorie goal for the life of them. That's because they're eating all this food that is SO low in calories, they just keep eating and eating and they get full but they just can't reach their calorie goal. This is not realistic and won't last. Sure there is healthy stuff they could eat that's higher in calories, but you get my point. I think that's why most diets fail, they leave no room for enjoyment. People think dieting is all about eating rabbit food, and when they can't stick with it, they quit.

Naomi91

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i would have to say that this is where i was getting at with this. Everyone is different and has their preferences. I eat 6 small meals that to some may just seem like snacks but all heathy choices. But to others they want to eat whatever and still lose weight. and if it works for them then great if not im sure they will figure it out. Not everyone likes to eat healthy

p.s. not trying to be rude :] you guys are all doing great! keep up the wonder work doing whatever is best for you

AnitaAntone

to each his own, it's a good thing we only have to pay for our own eating sins.

amymeenieminymo

I totally agree with you, that isn't healthy at all, but can you see if they completed the log in that day? I have a terrible habit of figured I'm going to go over and I quit logging my food. Maybe I'm just an optimist.

I do the same thing, logging it would only make me feel worse, I figure the day is kaput, and I start over the next day.

jacque1109

I would say, they logged that--- and then didn't log what else they ate

kappyblu

I am going to write this as nicely as I can. Whether or not a member makes their food diary public is their choice. That being said, I find it discouraging that members are being judged on their food choices. That stuff goes on out in public enough. This is supposed to be a supportive group, not a place for members to be berated. What they choose to eat is their business and whatever works for them is also their business. Live and let live. Believe it or not, members are not on here to help you or anyone else make food choices. They are here for their own personal reasons. If you are not getting healthy ideas from those people, then please look elsewhere. Shaming them in public is only repeating cruelties they have suffered from countless others.

amymeenieminymo

okay, I know my diet is not perfect at all but I'm trying to eat right and be healthy. And I know it's none of my business but it annoys me when I see people eating the whole days worth in one sitting eating pizza and cheeseburgers and soda then not eating the rest of the day to stay under their count. It's not healthy or motivating. I understand we all slip up now and then but I've been seeing it alot. I don't know.... It's none of my business but when I go to someones food diary I like to get ideas to help me out not see 1200 calories in greasy deep fried food.

Okay. I'm done. On the other hand almost everyone here is super nice, trying to make the healthy change and very supportive so thanks my new friends

I get what you're saying, but everyone has their own way of doing things. If they make their diary public they are certainly opening the door for others to look. And while you're entitled to your own opinion, I'm not sure what good it does to publicly complain about it. I've found that blogging (which you can do on this site) is better for an "annoyed rant" than the message boards

Naomi91

I am going to write this as nicely as I can. Whether or not a member makes their food diary public is their choice. That being said, I find it discouraging that members are being judged on their food choices. That stuff goes on out in public enough. This is supposed to be a supportive group, not a place for members to be berated. What they choose to eat is their business and whatever works for them is also their business. Live and let live. Believe it or not, members are not on here to help you or anyone else make food choices. They are here for their own personal reasons. If you are not getting healthy ideas from those people, then please look elsewhere. Shaming them in public is only repeating cruelties they have suffered from countless others.

agree 100% very well put

HeartsTurtle

Ok.. I'm going to take step back from this topic b/c I agree that it's everyone's personal choice as to what they eat.

I just want to say, that one of the reasons why I don't agree with people who starve themselves and then binge on pizza for their one meal is because it is very reminiscent of eating disorders. I witnessed my sister suffer for over 8 years with anorexia and then bulimia. She would often starve herself all day and then stuff her face with food for dinner. It created a very unhealthy pattern in her lifestyle that has not only lead to many other health problems, but almost always lead her into a cycle of losing weight and then quickly gaining it all back.

I'm not saying that everyone who eats pizza for dinner is going to develop an eating disorder. I just hope people realize that it's not about getting as skinny as they possible can, but eating foods that will not only make them look better, but help improve their energy levels, etc.

Ok...end rant :-)

misty1208

Trust me I knew full well before posting this that i would get lots of varied opinions. And i truly did not mean to "shame" anyone. And I fully understand that everyone here has days where they will eat pizza or drink soda... i did say that i know my diet is not perfect.
But my personal opinion is that its not healthy to eat all your calories in one sitting, and starve yourself the rest of the day. is that so wrong to say out loud?

inskydiamonds

I am going to write this as nicely as I can. Whether or not a member makes their food diary public is their choice. That being said, I find it discouraging that members are being judged on their food choices. That stuff goes on out in public enough. This is supposed to be a supportive group, not a place for members to be berated. What they choose to eat is their business and whatever works for them is also their business. Live and let live. Believe it or not, members are not on here to help you or anyone else make food choices. They are here for their own personal reasons. If you are not getting healthy ideas from those people, then please look elsewhere. Shaming them in public is only repeating cruelties they have suffered from countless others.

I completely agree with this. The best we can give to members of the community who may not be doing it in a way that you personally thinks works or think is healthy or whatever, is the support that I know I received from this website. It's the support that makes the days when I'm really craving something bad but knowing that I CAN DO IT because I have people on MFP who believe in me doing it.

With that said, I will reiterate what other people have already said on here - we all have our different ways. If you looked at my food diary today you could totally judge me and my food choices. Do I do this everyday? No. But I do have days when I want to pig out, and I do. And I've almost lost 40 pounds doing what I've been doing, so I hardly think anyone can tell me I'm doing it wrong. If I wanted to eat a whole pizza one day, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do that. Worrying about getting judged on here isn't something I should have to deal with and it isn't something any of us should be doing.

The biggest thing about this too is thought like this will discourage people from using MFP for the fear of being ridiculed. This site works if you use it. And if you need to eat half a pizza and log it and see how many calories it is and how it effects you for the rest of the day, you're probably NOT going to do that everyday. MFP is about logging the good days AND the bad.

Frankly, if you don't like how someone else is approaching their weightloss struggle, don't look at their diary.

Naomi91

Trust me I knew full well before posting this that i would get lots of varied opinions. And i truly did not mean to "shame" anyone. And I fully understand that everyone here has days where they will eat pizza or drink soda... i did say that i know my diet is not perfect.
But my personal opinion is that its not healthy to eat all your calories in one sitting, and starve yourself the rest of the day. is that so wrong to say out loud?

well since this is supposed to be a site full of support i would say that you do have to take into consideration others insecurities. It definately felt like you were calling people out directly to hurt. I agree with an above poster, that some people get **** for what they eat all the time and dont want to come to their support site and see people bashing on their eating habits. could lead to a binge, you just never know.

Just because you have an opinion doesnt make it appropriate to express

WildcatMom82

Meh, when I first started out back in college I knew nothing about healthy foods, etc. The only change I made was I counted calories and I lost 75 lbs, so yes you can lose weight that way - I ate a ton of ice cream and drank a ton of alcohol, but I was under cals. I thought I was eating better by the time I'd lost all that weight, but really I was eating a bunch of low-fat processed crap and sweets full of artificial sweeteners. However, it was better than what I'd done before KWIM? Some people just aren't educated OR just don't care. It's their body, I think it's harsh to judge if they're making an effort.

Lexie71

My food diary is not public because I do not diet and I know there are many people who would judge me for what I eat. Listening to those judgements is part of what got me where I am. It is not their fault for judging, it is my fault for listening.
Is it ok for you to say out loud that you don't think someone's food choices are healthy? Yes, I think so. We are all responsible for ourselves and how we do or do not let other's comments affect us.
I am very, VERY happy with what I am doing and the results I am seeing. Nutritionists woud have a hay day with my food journal!!! But I have to laugh....because years of dieting have not gotten me where I am today. Years of "healthy eating" (according to whatever expert was most popular at the time) did not get me to a better place. No one knows my body and mind better than me.
Bad habits are hard to break and if I can slowly change my thoughts and my actions (including nutrition) and lose weight at the same time....that is where I want to be!!!
Thank god we are all individuals!!! Uniquely created. Find what works for you and do it!! And express your opinion with respect. Maybe it will help someone else. I wouldn't play it fast and loose with the word "right" though.....that is more of a judgement call than an opinion, I think! Your "right" is someone else's "impossible" and your "wrong" might be someone else's progress!

craft338

if you don't get good ideas from one log, then just move on to a different one. if they didn't ask you for your opinion, then you shouldn't be judging. no need to make people feel bad or insecure, cuz then you're going against the whole reason for this website. they're not shoving the pizza in your mouth. so what if they're doing it wrong?

misty1208

OH for crying out loud people! Im not trying to be mean or say that im RIGHT. Obviously since im here I have the same issues as everyone else here.... and thats i want/need to lose weight.

honestly if i came across as a jugmental B i truly did not mean to. THe people that know me, know im a nice person. I am just like the rest of you.

This is obviously a extreamly touchy subject, one that was meant for a blog and not posting. One that i recived alot of private messages about already.

SO im sorry if i offended anyone here. That was not my intention at all.

MrsSassyPants

I'm too lazy to divide everything into breakfast lunch and dinner so my lunch could look like I ate everything at once. And you are right. It really isn't any of your business what other people do. Everyone has their own battles. We reap what we sow.