Starvation mode question

rascal21

How will I know if my body is beginning to go into starvation mode? Will I just stop losing weight? The reason I ask is that I am generally not hungry, but I am all but forcing myself to eat to make it to the 1200/day. My diet has gone from ridiculous (Fast food 5-7 times per week) to extremely healthy (1 trip to mcds in 60 days). and I have lost 17 lbs. Now i have a new step aerobics video that kicks my butt, and according to my HRM, burns over 1000 calories in the hour I am working out. So that means that I am keeping about 200 calories of what i ate for the day, and that is not counting the amount that I burn just by living...The step aerobics video is new, and I have done it 3 for days, before I continue, I want to make sure I am not killing myself just so i have to eat more.

Am i doing okay, or should I be eating more?

benitocereno

Yes, you should be eating more .

1200 calories is your net for the day, if you're doing 1000 calories burned a day, you should be eating 2200 calories (on the days you work out, of course!). You shouldn't be forcing yourself to eat either, that's a sign that you're either eating too little or have imposed psychological restrictions on yourself, neither of which are healthy! That said, starvation mode doesn't really set on that fast, but if you continue what you're currently doing there is no doubt you're going to hit it and feel pretty miserable.

If you're having trouble getting your calories try calorie dense foods - olive oil, nuts, bread, etc. 2200 calories is nothing if you make the right food choices . Remember your diet is about being sustainable, if you're netting 200 calories a day I promise you are going to stall and get frustrated. Slow and steady wins the race, and you're going to look great too since you're exercising so much!

juldga

Below is the link to the actual thread so you can read the full post by Coach Dean.

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Here is part of Coach Dean's post:

Since there is so much confusion about the idea of starvation mode here on the message boards, I've been working on a little quiz people can use to sort out some of the common misconceptions.
Here are some of the common statements you'll see/hear about starvation mode, and an explanation of whether they are true or false, and why:


1. The larger the deficit between the number of calories you eat and the number of calories you need to maintain a normal weight, the faster your body will take fat out of storage and burn it as energy.



FALSE.

Excessive calorie restriction actually slows down your metabolic rate (the calories you use just to keep all your necessary bodily functions operating)—often by as much as 40%, according to several studies. This can amount to as much as 400-800 fewer calories burned per day, which is definitely enough to make your weight loss go slower than your calorie deficit numbers say it should. But this drop in metabolic rate is not enough to stop weight loss or fat loss completely (otherwise it would be impossible for people to starve).
The real problem is that it can and does change where the lost weight comes from. While moderate calorie restriction allows your body to get most of the additional energy it needs from your stored fat, severe calorie restriction forces it to use the energy stored in your muscles and organs to a much greater degree, which can be debilitating and even fatal in cases of true starvation. Since your muscle and lean organ tissues are the real calorie burners in your body, the more of it you lose, the less you can eat without gaining weight and the harder it becomes to lose fat.
This also explains why people who lose weight with semi-starvation diets almost inevitably regain all that weight and more when they return to normal eating levels—and it doesn’t come back as muscle or organ tissue, it comes back as fat.







2. If you consistently eat less than 1200 calories per day (1500 for men), your body will go into starvation mode.



FALSE.

Although there are important reasons why people shouldn’t go below these minimum calorie intake levels (see Question 6 below), there is no single level of calorie intake that determines when people will shift into “starvation mode.”
What determines this is the difference between your calorie intake and your needs, which varies for everyone depending on factors like size, age, gender, health factors, and activity level. Also, your individual genetics play a large role in how quickly and how strongly your body responds to extreme calorie deprivation.
In most cases, a starvation-level diet is one that persistently provides less than 50% of the energy you would need to maintain your ideal weight at your normal activity level. That could be quite a bit more or less than 1200 calories, depending on individual factors, and it will normally take more than an occasional day of going too low on calories to cause problems.




3. Less overweight individuals will lose a larger percentage of lean muscle and organ tissue and less fat than obese individuals, when they restrict calorie intake too severely.


TRUE.

Evidence indicates that people with a Body Mass Index of 30 or less will lose their lean body mass more quickly and easily than people with a BMI over 30 (obese).
To a large extent, this is just common sense—people with less fat to lose will lose more of their weight from other sources if they force the issue through excessive calorie restriction.
But there also may be biological mechanisms that cause people with less total body fat to rely more on protein stored as lean tissue during excessive calorie deprivation.
In any case, it’s clear that the less weight you have to lose, the more important it is to avoid excessive calorie restriction and rapid weight loss.



4. Regular strength training and cardio exercise can prevent the excessive loss of lean body tissue, even when calories are restricted too severely.


FALSE.

It’s true that strength training and other exercise will minimize the loss of lean muscle and maximize the loss of body fat, when individuals restrict calorie intake moderately. The combination of moderate calorie restriction (enough to lose one half to 2 pounds per week, depending on your starting weight) and regular strength training can reduce lean muscle loss from 25% of total weight lost (normal, when exercise is not included) to 3-5%.
However, this muscle protecting effect of exercise is mostly lost when calorie deficits become too extreme, because there are not enough resources available to support muscle recovery or, eventually, to fuel the necessary exercise activity.



5. It’s OK to have a very large deficit between calories in and calories out, as long as most of the deficit comes from lots of extra cardio exercise and not from eating too little.


FALSE.


Since the trigger for starvation mode problems is having too much of a difference between what you need and what you take in, it really doesn’t matter how that deficit gets created.
In fact, excessive cardio exercise can actually increase the problem of breaking down muscle tissue to obtain needed energy, because your body can’t use much fat as energy when you are working out at higher intensity levels. It must rely mainly on glucose, and if your diet doesn’t provide enough energy to fuel this extra exercise, or replenish your muscle glycogen fuel tanks between bouts of exercise, your body has no choice but to start breaking down the protein in your muscles and organs so it can be converted into glucose to fuel your activity.



6. Which of the following is a likely negative effect of going below 1200 calories per day, for women, or 1500 for men?

“ You probably will not get the right combination of vitamins, minerals, other micronutrients, fiber, and macronutrients (carbs, fats, protein) you need to maintain good health and adequate energy levels for your daily activity.

“ You may begin to suffer significant psychological and physical problems, including obsession with food and eating, agitation, stress-related hormonal imbalances, sleep and mood disturbances, difficulties with concentration and attention, and fatigue.

“ You may compromise the functioning of your immune system, making it more likely that you’ll catch colds and flus, be more susceptible to long-term problems associated with inflammatory processes (like atherosclerosis), and experience other avoidable health problems.

“ All of the above.

All OF THE ABOVE.


Although your individual trigger point for starvation mode problems may be above or below SP’s minimum recommended calorie intake level, there’s not much doubt that just about everyone will have problems meeting their nutritional needs if they let their calorie intake drop below these levels consistently.
Even at these minimum levels it can be hard to maintain good nutrition without being very strict about limiting empty calories and making well-informed food choices.
And remember—“healthy” means more than just keeping your carbs, fat and protein within recommended ranges for weight loss. There are many micronutrients necessary for optimal health and well-being that aren’t shown on food labels—like all the phytochemicals, bioflavonoids, catechins, and other substances found in specific fruits and vegetables, that enhance immunity, defend against the negative effects of stress, promote emotional well being—and keep your body firing on all cylinders so you can efficiently burn that fat you want to lose.



7. The best dieting strategy for avoiding starvation mode problems, maximizing your fat loss, and keeping the weight off permanently is to eat and exercise as if you’ve already reached your goal weight and are trying to maintain that weight with a healthy lifestyle.

TRUE.

If you want to be a success in the permanent weight loss game, this is by far the best strategy to follow.
Figure out how much a person your age, gender, and height, who weighs what you want to weigh, would need to eat in order to maintain that weight if s/he is doing the amount of exercise and daily activity you think you can live with on a long term basis. Then start doing all that—right now.
Your calculation should include your BMR at your goal weight, plus about 20% of that for regular daily activity, plus whatever additional calories you expect to burn with exercise.
You’ll probably need to experiment a little to get the numbers dialled in right for you.

There are a few possible complications that some people may run into with this simple formula. For example, if you have a lot of weight to lose (say, 75 pounds or more), cutting your calorie intake down to the amount you’d need for maintenance at your goal weight may make your calorie deficit at the beginning too large.
Ideally, your calorie deficit should not exceed 1000 calories per day by very much, if you’re not under medical supervision, and the difference in calories needed to maintain your goal weight versus your current weight may be more than that. If so, you may need to pick an intermediate goal weight that is higher your final goal, and use that to do your math until you’ve lost some weight.

Likewise, if you’re already very close to your goal weight, you may need to eat a little less than your estimated maintenance level, just to make something happen.
There’s just not much difference in the numbers when the difference between current and goal weight is only 5 pounds. But don’t make the mistake of thinking you can try to lose 2 pounds per week. Think in terms of aiming for a deficit of about 250 calories per day.


If you’re the impatient sort, your biggest challenge here may be finding the patience to settle for whatever rate of weight loss this approach lets you achieve. But in the long run, you’ll be glad you did. Honest.


Hope this helps.

Coach Dean

kevbrinks

If I were you, I would look at the rate that you have lost that 17 pounds. Have you lost it at a rate of about 1 or 2 lbs per week? If so, I would eat back those calories you burn from your aerobics. You will still continue to lose weight at the rate you have been...once you start plateauing, THEN lower your intake 200-300 calories.

If you are still steadily losing weight at a good rate, then don't try to fix something that isn't broken.

KanCrav

I dont know too much about how the body works, but I have learned a few things. It is important to eat at least 1200 a day and your exercise cals (as much as you can). I know it seems like alot but you can get good cals from things like nuts, milk, healthy oils... etc. I spin twice a week and burn somewhere between 500 and 1000 and I cant eat those back, but I try. Just do what you can and try to keep as close to your goal as possible. Your 1200 is already at a deficit so eating your exercise cals back is not going to hurt you.

Good luck~!

princesschikee

I'm a strong believer in eating 5 small meals everyday with each meal consisting of carbs, protein, and fat. It looks as though you should spread out your protein a little bit more throughout the day. Doing this keeps your body energized and won't be hitting any of those mid day slumps.
You are more than welcome to take a look at my food diary.
I know it's tough when you have a lot of info coming at you, but sift through it. Something will suit what you are looking for.
I also think that 30 minutes of cardio 4-5 days a week is optimal with at least 3 days of weight lifting. Sounds like an awful lot of cardio you are doing., but that's just me.

mrsknotts

I recently asked a similar question regarding the calories I burn. From the info I gathered you should eat some of those calories back, I still cant eat all of them but you should attempt to drink a protein shake, have a handfull of nuts or cheese something small but high in calories to help make up the difference. I asked that question because I had stalled out my weight loss and began to gain weight because my body was holding on to every morsel I ate. It never knew when I was going to replace those calories

rascal21

Okay, any of you that commented, please take a look at my food for the day, and tell me if it's close enough. I feel like I just stuffed myself with a tuna salad sandwich, cottage cheese and an apple....

I don't think I am going to be able to add much to this menu today, and I am still 240 calories short....

benitocereno

I just looked at today, but it really doesn't look bad. You don't necessarily need to eat more, just different

You could do things like sub out your low-calorie bread for normal bread and you'd be at your goal. You can also use normal or reduced fat mayo instead of fat-free, or do something like use a normal/non-low-fat cheese.

Besides that it looks pretty good! The other thing you can do, if you don't want full-fat stuff around the house, is just buy something like a big tin of cashews. A handful of cashews is ~160 calories if I recall correctly; they're very dense and make it easy to catch up.

Or... you can be like me and just have a beer