In a bit of a pickle

jen0619

I was a very bad girl today. I am going to run 6 miles and am pushing for 7 tonight. I have roughly 60 calories left. I know it is terrible to not eat after a workout but I am limited on calories due to my own fault.

Naomi91

60 calories left after your workout? I would say to just get in at least some carbs after, such as some brown rice or crackers. Dont want to risk any sort of muscle break down

so one day of just a tiny bit over wont be too bad :] especially since you will get a little metabolism boost after that sort of run :]

taso42_DELETED

Your run should earn you somewhere around 600+ calories though.... so you can afford to eat, no?

PlanetVelma

Just remember tomorrow's another day. I'm sure you can afford to eat a healthy and substantial meal after your workout.

skinnyme125

I agree if you have 60 before running then you should be fine. Just log your exercise and it will tell you that you get a lot more calories to eat. Then you eat and you are fine.

jen0619

Oh yeah in clarification for everyone. I do have 60 calories left AFTER my run. My runs are usually around 600 calories.

Naomi91

hats what i figured jen, i would still say just to get at least a little bit of carbs after :]

jen0619

I am sure I can find a cracker or something miniscule to consume. Thanks

Grokette

60 calories left after your workout? I would say to just get in at least some carbs after, such as some brown rice or crackers. Dont want to risk any sort of muscle break down

so one day of just a tiny bit over wont be too bad :] especially since you will get a little metabolism boost after that sort of run :]

We need protein after working out to prevent muscle breakdown, not carbs.

To the original poster: I would go ahead and eat your meal and tomorrow is a new day!! One day is not going to blow your plan.

jen0619

60 calories left after your workout? I would say to just get in at least some carbs after, such as some brown rice or crackers. Dont want to risk any sort of muscle break down

so one day of just a tiny bit over wont be too bad :] especially since you will get a little metabolism boost after that sort of run :]

We need protein after working out to prevent muscle breakdown, not carbs.

To the original poster: I would go ahead and eat your meal and tomorrow is a new day!! One day is not going to blow your plan.

I have just not had a very good week. Also, I got a cold that hit me fri and is lingering. I didn't workout friday or sunday. So I have had 3 days off this week. I am afraid of going over anymore. I am thinking maybe a slice or two of sandwich meat rolled up with a half a slice of cheese in each?

taso42_DELETED

We need protein after working out to prevent muscle breakdown, not carbs.

Need both actually.

Naomi91

60 calories left after your workout? I would say to just get in at least some carbs after, such as some brown rice or crackers. Dont want to risk any sort of muscle break down

so one day of just a tiny bit over wont be too bad :] especially since you will get a little metabolism boost after that sort of run :]

We need protein after working out to prevent muscle breakdown, not carbs.

To the original poster: I would go ahead and eat your meal and tomorrow is a new day!! One day is not going to blow your plan.

No, for a good run you need carbs. want a 2:1 ratio with carbs and protein. Usually complex carb choices have a bit of protein as well so its no worry. After running you need to refill your glycogen stores in your muscles, which comes from carbs not protein.

Grokette

60 calories left after your workout? I would say to just get in at least some carbs after, such as some brown rice or crackers. Dont want to risk any sort of muscle break down

so one day of just a tiny bit over wont be too bad :] especially since you will get a little metabolism boost after that sort of run :]

We need protein after working out to prevent muscle breakdown, not carbs.

To the original poster: I would go ahead and eat your meal and tomorrow is a new day!! One day is not going to blow your plan.

No, for a good run you need carbs. want a 2:1 ratio with carbs and protein. Usually complex carb choices have a bit of protein as well so its no worry. After running you need to refill your glycogen stores in your muscles, which comes from carbs not protein.

I used to be a runner and I still subscribe to Runners magazines and runners websites..............I guess these websites dedicated to running don't have a clue as to what they are talking about????

Post-Run Recovery Starts with Protein

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=17803

taso42_DELETED

Sorry, can't resist...

I used to be a runner and I still subscribe to Runners magazines and runners websites..............I guess these websites dedicated to running don't have a clue as to what they are talking about????

Post-Run Recovery Starts with Protein

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=17803

LMAO. Great link. Here are some highlights

* The key is taking the right amount at the right time, and not skimping on fluids and carbohydrates in the process.

* Dietitians are careful to note that hydration is still king, followed closely by replenishing carbohydrates, with most studies suggesting a 3:1 or 4:1 carbohydrate-to-protein ratio.

* Protein repairs exercise-induced muscle damage, reduces the response from the stress hormone cortisol and even helps speed glycogen replacement, the goal of taking in carbohydrates

But hey, you're the certified expert

jen0619

I will just have a yummy glass of milk.

taso42_DELETED

I will just have a yummy glass of milk.

Sounds about perfect

jen0619

I will just have a yummy glass of milk.

Sounds about perfect

Thanks

Grokette

Sorry, can't resist...

I used to be a runner and I still subscribe to Runners magazines and runners websites..............I guess these websites dedicated to running don't have a clue as to what they are talking about????

Post-Run Recovery Starts with Protein

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=17803

LMAO. Great link. Here are some highlights

* The key is taking the right amount at the right time, and not skimping on fluids and carbohydrates in the process.

* Dietitians are careful to note that hydration is still king, followed closely by replenishing carbohydrates, with most studies suggesting a 3:1 or 4:1 carbohydrate-to-protein ratio.

* Protein repairs exercise-induced muscle damage, reduces the response from the stress hormone cortisol and even helps speed glycogen replacement, the goal of taking in carbohydrates

But hey, you're the certified expert

The key is that protein is still more important than carbohydrates. Carbs are not as important as everyone makes them out to be.

I know people that do very low carb eating plans and have done so for years and years and are marathon runners.

This is what I practice. I have been fasting after workouts.............

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/post-workout-fasting/

Naomi91

Sorry, can't resist...

I used to be a runner and I still subscribe to Runners magazines and runners websites..............I guess these websites dedicated to running don't have a clue as to what they are talking about????

Post-Run Recovery Starts with Protein

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=17803

LMAO. Great link. Here are some highlights

* The key is taking the right amount at the right time, and not skimping on fluids and carbohydrates in the process.

* Dietitians are careful to note that hydration is still king, followed closely by replenishing carbohydrates, with most studies suggesting a 3:1 or 4:1 carbohydrate-to-protein ratio.

* Protein repairs exercise-induced muscle damage, reduces the response from the stress hormone cortisol and even helps speed glycogen replacement, the goal of taking in carbohydrates

But hey, you're the certified expert

The key is that protein is still more important than carbohydrates. Carbs are not as important as everyone makes them out to be.

I know people that do very low carb eating plans and have done so for years and years and are marathon runners.

This is what I practice. I have been fasting after workouts.............

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/post-workout-fasting/

I also know many people that do low carb diets and have lost a good amount of muscle mass.
And I am also a runner and studying dietetics at my university and specializing in athletics.

I am also a division one athlete with a trainer. Are you telling me he has no idea what he is talking about?
carbs are not something to avoid and are very important in glycogen stores and the recovery proccess

I honestly think you need some more schooling. So maybe you will stop giving out bogus information

Grokette

Sorry, can't resist...

I used to be a runner and I still subscribe to Runners magazines and runners websites..............I guess these websites dedicated to running don't have a clue as to what they are talking about????

Post-Run Recovery Starts with Protein

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=17803

LMAO. Great link. Here are some highlights

* The key is taking the right amount at the right time, and not skimping on fluids and carbohydrates in the process.

* Dietitians are careful to note that hydration is still king, followed closely by replenishing carbohydrates, with most studies suggesting a 3:1 or 4:1 carbohydrate-to-protein ratio.

* Protein repairs exercise-induced muscle damage, reduces the response from the stress hormone cortisol and even helps speed glycogen replacement, the goal of taking in carbohydrates

But hey, you're the certified expert

The key is that protein is still more important than carbohydrates. Carbs are not as important as everyone makes them out to be.

I know people that do very low carb eating plans and have done so for years and years and are marathon runners.

This is what I practice. I have been fasting after workouts.............

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/post-workout-fasting/

I also know many people that do low carb diets and have lost a good amount of muscle mass.
And I am also a runner and studying dietetics at my university and specializing in athletics.

I am also a division one athlete with a trainer. Are you telling me he has no idea what he is talking about?
carbs are not something to avoid and are very important in glycogen stores and the recovery proccess

I honestly think you need some more schooling. So maybe you will stop giving out bogus information

I am not giving out bogus information.

I also know better than to recommend nutritionally void foods such as crackers after a run.

chrisdavey

read this

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/women/post_workout_interview.htm

jknops2

Yes. she is giving out bogus information, check this posting where whe is arguing that lots of eggs and cholesterol is good for you.


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/173938-after-30-years-eggs-are-good-again

After 30 years, Eggs are good again??

Sorry, can't resist...

I used to be a runner and I still subscribe to Runners magazines and runners websites..............I guess these websites dedicated to running don't have a clue as to what they are talking about????

Post-Run Recovery Starts with Protein

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=17803

LMAO. Great link. Here are some highlights

* The key is taking the right amount at the right time, and not skimping on fluids and carbohydrates in the process.

* Dietitians are careful to note that hydration is still king, followed closely by replenishing carbohydrates, with most studies suggesting a 3:1 or 4:1 carbohydrate-to-protein ratio.

* Protein repairs exercise-induced muscle damage, reduces the response from the stress hormone cortisol and even helps speed glycogen replacement, the goal of taking in carbohydrates

But hey, you're the certified expert

The key is that protein is still more important than carbohydrates. Carbs are not as important as everyone makes them out to be.

I know people that do very low carb eating plans and have done so for years and years and are marathon runners.

This is what I practice. I have been fasting after workouts.............

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/post-workout-fasting/

I also know many people that do low carb diets and have lost a good amount of muscle mass.
And I am also a runner and studying dietetics at my university and specializing in athletics.

I am also a division one athlete with a trainer. Are you telling me he has no idea what he is talking about?
carbs are not something to avoid and are very important in glycogen stores and the recovery proccess

I honestly think you need some more schooling. So maybe you will stop giving out bogus information

I am not giving out bogus information.

I also know better than to recommend nutritionally void foods such as crackers after a run.

Grokette

Yes. she is giving out bogus information, check this posting where whe is arguing that lots of eggs and cholesterol is good for you.


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/173938-after-30-years-eggs-are-good-again

After 30 years, Eggs are good again??

Sorry, can't resist...

I used to be a runner and I still subscribe to Runners magazines and runners websites..............I guess these websites dedicated to running don't have a clue as to what they are talking about????

Post-Run Recovery Starts with Protein

http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=17803

LMAO. Great link. Here are some highlights

* The key is taking the right amount at the right time, and not skimping on fluids and carbohydrates in the process.

* Dietitians are careful to note that hydration is still king, followed closely by replenishing carbohydrates, with most studies suggesting a 3:1 or 4:1 carbohydrate-to-protein ratio.

* Protein repairs exercise-induced muscle damage, reduces the response from the stress hormone cortisol and even helps speed glycogen replacement, the goal of taking in carbohydrates

But hey, you're the certified expert

The key is that protein is still more important than carbohydrates. Carbs are not as important as everyone makes them out to be.

I know people that do very low carb eating plans and have done so for years and years and are marathon runners.

This is what I practice. I have been fasting after workouts.............

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/post-workout-fasting/

I also know many people that do low carb diets and have lost a good amount of muscle mass.
And I am also a runner and studying dietetics at my university and specializing in athletics.

I am also a division one athlete with a trainer. Are you telling me he has no idea what he is talking about?
carbs are not something to avoid and are very important in glycogen stores and the recovery proccess

I honestly think you need some more schooling. So maybe you will stop giving out bogus information

I am not giving out bogus information.

I also know better than to recommend nutritionally void foods such as crackers after a run.

I am not giving out bogus informatino. You are saying fallacies and misinformation. You are the only one that said that eggs raise cholesterol, which is untrue.

And there was no arguement by me. I made one comment, which was not argumentative, but in agreeance.

kmeekhof

Protein is MUCH more important in muscle recovery than carbs!!!

Grokette

Protein is MUCH more important in muscle recovery than carbs!!!

Thank You!!!

Naomi91

Me and the OP talk quite a bit, She knows I reccommend Kashi Whole Grain crackers with complex carbs, fiber, and a bit of protein. And low in calories which is what she is looking for. Just a snack.

Cool that you are certified blah blah blah.
I dont see how you are going to help many with the kind of information you are giving out. More like a parrot repeating something you found in a google search.

I can give information that I have learned from instructors at my university, case studies I have read, Studies I have participated in, and personal experience from being an athlete.

Done arguing. kthxbai.

Grokette

Me and the OP talk quite a bit, She knows I reccommend Kashi Whole Grain crackers with complex carbs, fiber, and a bit of protein. And low in calories which is what she is looking for. Just a snack.

Cool that you are certified blah blah blah.
I dont see how you are going to help many with the kind of information you are giving out. More like a parrot repeating something you found in a google search.

I can give information that I have learned from instructors at my university, case studies I have read, Studies I have participated in, and personal experience from being an athlete.

Done arguing. kthxbai.

No, not research I did from googling.

My research number 1 comes from my own experiments. And learning from my Naturopathic Doctor. I will be going to work for their office soon.

Secondly, I read, study and take classes at a Naturopathic school.

I don't subscribe or believe any conventional wisdom that the majority believe.

mideon_696

Please....
2:1 carbs:protein post workout.

if you really want us too...we can spell it out...

TWO To ONE
PROTEIN To CARBS.

lol.

How are you going to replenish your glycogen stores without carbs??
How is your body going to transport and push protein into your muscles efficiently without carbs???

Please, do tell. I really wanna know, so i can stop chasing carbs post workout.

believetoachieve

Damn, people... you're adults - stop acting like children! I read through this thread hoping to get advice and I get an earful (eyeful? lol) of arguments and fighting. Agree to disagree and lets move on to the actual advice. Geez. :grumble:

Grokette

Please....
2:1 carbs:protein post workout.

if you really want us too...we can spell it out...

TWO To ONE
PROTEIN To CARBS.

lol.

How are you going to replenish your glycogen stores without carbs??
How is your body going to transport and push protein into your muscles efficiently without carbs???

Please, do tell. I really wanna know, so i can stop chasing carbs post workout.

Actually, protein can be converted into glycogen through a process called Glycogenesis, which is processed in the liver.

We don't need carbs other than vegetables and some fruit. As previously mentioned, I know people that are very, very low carb, very athletic and muscular and are marathon runners.

Grokette

Damn, people... you're adults - stop acting like children! I read through this thread hoping to get advice and I get an earful (eyeful? lol) of arguments and fighting. Agree to disagree and lets move on to the actual advice. Geez. :grumble:

I am not arguing. I am debating the fact that everyone says after workouts that blah, blah, blah xxx amount of carbs are needed, when in fact they are not needed.

Debating is good. The old research that is taught in the main stream universities that gets so much funding from the federal government does not mean that it is right.

I have learned far more from real life experience along with taking classes through Holistic School and Naturopathic Universities.

I have my doctor to back me up who is also my own Health Coach.