If I eat too much fat but yet stay in caloric range???

deksgrl

2011 thread on fat, proof that even Zombies need fat in their diet.

thanson563

I am having the same problem.... never go over my calories but ALWAYS over for my sugars!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same here....I stay within the calorie limit but am almost always over on sugar AND fat. Clearly I need to eat healthier foods.

And LOL....I didn't even notice the date of the post. I must need more sleep, too!

FXOjafar

One rule. Do not be afraid of fat! Fat doesn't make you fat the same way that eating broccoli doesn't make you green.
Too much sugar/carbs make you fat because excess carbs inhibit your body's ability to burn fat for fuel. The carbs are used instead and the fat just gets stored.

If you want to lose weight, eat less carbs and avoid sugar filled, over processed low fat foods.

I get around 70% of my calories from fat and look where it's getting me! The lightest I've been in 10 years in fact!

No. Not true. Just like fat doesn't make you fat..sugar doesn't make you fat. It's when you eat at an excess above your maintenance that makes you fat.

So, can you explain why the world has become fatter with more diabetes, heart disease etc... despite nearly 40 years of recommending cutting calories, eating low fat and exercising more?

Ever heard the phrase, "A calorie is not a calorie"?

What you eat has more of an effect than how much you eat.

lemonsnowdrop

One rule. Do not be afraid of fat! Fat doesn't make you fat the same way that eating broccoli doesn't make you green.
Too much sugar/carbs make you fat because excess carbs inhibit your body's ability to burn fat for fuel. The carbs are used instead and the fat just gets stored.

If you want to lose weight, eat less carbs and avoid sugar filled, over processed low fat foods.

I get around 70% of my calories from fat and look where it's getting me! The lightest I've been in 10 years in fact!

No. Not true. Just like fat doesn't make you fat..sugar doesn't make you fat. It's when you eat at an excess above your maintenance that makes you fat.

So, can you explain why the world has become fatter with more diabetes, heart disease etc... despite nearly 40 years of recommending cutting calories, eating low fat and exercising more?

Ever heard the phrase, "A calorie is not a calorie"?

What you eat has more of an effect than how much you eat.

Because people nowadays are too inclined to sit on their butts for work, internet, television, etc. I don't think that food is to blame, but instead a far less active lifestyle. Less activity equals less calories burned...you get the idea.

And as far as weight loss goes, a calorie is most certainly a calorie.

tennisdude2004

So lets say that I still stay in my caloric range of 1400 calories a day but yet I eat things that are high in fat for a few days, but doing so will this hinder me from loosing weight?

I am pretty good about staying between 1300-1500 calories a day but sometimes I still eat cookies, some chips etc that are higher in fat.

Please advise

Try and steer clear of trans fats.

Apart from that IMO scoff on.

ETA Damn you Em1158 - Peter cushion would turn in his grave if he new you were summonsing this from the grave.

EHisCDN

One rule. Do not be afraid of fat! Fat doesn't make you fat the same way that eating broccoli doesn't make you green.
Too much sugar/carbs make you fat because excess carbs inhibit your body's ability to burn fat for fuel. The carbs are used instead and the fat just gets stored.

If you want to lose weight, eat less carbs and avoid sugar filled, over processed low fat foods.

I get around 70% of my calories from fat and look where it's getting me! The lightest I've been in 10 years in fact!

No. Not true. Just like fat doesn't make you fat..sugar doesn't make you fat. It's when you eat at an excess above your maintenance that makes you fat.

So, can you explain why the world has become fatter with more diabetes, heart disease etc... despite nearly 40 years of recommending cutting calories, eating low fat and exercising more?

Ever heard the phrase, "A calorie is not a calorie"?

What you eat has more of an effect than how much you eat.

There may be "40 years of recommending cutting calories, eating low fat and exercising more" but have people actually followed that recommendation? Obviously not or less people would be overweight.

Have you ever heard the phrase "A calories is a calorie...is a calorie"? It's a unit of measure.
How much you eat has more of an effect on weight loss than what you eat. If you ate 500 calories over maintenance in broccoli it would cause you to gain as much fat [weight] as eating 500 calories over maintenance of fast food or sugar or fatty foods etc.

Barring some sort of metabolic disorder or special medical condition it really is calories in < calories out for fat loss.

FXOjafar

One rule. Do not be afraid of fat! Fat doesn't make you fat the same way that eating broccoli doesn't make you green.
Too much sugar/carbs make you fat because excess carbs inhibit your body's ability to burn fat for fuel. The carbs are used instead and the fat just gets stored.

If you want to lose weight, eat less carbs and avoid sugar filled, over processed low fat foods.

I get around 70% of my calories from fat and look where it's getting me! The lightest I've been in 10 years in fact!

No. Not true. Just like fat doesn't make you fat..sugar doesn't make you fat. It's when you eat at an excess above your maintenance that makes you fat.

So, can you explain why the world has become fatter with more diabetes, heart disease etc... despite nearly 40 years of recommending cutting calories, eating low fat and exercising more?

Ever heard the phrase, "A calorie is not a calorie"?

What you eat has more of an effect than how much you eat.

Because people nowadays are too inclined to sit on their butts for work, internet, television, etc. I don't think that food is to blame, but instead a far less active lifestyle. Less activity equals less calories burned...you get the idea.

And as far as weight loss goes, a calorie is most certainly a calorie.

Sorry. A calorie is not a calorie otherwise the days when I go bushwalking would result in massive losses. Yeh, a calorie is a calorie but it depends on how your body uses that calorie based on the source.

A calorie from carbs may not be used for energy but could most likely be deposited into a fat cell as an excess thus you gain weight, whereas a calorie from fat would be used for energy more readily and not deposited in reserves.

You can lose weight while sitting on your butt all day. You just need to eat the right things.

Rocbola

A calorie from carbs may not be used for energy but could most likely be deposited into a fat cell as an excess thus you gain weight, whereas a calorie from fat would be used for energy more readily and not deposited in reserves.

A calorie from carbohydrates may be stored as energy, but it is often stored as glycogen, not fat.

nikkihk

Sorry. A calorie is not a calorie otherwise the days when I go bushwalking would result in massive losses. Yeh, a calorie is a calorie but it depends on how your body uses that calorie based on the source.

A calorie from carbs may not be used for energy but could most likely be deposited into a fat cell as an excess thus you gain weight, whereas a calorie from fat would be used for energy more readily and not deposited in reserves.

You can lose weight while sitting on your butt all day. You just need to eat the right things.

This kinda doesn't make sense. How does, "A calorie is not a calorie otherwise the days when I go bushwalking would result in massive losses." support your argument? You could eat 2000 cals in twinkies or 2000 cals in protein and pasta over maintenance... you will still need to burn 2000 calories to not have it needing to be stored..

"A calorie from carbs may not be used for energy but could most likely be deposited into a fat cell" Access of calories from any source are eventually stored as fat if not used. Carbs, Protein, Fats... etc.

"You can lose weight while sitting on your butt all day. You just need to eat the right things." No. You can lose weight eating Twinkies and drinking Pop as long as you are in deficit. Granted that's a horrible idea? But there is no magical balance trick to losing weight... if you eat less then your body needs to function (ie. 500 cals under maintenance) it WILL begin to use it's reserves (aka fat) no matter what combination of foods is you are eating. It's mathematically impossible save for people with medical anomalies to gain weight without eating access calories. If your body needs the energy from a doughnut, it's not going to magically store it as fat because it discovered it was a doughnut when it really wanted broccoli.

Case in point. I've lost over 20 pounds in the last two and a half months... I eat blue cheese dressing twice daily, french fries twice a week, hamburgers, fast food, etc. My fat calories are WAY over the red line compared to Carbs and Protein... yet, I'm still in a steady 1 to 2 pound a week loss and I'm not restricting any foods. OH and I don't exercise right now... and I work a desk job. Yep.

EllieB_5

I have a diet high in fat, but it's animal fat not processed garbage. I also do not consume refined sugar or a lot of starchy carbs, but some ppl do fine on a diet that is fairly balanced across all macros, consuming animal fat or vegetable fat only (not vegetable oils, but the fats in whole vegetables, let's be clear), and they seem to lose weight just fine. Just lose the garbage you put in your mouth to lose the garbage packed around your body. As far as I can tell, that and genetics are the only reasons ppl's wildly varying diets/macro levels work for them. Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

trogalicious

Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

I don't cut "processed junk" out. I'm not saying that it's a junk food based lifestyle I lead, but it's also not one of having a fear of food.

I also don't eat garbage. that's gross.

EllieB_5

Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

I don't cut "processed junk" out. I'm not saying that it's a junk food based lifestyle I lead, but it's also not one of having a fear of food.

I also don't eat garbage. that's gross.

I wish I could see your diary. I would LOVE to be able to see how I might possibly lose weight eating chips and cookies and chocolate and Twizzlers to my hearts content. Maybe not the Twizzlers and chocolate, but everything else that I could possibly stuff into my face.

trogalicious

Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

I don't cut "processed junk" out. I'm not saying that it's a junk food based lifestyle I lead, but it's also not one of having a fear of food.

I also don't eat garbage. that's gross.

I wish I could see your diary. I would LOVE to be able to see how I might possibly lose weight eating chips and cookies and chocolate and Twizzlers to my hearts content. Maybe not the Twizzlers and chocolate, but everything else that I could possibly stuff into my face.

who said to my hearts content? that's the issue. If you can control it and make it fit, it isn't going to destroy you.

You lose weight by being at a deficit. You lose weight by the amount of food that goes in. You can certainly feel better/healthier by WHAT you put into your body.

That's why I might have a chicken breast, an avocado, and maybe a big handful of carrots for lunch a few days... then a big-*kitten* burger with bacon and cheese on it on others.

It isn't deprivation. It isn't cutting it out.

....it's finding a balance.

ETA: That's even more reason my diary is closed. What works for me isn't gonna work for you in terms of calories/macro goals. I have actually had complete strangers PM me about "hey, I ate what you did and didn't lose" then get butthurt about how I shouldn't ever give advice. I can't make them understand it, so that's why I keep it closed.

EllieB_5

Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

I don't cut "processed junk" out. I'm not saying that it's a junk food based lifestyle I lead, but it's also not one of having a fear of food.

I also don't eat garbage. that's gross.

I wish I could see your diary. I would LOVE to be able to see how I might possibly lose weight eating chips and cookies and chocolate and Twizzlers to my hearts content. Maybe not the Twizzlers and chocolate, but everything else that I could possibly stuff into my face.

who said to my hearts content? that's the issue. If you can control it and make it fit, it isn't going to destroy you.

You lose weight by being at a deficit. You lose weight by the amount of food that goes in. You can certainly feel better/healthier by WHAT you put into your body.

That's why I might have a chicken breast, an avocado, and maybe a big handful of carrots for lunch a few days... then a big-*kitten* burger with bacon and cheese on it on others.

It isn't deprivation. It isn't cutting it out.

....it's finding a balance.

This may be where our disagreement comes in. I do not consider hamburger, bacon, nor cheese to be junk food. Cheese is my main staple, as is beef in all it's glorious forms, and although we haven't had bacon in awhile... well, I think we got sick of it as we were having it nearly everyday. Yes, while I was losing that 20 pounds. My idea of processed junk is the chips and cookies and other processed garbage. And I am pleased you do not eat that garbage either.

chelseafxx

I love fat it's my favorite thing to eat-- om nom Although I must add it is mostly from nuts and oils. I love coconut oil, olive oil, and every single nut! Scratch that I've never had a pistachio!! :O

trogalicious

Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

I don't cut "processed junk" out. I'm not saying that it's a junk food based lifestyle I lead, but it's also not one of having a fear of food.

I also don't eat garbage. that's gross.

I wish I could see your diary. I would LOVE to be able to see how I might possibly lose weight eating chips and cookies and chocolate and Twizzlers to my hearts content. Maybe not the Twizzlers and chocolate, but everything else that I could possibly stuff into my face.

who said to my hearts content? that's the issue. If you can control it and make it fit, it isn't going to destroy you.

You lose weight by being at a deficit. You lose weight by the amount of food that goes in. You can certainly feel better/healthier by WHAT you put into your body.

That's why I might have a chicken breast, an avocado, and maybe a big handful of carrots for lunch a few days... then a big-*kitten* burger with bacon and cheese on it on others.

It isn't deprivation. It isn't cutting it out.

....it's finding a balance.

This may be where our disagreement comes in. I do not consider hamburger, bacon, nor cheese to be junk food. Cheese is my main staple, as is beef in all it's glorious forms, and although we haven't had bacon in awhile... well, I think we got sick of it as we were having it nearly everyday. Yes, while I was losing that 20 pounds. My idea of processed junk is the chips and cookies and other processed garbage. And I am pleased you do not eat that garbage either.

I had a bag of chips last night. A few cookies yesterday afternoon, and 44 oz of beer last night. I went over on my goal yesterday. It isn't the end of my world. I don't feel bad for it today.

Processed food isn't the end of the spectrum for me. Would I have felt different today if I hadn't gone over? Maybe..

...but sometimes, cheese puffs and beer just work.

thesupremeforce

Fat is fat. Isn't that why you're here.

Don't fool yourself, you will absolutely slow yourself way down. Give yourself breaks, we need those, but a full blown retreat - not so much. But then I guess it depends what you really want to get out of myfitnesspal.

Just trying to keep it real . . . more for me than you! "It's Now or Never".

All you really did was do a fantastic job of being 100% wrong. Eating fat doesn't make you fat. Even a "high fat" diet won't do it provided you're eating at an overall deficit. It sounds like you have a long way to go toward educating yourself. Good luck to you.

PikaKnight

Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

I don't cut "processed junk" out. I'm not saying that it's a junk food based lifestyle I lead, but it's also not one of having a fear of food.

I also don't eat garbage. that's gross.

I wish I could see your diary. I would LOVE to be able to see how I might possibly lose weight eating chips and cookies and chocolate and Twizzlers to my hearts content. Maybe not the Twizzlers and chocolate, but everything else that I could possibly stuff into my face.

Why do people assume that those who still eat whatever they want do that in mass quantities or just those items they deem "junk".

It's called moderation.

EllieB_5

I had a bag of chips last night. A few cookies yesterday afternoon, and 44 oz of beer last night. I went over on my goal yesterday. It isn't the end of my world. I don't feel bad for it today.

Processed food isn't the end of the spectrum for me. Would I have felt different today if I hadn't gone over? Maybe..

...but sometimes, cheese puffs and beer just work.

Wow. Now you're reading way too far into what I was saying. I never said anything about going over goals, actually, neither did OP. Nor have I said anything about feeling guilty when one does go over goals. Going over one's goals...Ii can't find where that entered into our back-and-forth until you brought it up. OP wanted to know if eating a diet high in fats would hinder her weight loss. I gave my opinion, as have others, including yourself. Going in to new territory with your "end of the world" and "don't feel bad" statements tells me you may simply want a fight in order to prove your opinion correct. Well guess what, two different ppl can have two different opinions and both can be correct. But if you must have only one correct opinion, then fine, your opinion is the correct opinion.

trogalicious

I had a bag of chips last night. A few cookies yesterday afternoon, and 44 oz of beer last night. I went over on my goal yesterday. It isn't the end of my world. I don't feel bad for it today.

Processed food isn't the end of the spectrum for me. Would I have felt different today if I hadn't gone over? Maybe..

...but sometimes, cheese puffs and beer just work.

Wow. Now you're reading way too far into what I was saying. I never said anything about going over goals, actually, neither did OP. Nor have I said anything about feeling guilty when one does go over goals. Going over one's goals...Ii can't find where that entered into our back-and-forth until you brought it up. OP wanted to know if eating a diet high in fats would hinder her weight loss. I gave my opinion, as have others, including yourself. Going in to new territory with your "end of the world" and "don't feel bad" statements tells me you may simply want a fight in order to prove your opinion correct. Well guess what, two different ppl can have two different opinions and both can be correct. But if you must have only one correct opinion, then fine, your opinion is the correct opinion.

I'm not trying to fight. You said you'd love to meet someone who loses and still eats what you determined to be junk.

So, hi.

I've lost a ton of weight. I eat what you call junk. I'm healthier than I have ever been in my entire life. I don't demonize food or think that "processed garbage" is going to hurt me or anyone else.

Nice to meet you.

Now, just take note that it can be done. It's called moderation.

PikaKnight

I had a bag of chips last night. A few cookies yesterday afternoon, and 44 oz of beer last night. I went over on my goal yesterday. It isn't the end of my world. I don't feel bad for it today.

Processed food isn't the end of the spectrum for me. Would I have felt different today if I hadn't gone over? Maybe..

...but sometimes, cheese puffs and beer just work.

Wow. Now you're reading way too far into what I was saying. I never said anything about going over goals, actually, neither did OP. Nor have I said anything about feeling guilty when one does go over goals. Going over one's goals...Ii can't find where that entered into our back-and-forth until you brought it up. OP wanted to know if eating a diet high in fats would hinder her weight loss. I gave my opinion, as have others, including yourself. Going in to new territory with your "end of the world" and "don't feel bad" statements tells me you may simply want a fight in order to prove your opinion correct. Well guess what, two different ppl can have two different opinions and both can be correct. But if you must have only one correct opinion, then fine, your opinion is the correct opinion.

Not trying to "start a fight" but I didn't take anything Trog said as the "One true diet to rule them all" attitude that you are inferring.

To be honest, it seemed you were the one wanting to start a fight by exaggerating and passively belittling his statement of that he "didn't cut "processed junk" out" when you wanted to see his diary and suggested his diary consisted of only candy and chocolate.

likitisplit

From the research i've done and my personal experience, Sodium and simple sugars will "clog up" your metabolism. Dousing the fires of fat burning ability if you will. You want to stoke up that "fire" and you can do that with fiber, protien and complex carbs. The more of the sugar and salt you cut out, the quicker you will see results. I'm sure there is basic truth to the "just burn more calories than you eat" rule, However if sugar and salt are slowing your metabolism then it stands to reason that it is going to be like pulling teeth to drop pounds, not to mention you will be fighting cravings (or not fighting them) constantly. If you can get off of processed foods, for 2 weeks, I promise you will stop craving them! That's my 2 cents anyway! I wish you the best!

According to my research, carbon and sodium are #1 and #3 on the list of the six most prevalent chemicals in living organisms.

likitisplit

Genetics aside, the common thread between all these different diets working for different ppl is that a vast majority of the processed junk is cut out.

Unless I've not met the weight losers on a junk food diet. In which case, hook a sista up

I don't cut "processed junk" out. I'm not saying that it's a junk food based lifestyle I lead, but it's also not one of having a fear of food.

I also don't eat garbage. that's gross.

I wish I could see your diary. I would LOVE to be able to see how I might possibly lose weight eating chips and cookies and chocolate and Twizzlers to my hearts content. Maybe not the Twizzlers and chocolate, but everything else that I could possibly stuff into my face.

who said to my hearts content? that's the issue. If you can control it and make it fit, it isn't going to destroy you.

You lose weight by being at a deficit. You lose weight by the amount of food that goes in. You can certainly feel better/healthier by WHAT you put into your body.

That's why I might have a chicken breast, an avocado, and maybe a big handful of carrots for lunch a few days... then a big-*kitten* burger with bacon and cheese on it on others.

It isn't deprivation. It isn't cutting it out.

....it's finding a balance.

This may be where our disagreement comes in. I do not consider hamburger, bacon, nor cheese to be junk food. Cheese is my main staple, as is beef in all it's glorious forms, and although we haven't had bacon in awhile... well, I think we got sick of it as we were having it nearly everyday. Yes, while I was losing that 20 pounds. My idea of processed junk is the chips and cookies and other processed garbage. And I am pleased you do not eat that garbage either.

I eat chips and cookies and twizzlers...in moderation...as part of a balanced diet. Check my diary.