plateau/no Carbs/14 day cutter experiment

Ambrogio1

4theking

Nice transformation bro. Respect
Do you know your BF?

myofibril

I feel great, I feel light. Low carbs I can tell is working arlready for me. Different things different people. This experiement is 40 carbs or less for 14 days.

Sounds like you have experienced a metabolic shift. It is no doubt true that some people perform better running off fatty acids than glucose. Elevated ketones can help reduce hunger and cravings.

However, I generally believe like 4theking that a SKD is overrated on a physiological (as opposed to psychological level) for anyone who is seriously looking at body recomp (in other words changing the ratio of muscle to fat that they have in their bodies.) For your average, sedentary, non active guy or gal it might work quite well. You will drop a lot of weight initially but that will be mostly water (and some fat.) However, because there is a clear difference on the scale and on some degree the way you look this then promotes stronger dietary adherence. In other words it encourages you to stick in a calorie deficit (the real marker) for longer meaning a greater loss overall. It works because you believe it will work.

Now, TKDs or CKDs on the other hand combine the best of both worlds if you are cutting. Basically, I would either incorporate the suggestions made by 4theking or have periodic carb up days every 3 or 4 days. You can't keep your glycogen levels depleted for a long term basis without undermining any heavy weight training you are doing. Now, I am talking purely about efficiency terms here. You will definitely still see results doing what you are currently but not as much if you tweak it a bit.

If you want a very good overview of this area read Lyle McDonald's "The Ketogenic Diet." Start off on the right foot and you will get much further if you are committed to this way of eating.

Good luck mate.

4theking

4theking

Nice transformation bro. Respect
Do you know your BF?

Thank you! Really not sure on bodyfat. Still want to lose another 12-15lbs. Losing weekly. Trying to get really lean.

Ambrogio1

What are your stats currently?

You seem to have a good recipe. Have you lost any stregnth alot the way? Gotten stronger?
The part of my transformation that Ihave loved is I seem to be getting stronger as I get leaner and my overall appearance has changed as well. Sometimes the good ole mirror is better then the scale.

Can't wait to weigh in monday I have a feeling a 7 might be the middle of the first and third numbers. 17*. I haven't seen that in a decade I bet

4theking

What are your stats currently?

You seem to have a good recipe. Have you lost any stregnth alot the way? Gotten stronger?
The part of my transformation that Ihave loved is I seem to be getting stronger as I get leaner and my overall appearance has changed as well. Sometimes the good ole mirror is better then the scale.

Can't wait to weigh in monday I have a feeling a 7 might be the middle of the first and third numbers. 17*. I haven't seen that in a decade I bet

6' 204lbs. I weigh in tomorrow and expect to be down another pound. I have gotten stronger every workout on at least one lift five months straight.

Keep up the good work and good luck hitting your goal!

Ambrogio1

Thanks for the link to Martin. That absorbed my morning! I love this guy
I can't stop reading about his philosiphies

Care to share any info on him?

pcteck2

Well, this is all very interesting. I would like to follow your progress. Good luck!

Ambrogio1

Went to Baltimore to see my yanks. Beautiful town and Stadium. I wish it was crappy out.

I went there with 0 carbs.
I went to dinner had rockfish and lump crab and 5 waters. I then went to the stadium and had boogs meat. WOW. all I can say is wow. Meat awesome, I think at this pt I had my first carb, about 2-3 tablespoons of bbq sauce. This is where it becomes a challenge. WhenmI am home i my element this stuff is easy. But go out in to the real world and I feel and look like an alien. The look on the waiters face when I mentioned carb when asking opinions was classic, and then your fellow dinner mates are like o god heres this guy...............Just funnny. Then starbucks for the ride home........I really enjoyed the tasty coffee but I couldn't help think, did they really use heavy whippping cream? Was it cream? Did I just have 14 carbs did I just have njo carbs??????

lol

All in all I think I did well, I def ate under my cals and I think I was under 40 carbs. But I didn't cook nor did I really know if I was under either. I hate fat america!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel solid today. Smashed a 3 whole eggs, 3 slices turkey bacon and 2 slices of cheese. I normally don't eat at home because I go to the gym in the morning and my first meal is a shake but I had a big breafast. I'll hit gym later in the day to get some extra cals.

MF

Marlinedorcinvil

You've been doing well. Keep it up

Ambrogio1

I am still doing no carb, I got side tracked with reading about IF life. OMG

I am now doing Intermitten Fasting with no carbs. To tell you the truth I Am doign well on it but I Don't like not having my fruits and veggies. I lost almost 2 lbs since doing it and I look forward to a weigh in sunday to see what I end up at. Sunday I believe I will break it and eat fruit and veggies all day long, or maybe just a controlled amount per say.

Thanks for checking in

Ambrogio1

Still doing no carbs but havce shifted a ton of energy and time to IF. Intermitten Fasting
I love it and I am doing it with no carbs

I will be under 180 by Monday so this two week no carbs did what it needed to do.
I was going to complete sunday but not sure now with the IF program if I want to. I am having a bbq sunday and I would rather fast til 12 build up that calorie buffer and have at it. Little worried if I do that I will overload on carbs and hav a negative impact. Or I can fast start eating @ 12 and just have some little carbs, maybe 2 burgers with buns and then stay under my calorie intake for day.

Who knows but I can't wait for the no carb phase to be over.
Do I need to slow introduce carbs back into my life? I am under 40 a day now, maybe 50 on worst days. Come back up slowly?

Overall experience is I needed the change up and I am glad I did it but I would have a hard time convincning myself it is the right diet to lose weight. Cal in Cal out is the wayto go and good carbs are good for you.

MF

Ambrogio1

Overall No Carbs was what it was. It kinda sucked, lost some water weight and dropped 2-3 lbs. Overall I didn't love it nor will I ever do it again. Hard to believe depriving yourself fruits and veggies would be good. I get concept, but I don't like it.

Also I began with IF in the middle of the no carbs so I guess I didnt give it a fair shot, near impossible to do at the same time. Just not funny.

First day of carbs and I noticed last night I ate 23 carbs before I ingested dinner, wierd because I think placebo played some effext with my mind. For the two weeks prior when I ate carbs that low I didn't feel that good. I had some fruits and veggies when I had carbs yesterday so they weren't race carbs found in other foods.

O well

My overall opinion
NO CARBS SUX AND ITS not fun

Intermitten Fasting, now that is fun. I love it

MF

EuroDriver

Done low carb diet and i think ur carbs r gonna be too high for much weight loss... Ye u gotta watch all ur macros... Cals included, eat 30-40 carbs a day, looots of fat and protein... Also buy ketostix at pharmacy to see if ur actuly in ketosis and at what stage o ketosis and if you need to drop more carbs. Also on a low carb diet it takes ur body about a week to get into ketosis then another week to get used to low carbs so suggest doing low carb for minimum 1 full month for full benefit therwise ur waisting time...

stormieweather

I tried low carb once. I limited carbs to less than 20g per day. I could not get into ketosis, however. Yes, I had sticks to test my urine. After 10 days, I was ready to puke at the thought of the next fatty, slimy thing I had to eat. I desperately wanted some crunchy salad, a slice of toast, big plate of veggies, some cereal. Anything except more fat and protein. Just not for me, I guess.

I've had more luck with staying the course, no cheating and changing up my exercise regimen.

Good luck to you!!

jessicazanebell

I am confused on what exactly ketosis is?

jessicazanebell

I am confused on what exactly ketosis is?

LisaKyle11

I try to stay at 20 g of carbs as well. It definately keeps me in ketosis. And the amount of carbs that a person needs to get into ketosis depends on the person. Make sure to drink lots of water as well. It helps to avoid any kidney stones from braking down the amount of protein that you will be eating.
Good luck. And keep sharing

Hi-

Kind of want to bring this thread back into play....

For those who have attempted the very low carb (20-50 carbs per day), how did you feel? For the past few days, I have been eating low carb on purpose (while trying to raise my protein as well) and to be honest, I feel terrible. Very sluggish and hazy. My carbs have been around 40-60 the past few days. Also, are you counting 'net' carbs (carbs subtracting fiber grams)?

Would love to hear other's experiences!

Thanks much!

Ambrogio1

Do Low carbs for 1-2 days to mess with your body then have a huge carb up and just continue to count calories and exercise. Avoiding fruits and veggies for me makes little sense. OR maybe just come up a bit with your carbs. Maybe try 60.
Also try having your carbs early in the day for engergy. Choose a nice slow digesting carb