Super Size Me vs Fat Head

EmCarroll1990

If people truly believe McDonald's is healthy, I'm sorry, but they're total idiots. It's common sense that fast food is not good for you. End of story.

Phrak

If people truly believe McDonald's is healthy, I'm sorry, but they're total idiots. It's common sense that fast food is not good for you. End of story.

Maybe not for people with low daily calorie allowances. But for someone like me, i can get all my healthy foods and still have room for a fast food burger. Its all about context.

k8blujay2

So I watched Fat Head last night. It was a movie trying to disprove Super Size Me. They did a pretty good job at it (showing that Morgan's calories just didn't add up to what he said they were), but I did disagree with some of the stuff they said. They said that people aren't stupid and that everyone knows that McDonald's isn't good for you.

Well I beg to differ because I know PLENTY of people (and argued with many as well) that say that McDonalds is perfectly healthy, and they say most fried foods are as well. He tried to make a point by showing that when the clerk asked him if he "wanted fries with that" that he simply said "No, thank you." and then he looked at the camera and goes "See, it's as easy as that." Well, no it's not, sir. Not for people who are addicted to food. It might be easy for HIM, but it may not be "that easy" for some other people.

Have any of you seen this movie (or both Super Size Me AND this movie [Fat Head]??). I ended up having to turn it off because he started pissing me off by saying that everyone on Earth has that common sense that McDonald's isn't good for you. Well, no, not everyone does.

Opinions??

I think for the most part people DO know that McDonalds (and other fastfood) isn't good for you. However, I think the perpetuated cost effectiveness is what is "making" people eat there... they think they are saving money by eating there... which just isn't the case.

EmCarroll1990

If people truly believe McDonald's is healthy, I'm sorry, but they're total idiots. It's common sense that fast food is not good for you. End of story.

Maybe not for people with low daily calorie allowances. But for someone like me, i can get all my healthy foods and still have room for a fast food burger. Its all about context.

I'm totally confused here, just because something fits into your calorie allowance doesn't make it healthy. Also, I am totally not preaching as I'm just as guilty of loving fast foods as much as the next chick, but I'm not delusional enough to believe it's good for me.

Phrak

If people truly believe McDonald's is healthy, I'm sorry, but they're total idiots. It's common sense that fast food is not good for you. End of story.

Maybe not for people with low daily calorie allowances. But for someone like me, i can get all my healthy foods and still have room for a fast food burger. Its all about context.

I'm totally confused here, just because something fits into your calorie allowance doesn't make it healthy. Also, I am totally not preaching as I'm just as guilty of loving fast foods as much as the next chick, but I'm not delusional enough to believe it's good for me.

What is specifically "unhealthy" about a fast food burger? You might have a case for preservatives. But to the body a burger from mcdonalds is still made up of protein, fat and carbs, the same as if you were to make a burger at home.

EmCarroll1990

If people truly believe McDonald's is healthy, I'm sorry, but they're total idiots. It's common sense that fast food is not good for you. End of story.

Maybe not for people with low daily calorie allowances. But for someone like me, i can get all my healthy foods and still have room for a fast food burger. Its all about context.

I'm totally confused here, just because something fits into your calorie allowance doesn't make it healthy. Also, I am totally not preaching as I'm just as guilty of loving fast foods as much as the next chick, but I'm not delusional enough to believe it's good for me.

What is specifically "unhealthy" about a fast food burger? You might have a case for preservatives. But to the body a burger from mcdonalds is still made up of protein, fat and carbs, the same as if you were to make a burger at home.

Not quite. I could make a burger at home for way less of the calories than McDonald's has in their's. Please also note, I am referring to fast food in a whole, not just specifically a burger.

Antigone

If it was so easy to "just say no" then we wouldn't have as many overweight people in this country. Or drug addicts for that matter!

It's more than just "saying no". I think for most people, by the time they are in the door they figure, "Hey, I'm eating like crap no matter what here, might as well enjoy some fries too!" For me, I just avoid going into fast food joints alltogether. I haven't been to a McDonalds in MONTHS but I'm pretty sure the last time I did, I had fries.

Antigone

If people truly believe McDonald's is healthy, I'm sorry, but they're total idiots. It's common sense that fast food is not good for you. End of story.

Maybe not for people with low daily calorie allowances. But for someone like me, i can get all my healthy foods and still have room for a fast food burger. Its all about context.

I'm totally confused here, just because something fits into your calorie allowance doesn't make it healthy. Also, I am totally not preaching as I'm just as guilty of loving fast foods as much as the next chick, but I'm not delusional enough to believe it's good for me.

What is specifically "unhealthy" about a fast food burger? You might have a case for preservatives. But to the body a burger from mcdonalds is still made up of protein, fat and carbs, the same as if you were to make a burger at home.

At home I make turkey burgers with all organic veggies and a lettuce "bun" or else use Daves Killer bread which is whole grain and has a healthy amount of fiber. I think they are actually BETTER that McDonalds burger and FAR better for you. I'd bet is has FAR less heart killing saturated fat also.

EmCarroll1990

If it was so easy to "just say no" then we wouldn't have as many overweight people in this country. Or drug addicts for that matter!

It's more than just "saying no". I think for most people, by the time they are in the door they figure, "Hey, I'm eating like crap no matter what here, might as well enjoy some fries too!" For me, I just avoid going into fast food joints alltogether. I haven't been to a McDonalds in MONTHS but I'm pretty sure the last time I did, I had fries.

I honestly, cannot say no to McDonald's fries. They smell and taste so darn good.

Acg67

If people truly believe McDonald's is healthy, I'm sorry, but they're total idiots. It's common sense that fast food is not good for you. End of story.

Maybe not for people with low daily calorie allowances. But for someone like me, i can get all my healthy foods and still have room for a fast food burger. Its all about context.

I'm totally confused here, just because something fits into your calorie allowance doesn't make it healthy. Also, I am totally not preaching as I'm just as guilty of loving fast foods as much as the next chick, but I'm not delusional enough to believe it's good for me.

What is specifically "unhealthy" about a fast food burger? You might have a case for preservatives. But to the body a burger from mcdonalds is still made up of protein, fat and carbs, the same as if you were to make a burger at home.

At home I make turkey burgers with all organic veggies and a lettuce "bun" or else use Daves Killer bread which is whole grain and has a healthy amount of fiber. I think they are actually BETTER that McDonalds burger and FAR better for you. I'd bet is has FAR less heart killing saturated fat also.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html

mewalker3

I know I'm late on this thread, but at the end of the documentary he specifically says "this isn't a good idea, it's just to show that fast food isn't responsible for obesity". The point isn't that fast food is good, the point is that sugars and high carb diets spike blood sugar which makes you more likely to store fat. It doesn't matter where you get the food, it's what you are eating.

Acg67

I know I'm late on this thread, but at the end of the documentary he specifically says "this isn't a good idea, it's just to show that fast food isn't responsible for obesity". The point isn't that fast food is good, the point is that sugars and high carb diets spike blood sugar which makes you more likely to store fat. It doesn't matter where you get the food, it's how much are eating.

Corrected it for you

emilygmcallister

I think you all should see Fathead. It very logical. You can't really have an opinion unless you watch it.

SeaRunner26

My body found a very good solution. I've not eaten fast food (e.g. McDonalds, Jack in the Box, Dairy Queen, etc.) for many years with an exception every once in a while. Now, when I want it, I find I look forward to it at the time but then feel very sick afterwards from all the fat and then have no cravings for it. So my body has basically trained me to avoid it.

TheVimFuego

I've seen both, I've read both the Taubes books, I even bought into the whole carbs are driving insulin is driving fat idea for a while.

I did the low carb/keto thing for a while. I still gained (unwanted) fat eventually ... And on not a great number of calories either ...

After further reading I don't believe the carbs/insulin/fat thing is anywhere near the whole deal, it was persuasive at the time but as others have said, it's more cherry picking.

Both movies are OK entertainment, both are fundamentally flawed.

There speaketh someone with a Fat Head t-shirt

TheVimFuego

I think you all should see Fathead. It very logical. You can't really have an opinion unless you watch it.

Seems like he has it all wrapped up doesn't he? ...

Kymmu

If it was so easy to "just say no" then we wouldn't have as many overweight people in this country. Or drug addicts for that matter!

It's more than just "saying no". I think for most people, by the time they are in the door they figure, "Hey, I'm eating like crap no matter what here, might as well enjoy some fries too!" For me, I just avoid going into fast food joints alltogether. I haven't been to a McDonalds in MONTHS but I'm pretty sure the last time I did, I had fries.

I honestly, cannot say no to McDonald's fries. They smell and taste so darn good.

that's the opposite to me- they smell like someone who doesn't wash their greasy hair - ughh *shudder** !!

Mitzimum

I actually enjoyed Fat Head, we watched it just the other night. I'm not addicted to food so I guess I'm not a good one to be answering. I can say no to something I know is bad for me and I can also make healthy choices, even when bad ones are staring me in the face.

agreed!
Also i have seen both, i actually watched both in a row and to be honest i get what supersize me is saying but with fat head it wasn't so much a focus on saying 'no' as a focus on the fact that fat is not the problem in weight loss but refined carbs are. If you haven't seen fat head its definitely worth a watch. I have since lowered my refined carbs and consequently lost nearly twice as much in the same amount of time as when i was on low calorie.

melindasuefritz

never seen either one

SerenaFisher

I haven't watched either, I may watch "Fat Head" now. I had no desire to watch "Super size me" after hearing what the guy ate from a friend I realized the documentary was a waste of time. Yes if you buy a huge amount of food, three times a day, and eat it you will get fat and unhealthy especially if the food isn't the healthiest choice. I said myself when somebody told me about it that I could eat McDonalds and lose weight. Its no secret, as someone already said essentially eat a lot and gain weight, eat at a calorie deficit and lose weight. Nothing new there.


As for people not knowing McDonalds is unhealthy? I feel (as was also stated prior) many know it isn't the beat choice but choose to eat it anyway. I enjoy an Angus burger, or big Mac now and then, sometimes I go for breakfast... do I think its a better option then cooking at home? No. But its nice not to cook

savoiaS1

I love both Docs and they are both correct to an extent. Bottom line of both. Calories/Macros in vs Calories/macros out. Determines scale weight. The overall health benefits is more logical in Supersize Me tho.