carbs over fat??
landrytanya
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which way do I go?? Peanut butter- regular peanut butter that I use has 190 calories, 16 g of fat, 7g in carbs, and 7 g in protein. Where the reduced fat peanut butter has 180 calories, 12 g of fat, 15g in carbs and 7g in protein. Do you choose fat over carbs or carbs over fat. The one with less carbs is only 10 more calories. How do you decide?? There are other food that are this same way, wheat over white bread is another one I'm having trouble with. Yeah wheat is healthier but the ones i've been using have more calories over white.
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Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)0
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I would chose the fat over the carbs, because the fat you are eating is good fat & fat is good for your brain since your brain is mostly made up of fat. A lot of low fat foods are higher in carbohydrates because they add in all these weird ingredients like high fructose corn syrup so it loses alot of it's natural tendencies as a food. I would stick with regular fat things & stay away from low fat but just eat them in moderation.0
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Remember it's more than just calories. There are benefits for having real foods, even when the fat content is higher. If I had the choice of fat or carbs, I'd choose fat. Most of the reduced fat foods have added sugars to make them taste more palatable. Plus, they are processed.
As for the bread thing, there are more nutrients in whole wheat bread - note WHOLE WHEAT.
I always choose real over fake and messed with foods. Regardless of calorie content.0 -
I think it really only matters if your on a low carb diet. What you should look for is the one with the least added sugar. Go for something that is all natural. If you dont like the consistency of the totally all natural ones, Skippy makes a natural peanut butter that is very similar to regular, but it doesnt have the high fructose corn syrup, and it doesnt need to be stirred. Its what I get for my kids and they love it. I get the stop & shop all natural for myself, because the ingredients are literally just peanuts and salt, nothing else added or artificial.0
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Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)
Please research before making the under-handed comments. Dr Atkins never said carbs were evil.
As a matter of fact he said brown and colorful, never white. Same thing as you said.
Geeesh, educate yourself before speaking on something you obviously know nothering about.
To the OP, I always choose Fat over carbs because for ME, it is healthier.
Fat will keep you fuller longer and satisfied without wanting the whole munch thing..................carbs can and will make you hungrier faster because they are burned and metabolized faster which is caused from the whole insulin response.
Do what is best for YOURSELF.0 -
I'd chose the carbs because I work out really hard and need the energy... Plus my trainer has me on a high carb intake that I very rarely meet..0
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i personally choose fat over carbs. My main focus is to keep carbs and sugars down. It works best for me and always has. Fat stabilizes your blood sugar levels and keeps you satisfied longer.0
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Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)0
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Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)
Ummm, if carbs are such a high energy food, then explain WHY most people want to take a nap after eating a carb heavy meal???
No one says oh I ate these carbs I have so much energy I want to go run 3 miles. I always hear everyone say "I need a nap" after a high carb meal.0 -
Well in this case I'd guess that the carbs are added sugars. Healthy natural fats are better for you than added sugars most of the time.0
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Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)
And that is the opposite of the situation that the OP posed. It was said SUGAR and WHITE bread - both are SIMPLE sugars. Not the complex ones found in veggies and whole grains.
Plus, Dr. Atkins never said carbs are evil. He wanted real ones from natural sources.0 -
Bump.
When it comes to peanut butter I only ever eat "Just Peanuts" peanut butter made from Kraft or Blue Menu or any of the organic varieties simply because the peanut butter you use has added sugars and salts and preservatives, which all add up to extra calories and carbs.
President's Choice Blue Menu only contains 100 calories, 8 grams of fat, 3 grams of carbs, 1 gram of sugar and 3 grams of protein. Ditto for Kraft All Natural Peanut Butter.
Because the peanut butter I use contains only 3 grams of carbs, my issue is not about carbs but instead, where I am in my fat values for the day?
Likewise, in your case, where are you in your daily values? Daily values often help dictate whether we eat certain foods as fats, proteins, simple sugars or complex carbs.
There is a time and a place for simple sugars, preferably right after an intense 60+ minutes aerobic activity. Otherwise, complex carbs are your best route for daily grazing.0 -
Personally I opt for lower carbs however, after comparing all the different types of peanut butters out there (low fat, imitation pb etc.) I still opted for the regular plain old creamy nothing special one because of all the additives and chemicals in the others.I don't eat white bread and I have switched to Sunbeam Lite Whole Wheat recently because of the calorie count. Honestly, if I could find a decent low carb wheat bread, I'd use it and not worry about the calories. For me I do better with higher protein. It depends on your body type.
Try it for one week - lower your carbs (but not too low maybe 30-40% of your total calories) and see how you feel and how it fits into your life. Then the next week, lower your fat and see how you feel. Whichever you pick will have to fit into your lifestyle or it won't work. However, if you find you FEEL better on one and it's not really fitting into your lifestyle, it might benefit you to MAKE IT FIT. Your health should not be sacrificed for the sake of convenience.
In the end only you can really decide what you want to focus on based on what you're body is telling you. Personally I eat regular plain old creamy peanutbutter simply because of all the crap they put in the others. In the end, I'd rather have one tablespoon of something natural than 2 tablespoons of chemicals.0 -
Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)
Ummm, if carbs are such a high energy food, then explain WHY most people want to take a nap after eating a carb heavy meal???
No one says oh I ate these carbs I have so much energy I want to go run 3 miles. I always hear everyone say "I need a nap" after a high carb meal.
Sleepiness after any heavy meal is caused by the blood rushing to your stomach to aid in digestion. It's theoretically possible that a carb heavy meal might require more blood to transport the energy away faster and show that result to a slightly greater degree.
However, I've never heard a marathon running eating a steak or even a glass of milk during his/her run as a way of increasing his/her performance.0 -
AMEN to that, but then again, I'm a protein body type.Ummm, if carbs are such a high energy food, then explain WHY most people want to take a nap after eating a carb heavy meal???
No one says oh I ate these carbs I have so much energy I want to go run 3 miles. I always hear everyone say "I need a nap" after a high carb meal.
I also read in one of these replies that someone eats carbs AFTER a workout. I thought trainers recommended carbs BEFORE a workout and PROTEIN after? This way you are more likely to burn those carbs before they get stored as fat.0 -
Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)
Ummm, if carbs are such a high energy food, then explain WHY most people want to take a nap after eating a carb heavy meal???
No one says oh I ate these carbs I have so much energy I want to go run 3 miles. I always hear everyone say "I need a nap" after a high carb meal.
Sleepiness after any heavy meal is caused by the blood rushing to your stomach to aid in digestion. It's theoretically possible that a carb heavy meal might require more blood to transport the energy away faster and show that result to a slightly greater degree.
However, I've never heard a marathon running eating a steak or even a glass of milk during his/her run as a way of increasing his/her performance.
A heavy meal is a different circumstance than Grokette said - she said carb heavy - which I take to mean something like pasta for your meal, one that is high on the carb count. I feel like cr@p after a carb heavy meal...run down and sluggish. Veggies and meat for me keep me going.
And these extreme situations are silly, we can all give some anecdotal advice. No one is going to say a marathon runner is low carb for the runs. We all know that glucose is what is used in the body as the main energy production currency. (And for the sake of covering the other sources, side chains of peptides...tails of fatty acids...anything with a carbon bound to hydrogen...)
The discussion of high performance is totally different from the majority of folk on here. Frequent athletics cause you to have different dietary needs. So, as others have said, work on what's best for you in your situation.0 -
AMEN to that, but then again, I'm a protein body type.
I also read in one of these replies that someone eats carbs AFTER a workout. I thought trainers recommended carbs BEFORE a workout and PROTEIN after? This way you are more likely to burn those carbs before they get stored as fat.
*thumbs up*
Basically what I've been told is the carbs before to fuel the work out. Protein after to rebuild the muscle that was damaged.0 -
I've been buying
Smucker's Natural Peanut Butter.
Ingredients: Peanuts, Salt
http://www.smuckers.com/products/ProductDetail.aspx?groupId=2&categoryId=11&flavorId=65
They have organic and without salt options as well. If you're doing a low carb diet I'd choose the fat.0 -
I've heard of trainers advocating carbs after a work in addition to protein, but not in place of it. The theory is that you want the protein to be used to repair your muscle, not broken down into glycogen and stored in your muscle, so a small amount of carbs after the work out lets your body break those down for glycogen storage and lets the protein be used for rebuilding.0
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I eat my share of carbs but they are portioned for each meal at a certain time of day. And eating carbs doesn't mean eating a pound of pasta. There are plenty of veggies that are high in carbs that are good for you and your body needs. They actually help you if you are working out and not trying to limit yourself to 1200 calories a day. And after my workout i always have a protein shake and maybe a high protein Greek yogurt(maybe). But what works for one is not for all.0
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hadn't heard that but it makes sense....I've heard of trainers advocating carbs after a work in addition to protein, but not in place of it. The theory is that you want the protein to be used to repair your muscle, not broken down into glycogen and stored in your muscle, so a small amount of carbs after the work out lets your body break those down for glycogen storage and lets the protein be used for rebuilding.0 -
I eat my share of carbs but they are portioned for each meal at a certain time of day. And eating carbs doesn't mean eating a pound of pasta. There are plenty of veggies that are high in carbs that are good for you and your body needs. They actually help you if you are working out and not trying to limit yourself to 1200 calories a day. And after my workout i always have a protein shake and maybe a high protein Greek yogurt(maybe). But what works for one is not for all.
That sounds much more normal to me than your other post! And much like what I had been doing when I was really into working out.
I'm just reiterating what you said about veggies. You can get carbs from veggies, not just grains. I think a chunk of people don't realize that carbs aren't just about bread and pastas.0 -
Carbs are NOT the evil thing that Atkins says they are. Carbs are a high energy food. Complex carbs should be choosen over simple carbs. (wheat bread over white)
Ummm, if carbs are such a high energy food, then explain WHY most people want to take a nap after eating a carb heavy meal???
No one says oh I ate these carbs I have so much energy I want to go run 3 miles. I always hear everyone say "I need a nap" after a high carb meal.
Sleepiness after any heavy meal is caused by the blood rushing to your stomach to aid in digestion. It's theoretically possible that a carb heavy meal might require more blood to transport the energy away faster and show that result to a slightly greater degree.
However, I've never heard a marathon running eating a steak or even a glass of milk during his/her run as a way of increasing his/her performance.
A heavy meal is a different circumstance than Grokette said - she said carb heavy - which I take to mean something like pasta for your meal, one that is high on the carb count. I feel like cr@p after a carb heavy meal...run down and sluggish. Veggies and meat for me keep me going.
And these extreme situations are silly, we can all give some anecdotal advice. No one is going to say a marathon runner is low carb for the runs. We all know that glucose is what is used in the body as the main energy production currency. (And for the sake of covering the other sources, side chains of peptides...tails of fatty acids...anything with a carbon bound to hydrogen...)
The discussion of high performance is totally different from the majority of folk on here. Frequent athletics cause you to have different dietary needs. So, as others have said, work on what's best for you in your situation.
I know several Athletes that are marathon runners and body builders and eat a very low carb, high fat eating plan and are able to complete runs in record times with great energy levels.
Fats and protein do the same thing as carbs as animal proteins contain glycogen also.0 -
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I'd go with natural peanut butter. Regular peanut butter has extra added sugar, I think the reduced fat does as well. The fats in peanut butter are healthy fats. They are good for you(in moderation) , and will help with fat loss.0
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Most people don't do their research or consult with a professional. They do what the next person is doing and think that'll work for them. The key is to do your research and get in tune with your body. Then realize that this is a journey of health and not one that can be reached over night. I like you and your passion over this topic....Can I friend you?I eat my share of carbs but they are portioned for each meal at a certain time of day. And eating carbs doesn't mean eating a pound of pasta. There are plenty of veggies that are high in carbs that are good for you and your body needs. They actually help you if you are working out and not trying to limit yourself to 1200 calories a day. And after my workout i always have a protein shake and maybe a high protein Greek yogurt(maybe). But what works for one is not for all.
That sounds much more normal to me than your other post! And much like what I had been doing when I was really into working out.
I'm just reiterating what you said about veggies. You can get carbs from veggies, not just grains. I think a chunk of people don't realize that carbs aren't just about bread and pastas.0 -
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and to think it all came from someone tying to choose between peanut butters LOL0 -
Feels a little tense in here.
Agreed. Simple answer is everything in moderation, I think.0 -
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and to think it all came from someone trying to choose between peanut butters LOL
I agree!0 -
If you want to see this debate and get a little more info in your decision.
Go find a thread in the Food & Nutrition called, ""Paleo diet" - 70% fat??? "
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/218594--paleo-diet-70-fat
Although it does get uncivil in the thread at points, lots of info on the subject.
My take: A little extra fat never killed anybody. Carbs from sugars are not the best thing and I try to avoid them.0
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