Be a HELP not a HINDRANCE!

erickirb

My doctor said for me to eat 1200 calories, and I don't have to eat those exercise calories. If I eat 1200 calories, that keeps my body from ever going into Starvation mode. I can exercise all those calories away and have enough fat to fuel my body. I totally agree with this post!!

So you can eat 1200 cals, burn 1200 from exercise and another 2000 from normal daily activity and be fine, I doubt it. That would be a daily deficit of 3200 cals, which would be a pound every 28-32 hours, way too fast of a loss. Most doctors have very little nutrition training.

ladyhawk00

There isn't ONE person on planet earth who is officially obese who is exercising a ton and eating 800 to 1000 calories per day and on a plateau.

Just because someone has a large amount to lose does NOT mean that losing at a faster rate or eating insufficient amounts to obtain necessary nutrition is HEALTHY. Yes, an obese person can withstand a larger deficit, but losing weight too fast has MANY adverse effects - gallbladder problems, liver problems, issues with hair, issues with menstrual cycle, skin flaps - and the most common - NOT keeping it off.

MFP is designed to assist everyone - even obese people - with healthy weight loss. Not crash diets. Saying that encouraging people to eat a healthy amount of healthy food is giving them an "excuse to overeat" is simply ignorant.

Please educate yourself on the hazards of rapid weight loss and Low Calorie Diets/Very Low Calorie Diets (especially without the supervision of a doctor/dietician) and how metabolism works. Faster is not better.

mallorybriann

For one month I have been doing fitness boot camp and eating less. I did not lose a POUND that whole month! Here I am working my booty off everyday and eating better and I saw no difference on the scale/measurements.
I was not eating enough. I was at 1400 cals per day and burning about 500+ at boot camp. So my net was 900 calories.
This week I upped my cals to 1600 per day and made sure to keep my net around 1600 and TA-DA I lost weight, first time in a month. I am eating more and losing weight!

JHoersten2

The problem is that you're ignorant in your calorie goal structure. Obviously you don't understand what MFP is doing, and you create your own theories to suit that ignorance.

If your goal is to lose 2 lbs per week, and you have set MFP to reflect that, then YES, you eat your exercise calories back. Let's dumb this down so you can understand, and I'll use myself as an example:

My body needs 2,710 calories/day to maintain weight. ZERO weight loss.

My MFP goal is 1,710 calories/day to LOSE 2 lbs per week.

If I exercise 500 calories, and eat my goal, I'll be at 1,210 calories. THIS IS BELOW MY GOAL OF 2 LBS PER WEEK. Losing massive quantities of weight per week us UNHEALTHY. Not only that, but you generally gain it back when you stop your low-calorie intake. Why? Because you're body is trying to conserve the fats due to needing 2,710 calories per day.

SO, and follow along, because this is what you dont understand, I eat my exercise calories back, putting me at 1,710 per day. This enables 2 lbs per week lost and a stable, healthy diet.

Please stop influencing others that they need to cut every calorie from their diet and drain their body of nutrients. You're doing more harm than good, and hurting people in the process. You don't understand this system, and I get that, but before you start spewing fitness and dietary information, get a degree in it. Thanks. Before you even try to question MY credentials, I'm simply spelling out the processes of this website. It's common sense, so use some logic.

we're looking for all the excuses we can to continue to do that. I'm tired. I dont have time. My whatever hurts. I dont want to go into STARVATION mode.

Those are YOUR excuses, not ours. Don't generalize overweight people. I'm overweight, and I'm hitting the gym every day. In fact, I look forward to it and plan accordingly. If you have problems getting motivated to lose weight, do work, eat right, etc., perhaps that's something you need to examine on a personal level. MFP has many great people who have embraced their goals to succeed and aren't moping around their house feeling sorry for themselves.

MrsSanthoff

My doctor said for me to eat 1200 calories, and I don't have to eat those exercise calories. If I eat 1200 calories, that keeps my body from ever going into Starvation mode. I can exercise all those calories away and have enough fat to fuel my body. I totally agree with this post!!

I like the doctors advice over hundreds of confused people. I agree with you. You need fuel but I want my body taking some of that fat and using it as fuel too! :happy:

hpsnickers1

This post really made me laugh. Everytime I see that eat your calories back I think not a chance. I need to lose so much weight that any cal deficiet is needed. Also staration mode, I firmly believe that it would not happen until several weeks if even then. I love this site and i dont think anyone means to be harmful...

Actually "starvation mode" starts after a few days to a week. But yes it is true that obese people can get away with more of a calorie deficit than the smaller people. 1-2 lbs a week is the safest way to lose weight.

And the BMR that MFP gives you is what you would burn just sitting all day. It doesn't factor anything in except your Activity Level. So even your BMR has a calorie deficiency.

I'm 5'2" and 124 pounds. I did a test with my HRM. I kept it on for 24 hours. I didn't exercise that day. I sat in front of the TV all evening. I burned and estimate of 2300 calories that day.

mallorybriann

BRAVO!!!!!!

The problem is that you're ignorant in your calorie goal structure. Obviously you don't understand what MFP is doing, and you create your own theories to suit that ignorance.

If your goal is to lose 2 lbs per week, and you have set MFP to reflect that, then YES, you eat your exercise calories back. Let's dumb this down so you can understand, and I'll use myself as an example:

My body needs 2,710 calories/day to maintain weight. ZERO weight loss.

My MFP goal is 1,710 calories/day to LOSE 2 lbs per week.

If I exercise 500 calories, and eat my goal, I'll be at 1,210 calories. THIS IS BELOW MY GOAL OF 2 LBS PER WEEK. Losing massive quantities of weight per week us UNHEALTHY. Not only that, but you generally gain it back when you stop your low-calorie intake. Why? Because you're body is trying to conserve the fats due to needing 2,710 calories per day.

SO, and follow along, because this is what you dont understand, I eat my exercise calories back, putting me at 1,710 per day. This enables 2 lbs per week lost and a stable, healthy diet.

Please stop influencing others that they need to cut every calorie from their diet and drain their body of nutrients. You're doing more harm than good, and hurting people in the process. You don't understand this system, and I get that, but before you start spewing fitness and dietary information, get a degree in it. Thanks. Before you even try to question MY credentials, I'm simply spelling out the processes of this website. It's common sense, so use some logic.

kjensen15

what works for you dosent work for everyone

Exactly! You have to find what works for YOUR body. If you're morbidly obese, over weight, or just hanging on to a few vanity pounds no one body reacts to food and excercise the same way. I'm wanting to lose a few "vantity pounds" but I find it hard to shed anything if I eat back all my excercise calories. However, I've seen people my exact size, weight, and age that can eat 1800 calories while excercising and drop weight. I just can't do it that way! So really I think everyone on here needs to not lump people together and assume that the same things will work for everyone!

skinnyme125

Starvation mode does NOT mean that you are starving. It means that your body is used to getting so many calories a day and when you cut that back you can not cut it back beyond what it needs to function properly and give you engergy and a clear mind through the day. When you burn more than you are aloted then your body will think it is starving and start storing as many calories that it can. This is why heavier people need to eat more calories than the skinnier ones. They need more to maintain there energy. It takes alot more energy to move around a 200lb person or larger than it does to move around a 150lb person. It is simple. Yes once your body hits starvation mode it will then eventually give up on you providing it with what it needs and start taking it from the place it will get the most energy. Guess what that wont be the fat. It will be your muscle and that is real bad on the heart. This will also cause your body to go into ketosis. NOT GOOD> Please if you want to lose weight and do it in a healthy way do it like MFP says to do it. They are right and do know what they are talking about. I think what you said about the DR. is off as well. IF you are really honest with him or her they will tell you that you need a certain amount of calories to stay healthy. LOsing wieght too fast is unhalthy and damaging to your body. YOu will always gain it back doing it that way as it is not something you can maintain for life without it killing you eventually. Talk to a nutritionist if you don't believe me.

hpsnickers1

There isn't ONE person on planet earth who is officially obese who is exercising a ton and eating 800 to 1000 calories per day and on a plateau.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/3047-700-calories-a-day-and-not-losing

MrsSanthoff

The problem is that you're ignorant in your calorie goal structure. Obviously you don't understand what MFP is doing, and you create your own theories to suit that ignorance.

If your goal is to lose 2 lbs per week, and you have set MFP to reflect that, then YES, you eat your exercise calories back. Let's dumb this down so you can understand, and I'll use myself as an example:

My body needs 2,710 calories/day to maintain weight. ZERO weight loss.

My MFP goal is 1,710 calories/day to LOSE 2 lbs per week.

If I exercise 500 calories, and eat my goal, I'll be at 1,210 calories. THIS IS BELOW MY GOAL OF 2 LBS PER WEEK. Losing massive quantities of weight per week us UNHEALTHY. Not only that, but you generally gain it back when you stop your low-calorie intake. Why? Because you're body is trying to conserve the fats due to needing 2,710 calories per day.

SO, and follow along, because this is what you dont understand, I eat my exercise calories back, putting me at 1,710 per day. This enables 2 lbs per week lost and a stable, healthy diet.

Please stop influencing others that they need to cut every calorie from their diet and drain their body of nutrients. You're doing more harm than good, and hurting people in the process. You don't understand this system, and I get that, but before you start spewing fitness and dietary information, get a degree in it. Thanks. Before you even try to question MY credentials, I'm simply spelling out the processes of this website. It's common sense, so use some logic.

we're looking for all the excuses we can to continue to do that. I'm tired. I dont have time. My whatever hurts. I dont want to go into STARVATION mode.

Those are YOUR excuses, not ours. Don't generalize overweight people. I'm overweight, and I'm hitting the gym every day. In fact, I look forward to it and plan accordingly. If you have problems getting motivated to lose weight, do work, eat right, etc., perhaps that's something you need to examine on a personal level. MFP has many great people who have embraced their goals to succeed and aren't moping around their house feeling sorry for themselves.

Wow, really...you feel the need to be that mean and rude? It's just her opinion...why don't you hang her for it.

SHIRLEYW02

I AM NEW 2WK ON THIS MFP ,I AM SUPPOSE EAT 1200 DAILY !MY FIRST WEEK I LOST 5 PDS,I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT EATING BACK CALORIES FROM EXERCISE!I WANT TO LOSE 2-3 PDS A WK. I AM SCARE IF I EAT EXTRA CALORIES I WOULD GAIN!HELP.I JUST DON'T GET IT !

erickirb

My doctor said for me to eat 1200 calories, and I don't have to eat those exercise calories. If I eat 1200 calories, that keeps my body from ever going into Starvation mode. I can exercise all those calories away and have enough fat to fuel my body. I totally agree with this post!!

I like the doctors advice over hundreds of confused people. I agree with you. You need fuel but I want my body taking some of that fat and using it as fuel too! :happy:

doctors are not nutrition specialist . Most med. prof. would tell you to eat 1600 plus exercise which is good if you burn 300 cals then your net is still 1300 (1600-300) but 1200 plus exercising is only going to hurt you unless you are like 4'10 or so.

hpsnickers1

My doctor said for me to eat 1200 calories, and I don't have to eat those exercise calories. If I eat 1200 calories, that keeps my body from ever going into Starvation mode. I can exercise all those calories away and have enough fat to fuel my body. I totally agree with this post!!

I like the doctors advice over hundreds of confused people. I agree with you. You need fuel but I want my body taking some of that fat and using it as fuel too! :happy:

That's just it. You want your body to start using some of your stored fat as fuel but if you cut the calories too much then your body will stop burning fat, hang on to any fat you are eating and eventually start eating into your lean muscle mass for it's fuel.

ladyhawk00

I AM NEW 2WK ON THIS MFP ,I AM SUPPOSE EAT 1200 DAILY !MY FIRST WEEK I LOST 5 PDS,I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT EATING BACK CALORIES FROM EXERCISE!I WANT TO LOSE 2-3 PDS A WK. I AM SCARE IF I EAT EXTRA CALORIES I WOULD GAIN!HELP.I JUST DON'T GET IT !

Please read these threads about metabolism and why you need to fuel your body. MUST READS!

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/61706-guide-to-calorie-deficits

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/3047-700-calories-a-day-and-not-losing

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/173853-an-objective-look-at-eating-exercise-calories

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/153704-myth-or-fact-simple-math-3500-calories-one-pound-eat

hpsnickers1

I AM NEW 2WK ON THIS MFP ,I AM SUPPOSE EAT 1200 DAILY !MY FIRST WEEK I LOST 5 PDS,I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT EATING BACK CALORIES FROM EXERCISE!I WANT TO LOSE 2-3 PDS A WK. I AM SCARE IF I EAT EXTRA CALORIES I WOULD GAIN!HELP.I JUST DON'T GET IT !

you lost water weight.

JHoersten2

My doctor said for me to eat 1200 calories, and I don't have to eat those exercise calories. If I eat 1200 calories, that keeps my body from ever going into Starvation mode. I can exercise all those calories away and have enough fat to fuel my body. I totally agree with this post!!

So if you eat 1200 calories a day, then exercise 1200 calories a day, you'll be ok? Because at that point, your body gets NOTHING. Not 1 calorie of nourishment.

You know what happens when you get no nourishment and your body eats away at stored fat? THAT'S CALLED STARVATION. Your body eats itself to continue to survive. This site suggests eating slightly less than your body burns throughout the day so you can stay nourished, and lose weight. Personally, I'd find a new doctor.

HeatherShrinking

Eating back exercise calories is called MAINTAINING.

I think you are misinformed. Like others have said on here, MFP calculates your calorie deficit. Even if you eat back all your exercise calories, your MFP calculated deficit is still there. If you eat up until your BMR calories, that is maintaining.

I really don't think anyone here is trying to sabotage anyone or is being mean by telling people to eat back their calories...

If you are really concerned about people being mean, take a step back an re-read your own post. Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but asking the "ONE hundred and anything" people to be kind to the poor obese people is very insulting.

Oh, and my medically trained nutritionist did tell me (an obese person) to eat back my exercise calories to avoid being under 1200 calories a day. I do that with healthy foods (shocker huh? an obese person choosing healthy foods! ) and I have been losing.

AmeMahoney

With Clean Eating, I don't have to worry about calories and still lose weight. I don't plan to eat my exercise calories or not - I just eat my 5-6 meals a day, and I really don't have to worry if they add up to 1500, 1700, or 2000 calories. And all the while I lose weight because I'm eating wholesome, nutritious food. Everyone else can argue for/against either way. I'll just sit over here.

hpsnickers1

My doctor said for me to eat 1200 calories, and I don't have to eat those exercise calories. If I eat 1200 calories, that keeps my body from ever going into Starvation mode. I can exercise all those calories away and have enough fat to fuel my body. I totally agree with this post!!

but if you exercise then you are going below 1200 calories. Say you burn 400 - that will put you at 800 which is on your way to a starvation diet.