INFO FROM A PERSONAL TRAINER/NUTRITIONIST/MODEL

alana1966

Should I shred the pounds first and then start eating protein?

I have the same question - I know that a person needs to lose the body fat, first and foremost, but also that more muscle means better metabolism. It almost seems like a catch 22 situation - I guess it's more about patience?? You have to work at BOTH to see results, and not to expect anything overnight....

mrscates

Im NOT a personal trainer or nutritionist yet. This came from my PT and Nutritionist. If you'd like to contact him, message me!

I saw this posted before, and I have a question for you. I started training with a personal trainer at my gym, and have been working with her for nearly a year. In that time I have steadily lost body fat (nearly 15%) and she says that I gain lean muscle mass . . . at this point nearly 25lbs up in lean muscle mass with my steady decrease. Does that mean I have gained muscle along the way? I was wondering from a few of the statements in your quotes. She measures using calipers and tape measure . . . I started dropping my body fat from 45% to 35% with very little change in weight, and now that I have figured out how to eat better I have been dropping weight. Once I started dropping weight I "gained one lb of lean muscle mass" one month, and "dropped a lb of lean muscle mass" the next month. I am a very athletic build and she says I am so much stronger than a lot of her female clients so she loves to throw heavy weight at me and I love it. Just wondering if the early stats were accurate in the gains of my lean muscle. Thanks.

mrscates

FYI--not claiming to be an 'expert', what I am doing is copy and pasting info from MY personal trainer and sports nutritionist. He is also someone who owns and operates PFTA schools in SA, TX and Waco, TX and has won Mr. Fitness his 1st go roung. I felt this information was VERY helpful and if you can't handle the truth then continue to do what you are doing and you will always get what you got. IF you want bettter results take this to heart! If you want more details please message me and I will send you his contact info.

jolyned

I have a quick question... I go to the gym 5 days a week on my lunch time. I've only started less than 2 weeks ago. They have a Keiser circuit which are a whole room of fitness machines that target pretty much every muscle.

I've been doing 20 minutes of rowing to start and then I do 20 minutes of the circuit. My gym has a little ticker which helps you move along the circuit properly. 45 seconds of working out and then 15 seconds to switch up. Am I doing good or should I change something? I just don't want to be putting all this time and sweat into this if I'm not doing something right.

Also, I got the Jillian Michaels 30 day shred DVD and I've been doing that 20 minute workout every night once I put my son to bed. Am I on the right track?

Any advice?

shaunshaikh

I'm not taking offense to the tone. I already knew all of the things she posted from my own research and reading this board religiously. I just think a lot of times the message gets lost in the delivery. She spent a lot more energy berating the ignorant rather than giving them the tools to succeed. That's my problem.

End6ame

Should I shred the pounds first and then start eating protein?

I have the same question - I know that a person needs to lose the body fat, first and foremost, but also that more muscle means better metabolism. It almost seems like a catch 22 situation - I guess it's more about patience?? You have to work at BOTH to see results, and not to expect anything overnight....

It depends on the person. If you are obese, I would recommend focusing on losing the fat first, then focus on strength gains. In general these are conflicting goals and only one should be your focus, at a time, however they can happen simultaneously to an extent, however, both will be slower than if you just focused on one. Results will also greatly depend upon your exercise routine. Not all strength routines will build strength/muscle as fast as others.

shaunshaikh

For example, stroutman81 is a popular personal trainer on this board who posts regularly in addition to his blog. Through all of his educational posts and his question and answer sessions he has never been condescending or mean. People have learned a ton from him and he has empowered them with the tools to succeed in their weight (fat) loss.

shaunshaikh

Should I shred the pounds first and then start eating protein?

I have the same question - I know that a person needs to lose the body fat, first and foremost, but also that more muscle means better metabolism. It almost seems like a catch 22 situation - I guess it's more about patience?? You have to work at BOTH to see results, and not to expect anything overnight....

It depends on the person. If you are obese, I would recommend focusing on losing the fat first, then focus on strength gains. In general these are conflicting goals and only one should be your focus, at a time, however they can happen simultaneously to an extent, however, both will be slower than if you just focused on one. Results will also greatly depend upon your exercise routine. Not all strength routines will build strength/muscle as fast as others.

You should be working on strength training during your weight loss. You may not gain muscle during the process, due to the fact that it is nearly impossible to gain significant muscle while working with a calorie deficit. However, you will have a better chance to maintain the muscle that you have and keep your metabolism humming. When you lose 5 pounds after a month, you want to know that 4 of that was fat and not the other way around.

ThePinkSheep

The condescending tone wasn't really needed.

If it had been Jillian Michaels saying that here on the boards, no one would be "offended".

Besides, read the first part. It is addressing female clients she never mentioned the Message Boards......

shaunshaikh

I don't see why it matters who she is addressing or who it is delivering the message.

End6ame

Should I shred the pounds first and then start eating protein?

I have the same question - I know that a person needs to lose the body fat, first and foremost, but also that more muscle means better metabolism. It almost seems like a catch 22 situation - I guess it's more about patience?? You have to work at BOTH to see results, and not to expect anything overnight....

It depends on the person. If you are obese, I would recommend focusing on losing the fat first, then focus on strength gains. In general these are conflicting goals and only one should be your focus, at a time, however they can happen simultaneously to an extent, however, both will be slower than if you just focused on one. Results will also greatly depend upon your exercise routine. Not all strength routines will build strength/muscle as fast as others.

You should be working on strength training during your weight loss. You may not gain muscle during the process, due to the fact that it is nearly impossible to gain significant muscle while working with a calorie deficit. However, you will have a better chance to maintain the muscle that you have and keep your metabolism humming. When you lose 5 pounds after a month, you want to know that 4 of that was fat and not the other way around.

Agreed.

Sorry I didn't mean to complete forsake strength training while working on fat loss.

jend114

Thanks!

End6ame

I have a quick question... I go to the gym 5 days a week on my lunch time. I've only started less than 2 weeks ago. They have a Keiser circuit which are a whole room of fitness machines that target pretty much every muscle.

I've been doing 20 minutes of rowing to start and then I do 20 minutes of the circuit. My gym has a little ticker which helps you move along the circuit properly. 45 seconds of working out and then 15 seconds to switch up. Am I doing good or should I change something? I just don't want to be putting all this time and sweat into this if I'm not doing something right.

Also, I got the Jillian Michaels 30 day shred DVD and I've been doing that 20 minute workout every night once I put my son to bed. Am I on the right track?

Any advice?

My advice will get criticism, but oh well.

Isolation machines are relatively pointless because in the real-world you don’t use your muscles in isolation, they all interact together. For this reason, and others, I recommend barbell training using exercises like squats, deadlifts, bench press, etc…, it is more difficult to learn, but once you learn, results are faster and better.

Use the info here. http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/

The program is targeted towards men, but both men’s and women’s bodies function the same way, so it will work for women too, in fact my wife does it.

mrscates

The condescending tone wasn't really needed.
YOU AREN'T LYING HERE! LOL. BESIDES THIS WAS A GUY WHO WROTE IT AND ME JUST SENDING THE INFO OUT--TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT PEEPS!

If it had been Jillian Michaels saying that here on the boards, no one would be "offended".

Besides, read the first part. It is addressing female clients she never mentioned the Message Boards......

mrscates

The condescending tone wasn't really needed.
YOU AREN'T LYING HERE! LOL. BESIDES THIS WAS A GUY WHO WROTE IT AND ME JUST SENDING THE INFO OUT--TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT PEEPS!

If it had been Jillian Michaels saying that here on the boards, no one would be "offended".

Besides, read the first part. It is addressing female clients she never mentioned the Message Boards......

I AM COMMENTING ABOUT THE JM's PART, LOL

Naomi91

I'm not taking offense to the tone. I already knew all of the things she posted from my own research and reading this board religiously. I just think a lot of times the message gets lost in the delivery. She spent a lot more energy berating the ignorant rather than giving them the tools to succeed. That's my problem.

Some times people need a good eye opener. Often when said nicely and not with a harsh tone people do not even listen. IMO

alana1966

FYI--not claiming to be an 'expert', what I am doing is copy and pasting info from MY personal trainer and sports nutritionist. He is also someone who owns and operates PFTA schools in SA, TX and Waco, TX and has won Mr. Fitness his 1st go roung. I felt this information was VERY helpful and if you can't handle the truth then continue to do what you are doing and you will always get what you got. IF you want bettter results take this to heart! If you want more details please message me and I will send you his contact info.

I did not mean to imply that you or your source was not an expert, only that most of us here do not claim to be experts (more sharing things we have read or experienced), although there are some that have expertise in their fields of fitness or nutrition, and we are all happy to read what you (and they) have to say, and DO take it to heart. I think the "all you geniuses out there" comment may have set the tone for your post, unfortunately. Nonetheless, it WAS informative.

shaunshaikh

Often when said harshly and not with a nice tone people do not even listen. IMO

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Positively_Me

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End6ame

For women that thing that weight lifting will make you “bulky”; this is Canadian Olympic weight lifter Marilou Dozois-prevost performing what looks to be about a 145lb snatch (her record is 185lb) at 105lb body weight in the 2008 Bejing Olympics. She is 23 here and has been lifting since she was 13.

diverchic73

The condescending tone wasn't really needed.

Seriously? Taking offense? :indifferent:

Haha couldnt agree with you more.

Seriously people if this offends you then I dont see how you can handle real life xD haha

Yep, what I thought. Some people obviously look for offense where they can find it... others look at the information in the message and appreciate it.

I know I've got a wicked six pack and muscle definition... I've just got to get rid of the insulation that is hiding it from view.

Naomi91

Often when said harshly and not with a nice tone people do not even listen. IMO

FIFY

haha thanks!

people are different. Some people love Jillian Michaels because she is b****y and in your face. They love hard rude truth to be pushed.

Others want people to talk to them calmly and carry them through everything.

Hard to do both at the same time. So eh different approaches work for different people.

I like a bit of both. I love in your face stuff, but the poster you mentioned is actually on of my favorites :] He posts so much information and facts! :]

just my 2 cents haha

mkskippy24

Thanks for the info!

myofibril

You see the key ingredient in our Basil Metabolic Rate is our Fat Free Mass (which muscle takes part in).

What exactly is Basil Metabolic Rate when it's at home? Is it the same as Basal Metabolic Rate or is it a friend of Tumeric Effect of Food and the Thermic Exercise Oregano?

And hooooow exactly did the OP manage to sneak the phrase "loose weight" passed this board rather than "lose weight" without someone loosing (see what I did there?) their frickin' mind and setting up a separate thread about spelling? Now where is that dead horse that needs flogging?

On the other hand the OP made a good point. Maybe the delivery wasn't to everyone's taste but lots of women could do with bearing it in mind if transforming their physique is their main goal.

NikkisNewStart

Wowwwww.... There is 1 poster here that realllllly needs to find something more constructive to do with her time than whine about the original message (to the tune of 3 or more follow up whiny complaints)... seriously? That's so sad.

I, for one, appreciate the original message wholeheartedly. It is truth, plain and simple. We have no problems spitting the truth about cancer to smokers or drinking and driving to alcoholics... but when it comes to weight related issues everyone gets their feelings all hurt. Give me a break!

Detach yourself from the fat. It doesn't define you, right? It surely doesn't define me.... so when someone writes a truthful message about decreasing fat so muscle can show- I'm not going to sit in a corner and cry or respond with a hundred messages complaining. I'm going to listen... because it is the truth and I know following it brings results. Period. I'm here to be healthy and improve my physique. The fat is an "it" to me and is NOT me... so I'm not going to be "offended" when someone speaks of "it."

jolyned

Thanks, I'll look into it. I'm willing to try anything and work really hard to get to my goal.

Naomi91

Wowwwww.... There is 1 poster here that realllllly needs to find something more constructive to do with her time than whine about the original message (to the tune of 3 or more follow up whiny complaints)... seriously? That's so sad.

I, for one, appreciate the original message wholeheartedly. It is truth, plain and simple. We have no problems spitting the truth about cancer to smokers or drinking and driving to alcoholics... but when it comes to weight related issues everyone gets their feelings all hurt. Give me a break!

Detach yourself from the fat. It doesn't define you, right? It surely doesn't define me.... so when someone writes a truthful message about decreasing fat so muscle can show- I'm not going to sit in a corner and cry or respond with a hundred messages complaining. I'm going to listen... because it is the truth and I know following it brings results. Period. I'm here to be healthy and improve my physique. The fat is an "it" to me and is NOT me... so I'm not going to be "offended" when someone speaks of "it."

Hehe my hero :flowerforyou: love the way you think!

mrscates

love my 2 ladies...always in my corner!

ashleyb1031

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jacquejl

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